# Rammstein: "Amerika" I can't get enough of this song. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 29, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157 "2017-06-29T19:23:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/1 "2017-06-29T19:23:50Z")
I rarely do this, but I feel compelled to share this video with my Doper friends [Amerika](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr8ljRgcJNM) This is the same Rammsteing that had the hit: “Du Hast” in the late 90s. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/2 "2017-06-29T19:48:30Z")
It’s Wunderbar! I, too, love that song. And it’s so patriotic! You can tell that nice German man really loves our country ---
**Author:** ![Weisshund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba8739/32.png) [@Weisshund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weisshund)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/3 "2017-06-29T20:27:24Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > It’s Wunderbar! > > I, too, love that song. And it’s so patriotic! You can tell that nice German man really loves our country He likes amerikan people just fine, just not some of the politics and the need to amerikanize everything. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/4 "2017-06-29T20:33:19Z")
I like sonne better; that’s some crazy shit right there. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/5 "2017-06-29T20:46:39Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#): > > I like sonne better; that’s some crazy shit right there. No idea what they are talking about. Cool (official) video though. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/6 "2017-06-29T20:52:20Z")
[I like the more specific song, Massachusetts, by Ylvis.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvUMV1N7eGM) ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/7 "2017-06-29T21:52:02Z")
I call shenanigans. They’re not really on the moon. They’re not even wearing helmets. More fake news from the Germans. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/8 "2017-06-30T00:28:00Z")
> [@Weisshund](#): > > He likes amerikan people just fine, just not some of the politics and the need to amerikanize everything. I don’t know. It’s one thing when people criticize the flaws in their own country. But when people from one country criticize the flaws in another country, it can easily sound like bigotry. Imagine an American band writing a song about things that are wrong with Germany. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/9 "2017-06-30T00:54:16Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I don’t know. It’s one thing when people criticize the flaws in their own country. But when people from one country criticize the flaws in another country, it can easily sound like bigotry. > > Imagine an American band writing a song about things that are wrong with Germany. they’re not criticizing the flaws of American culture. They’re lamenting that these flaws seems to be our biggest and most vigorous export. mc ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/10 "2017-06-30T01:28:41Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > they’re not criticizing the flaws of American culture. They’re lamenting that these flaws seems to be our biggest and most vigorous export. How is that not a flaw? ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/11 "2017-06-30T02:05:11Z")
It’s not a bug; it’s a feature! ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/12 "2017-06-30T02:15:58Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > It’s not a bug; it’s a feature! Keep going, You’re almost there! mc ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/13 "2017-06-30T02:47:18Z")
Damn, I’d forgotten this video. Ausgezeichnet!! ---
**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/14 "2017-07-01T00:07:35Z")
My impression is that it wasn’t about any supposed flaws with America itself so much as it is being annoyed towards global monoculture. We all drink Coca-Cola, we all consume Disney media, etc. Because of the way history went, America became the dominant cultural power, but if somehow France had become the dominant global cultural power, I think the basic concept of the some would be the same, only the names and details would be different. I gotta say–I got linked to the “Sonne” video some time ago, I liked it enough to go through the rest–they make some damn good videos, and awesome stage productions. ---
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/15 "2017-07-01T00:24:03Z")
I love Rammstein. I don’t even know what to call their style of music. I just think of it as a really talented example of northern European heavy metal music but even that doesn’t seem quite right because they throw in a lot of showmanship as well. The closest American band I would compare them to is Guns N Roses during their Appetite for Destruction phase but even that isn’t very close. I couldn’t give a single shit about their politics or message. I just think they are really talented and would have made it much bigger if they were American rather than German ironically enough. ---
**Author:** ![dofe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ba0ec/32.png) [@dofe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dofe)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/16 "2017-07-01T06:42:35Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I don’t know. It’s one thing when people criticize the flaws in their own country. But when people from one country criticize the flaws in another country, it can easily sound like bigotry. > > Imagine an American band writing a song about things that are wrong with Germany. I’d agree with your stance if the countries in question were, say, Canada and Germany, with generally unilateral relationships. Germany’s relationship with America is different and far from unilateral in the sense that America has a disproportionate effect German politics and culture. This difference is most obvious in the fact that the US currently still has military bases in Germany, whereas the Germany has none in the US. This difference IMO gives a German band like Rammstein a reasonable basis to criticize American flaws.\* \*Sort of bolstering my point, the band was originally named Rammstein-Flugschau, after the [1988 Ramstein Air disaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramstein_air_show_disaster) that occurred at US Air Force’s Ramstein Air base. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/17 "2017-07-01T11:17:00Z")
> [@dofe](#): > > I’d agree with your stance if the countries in question were, say, Canada and Germany, with generally unilateral relationships. Germany’s relationship with America is different and far from unilateral in the sense that America has a disproportionate effect German politics and culture. This difference is most obvious in the fact that the US currently still has military bases in Germany, whereas the Germany has none in the US. This difference IMO gives a German band like Rammstein a reasonable basis to criticize American flaws.\* > > \*Sort of bolstering my point, the band was originally named Rammstein-Flugschau, after the [1988 Ramstein Air disaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramstein_air_show_disaster) that occurred at US Air Force’s Ramstein Air base. Two M’s - means ramming stone, or so they say:cool: ---
**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/18 "2017-07-01T12:26:53Z")
> [@Mr.Nylock](#): > > I like sonne better; that’s some crazy shit right there. Love that song! Crushed hard on snow white. ---
**Author:** ![Wakinyan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wakinyan/32/352_2.png) [@Wakinyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wakinyan)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/19 "2017-07-01T16:26:52Z")
Wunderbar. How about an old fashion pile on? I was thinking _I’m so bored with the USA_, but this one is much better. The contempt of the lead singer at “a certain tv show” in New York is phenomenal. – No, seriously, when I saw this on TV many many years ago I was blowned away: [- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be2pMMYNzQ8) PS. Americans, we love you. I have met many Americans and befriended a few, and have yet to meet a citizen of the USA I didn’t like. This is just fun and games, Coca Cola, bombs and Donald Trump. Not about people who happened to be born in the USA. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rammstein-amerika-i-cant-get-enough-of-this-song/790157/20 "2017-07-01T20:01:11Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > I call shenanigans. They’re not really on the moon. They’re not even wearing helmets. More fake news from the Germans. This. Totally took me out of the movie.