# Ramira - So as Not to Hijack the ATMB Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 12, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476 "2015-10-12T20:36:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/1 "2015-10-12T20:36:07Z")

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In these [two](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18766387&postcount=180) [posts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18766769&postcount=197), you misspelled “Nuh-uh!!!”

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/2 "2015-10-12T22:26:19Z")

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It’s not like you were offering cites to support your posts either. You asserted your opinions. Ramira asserted hers. I don’t see how you feel you got the better of the exchange.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/3 "2015-10-12T22:54:20Z")

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Shouldn’t this weaksauce be in the Pit ?

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**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/4 "2015-10-12T23:18:43Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> In these [two](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18766387&postcount=180) [posts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18766769&postcount=197), you misspelled “Nuh-uh!!!”
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

In my experience, 95% of Ramira’s posts can be boiled down to “You’re wrong because you’re a bigot and you’re a bigot because you’re wrong.” You don’t tend to lose anything by just skipping over them.

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**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/5 "2015-10-13T01:17:20Z")

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> [@Tithonus](#):
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> In my experience, 95% of Ramira’s posts can be boiled down to “You’re wrong because you’re a bigot and you’re a bigot because you’re wrong.” You don’t tend to lose anything by just skipping over them.

I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed that.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/6 "2015-10-13T01:40:10Z")

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Yeah, I don’t get why **Shodan** nearly always thinks he got the best in an exchange. He’s a great snarker, and he can be funny at times, but in actual arguments with substance he usually loses. Okay, so he’s given me a challenge me a few times–but only because he says things so unexpected that I have to twist my brain in knots figuring out what he’s saying. It just takes work to unpack his assumptions.

And I think the “you’re a bigot” arguments from **Ramira** are usually on point–it’s just really hard to make sense out of them due to the language barrier. She’s hard to parse since she pretty much avoids ESL vocabulary, instead using what I assume are cognates to her own speech. But she does notice when someone has a history of making anti-Islamic posts and points that out.

Her argument about being wrong is that she has experience with Islam and the Middle East, and knows what their really like, and those Islamophobes have no fucking clue. No, not a lot of substance, but not begging the question, either.

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**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/7 "2015-10-13T02:38:56Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> In these [two](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18766387&postcount=180) [posts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18766769&postcount=197), you misspelled “Nuh-uh!!!”
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Fucking BORING!!!

(But mathematically precise.)

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/8 "2015-10-13T03:21:17Z")

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Good thing you got that off your chest. Real firestorm like that, it must have been eating you up inside. \<damn rolleyes emoticon\>

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/9 "2015-10-13T07:32:04Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> In these [two](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18766387&postcount=180) [posts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18766769&postcount=197), you misspelled “Nuh-uh!!!”
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

oh very good. It is almost 13 years at this board and my first time getting pitted, and it is because you have feelings hurt because I point out the boring mathematical pattern of your posting in the atmb and the replies you make…

it is not my fault that your algorithm for replies to the atb is so boring and mechanical, always consisting of the standard component of something perceived as the left suppressing something you perceive as the right or more the reactionary and how the board is biased and how the part you perceive as the left has no arguments…

that in your imagination all conversations follow a pattern around an ideological position might be interesting but it is not the subject of that conversation, as I had already pointed it out in the first link.

(of course the idea that there was any running out of of the argument of substance in the science against the positions of the pedant is something quite ridiculous and can only arise if either the reader has not the intelligence to understand the arguments against, or has such a strong ideological tendency and bias that they filter out and bloc anything that is not meeting the cherished ideas they think are necessary to that ideological tendency. it is hard to say with great regards which it is for your case)

> [@Tithonus](#):
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> In my experience, 95% of Ramira’s posts can be boiled down to “You’re wrong because you’re a bigot and you’re a bigot because you’re wrong.” You don’t tend to lose anything by just skipping over them.

We can thank you for the excellent wisdom from the great experience since august of this year. I am sure you have added much with such capacity in reading.

But it strange that this case is of the 5% then since I did not say anything about bigotry, only the boring robotic mathematical pattern of the shodan in the atb. perhaps you can join him in the mathematically predictable responding to subjects.

> [@ddsun](#):
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> Good thing you got that off your chest. Real firestorm like that, it must have been eating you up inside. \<damn rolleyes emoticon\>

yes it must have, it was oppressing his political tendency, like he finds always is the case on this board and must be always raised in great chagrin in the atb forum, it highlights the great burden he bears with regards.

disdain,

ramira

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/10 "2015-10-13T11:05:23Z")

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“Is there someone else up there we can talk to?”

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/11 "2015-10-13T12:13:13Z")

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**Ramira** - it’s spelled “no u”.

You’re welcome.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/12 "2015-10-13T12:21:06Z")

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yes we are aware of the limits of your algorithm of replies and signatures, but it is boring after so many years.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/13 "2015-10-13T12:25:49Z")

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Hey! A post from Shodan that doesn’t devolve into “You’re all liberal and are out to get me. It’s unfair!”

Congratulations! I for one didn’t think you could do it.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/14 "2015-10-13T12:32:03Z")

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> [@Tithonus](#):
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> In my experience, 95% of Ramira’s posts can be boiled down to “You’re wrong because you’re a bigot and you’re a bigot because you’re wrong.” You don’t tend to lose anything by just skipping over them.

In fairness to **Ramira** , you \*are \*a bigot.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/15 "2015-10-13T12:38:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Ramira]  
yes we are aware of the limits of your algorithm of replies and signatures, but it is boring after so many years.  
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I don’t think you’re getting it. Repeating yourself over and over is not a good way to complain about someone repeating himself over and over.

Your posts are reminiscent of the Nigerian e-mail scam. Someone with a functional but not complete grasp of the language, but all of them with the same schtick. Jazz it up a little. Take your game to the next level.

See [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=771956) for what you want to avoid. You need to accuse me of having unnatural relations with farm animals, then I will point out that to honor the anniversary of your first date you had “Property of the US Navy” tattooed on your asshole, then you could reply that I hadn’t had sex since my brother-in-law went to prison, and we could have a real conversation.

Can you try that?

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/16 "2015-10-13T12:45:24Z")

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I get things very well, after all the years of the mathematical algorithm in your martyr complaints in the atb. you are an ideological robot and seem to lack very much in the intelligence to understand the pedant discussion that you complain about or simply are too ideological tribalistic to have actual thinking… so you repeat your formulaic complaints and accusations about the political bias of the other political tribe on every occasion that arises in the atb.

then try out your typical formulaic maybe clever the first time you did it responses.

it is boring.

ironical though a complaint about repetition, coming from someone like you.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/17 "2015-10-13T12:52:54Z")

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Well, I tried.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/18 "2015-10-13T12:58:38Z")

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Yes the usual algorithm for your responses to redirect.  
it remains a boring pattern.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/19 "2015-10-13T13:02:20Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Well, I tried.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Perhaps you should try a new algorithm for your formulaic mathematics.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2015, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ramira-so-as-not-to-hijack-the-atmb-thread/734476/20 "2015-10-13T13:09:00Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Perhaps you should try a new algorithm for your formulaic mathematics.

I think[Bill Gates will give her $5000](http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/nothing/microsoft.asp) if she repeats herself enough times.

Regards,  
Shodan

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