# Rams football is back, baybee! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 10, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rams-football-is-back-baybee/762303 "2016-08-10T02:25:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rams-football-is-back-baybee/762303/41 "2016-08-23T05:19:13Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Is this your first time being pregnant? How would I know if _anecdotes_ are false? You said you were tired of hearing how shitty LA fans were. I was asking if some of the evidence, given as proof, that said fans were indeed shitty was accurate. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rams-football-is-back-baybee/762303/42 "2016-08-23T08:08:34Z")
> [@RetroVertigo](#): > > You said you were tired of hearing how shitty LA fans were. I was asking if some of the evidence, given as proof, that said fans were indeed shitty was accurate. Bullshit. That’s belied by the fact that you asked if they were false rather than if they were true. You asked me to prove a negative. As for me, I haven’t seen it, but I only went to two Raider games, at the end of the 1993 season. That was the year they beat the Broncos in OT to get into the playoffs and then beat them again the very next week (at home) to go to Buffalo in the divisional round, where they got their asses handed to them. Jeff Hostetler brought them back from a 17-point deficit to win the first game, and no one got up and left at either game, not surprisingly. I got up and stood in a tunnel watching to see if they made the FG in OT before I ran my ass off to the ticket kiosk to buy the next week’s playoff tickets. And I got 'em, third in line. Btw, that first game sure looked packed to me, but it’s only listed at just under 67K attendance. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rams-football-is-back-baybee/762303/43 "2016-08-23T11:13:01Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > I wonder if those wiki numbers are actual attendance, or a soft fudge number. Until sometime in the early 2000’s NFL teams were free to publish whatever version of numbers they wanted to. Then the NFL specifically told teams to begin reporting “tickets sold” and nothing else. > > So, that means, for example, the Raiders could conceivably have had a game that they published a 50K attendance number, when the reality might have been 35K butts in seats. > [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > In service of what? Oh, right, what shitty fans L.A. residents are. Anybody else who doesn’t live here care to pipe up? > > Fuck it, believe whatever you want. You have no clue how sick and bloody tired I am of hearing that crap. I have literally been hearing it for decades. Wasn’t ragging on your teams at all, man. Don’t live there, but also don’t have any negative vibes towards LA fans of any type. Was just adding a little factual conversation about attendance numbers across all NFL cities. All NFL teams report sold, not attended. By the way, MLB and NBA does the same thing. Although I am not an NFL fan, I do know that LA has been screwed over by the league a few times. Hope this time it works out. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rams-football-is-back-baybee/762303/44 "2016-08-23T13:31:15Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Bullshit. That’s belied by the fact that you asked if they were false rather than if they were true. You asked me to prove a negative. No you’re right. Is it true that LA has shitty fans? 😃 I’m happy that a football fan, as yourself, has a team back in their market to root for. The whole process of lies from the owner and the NFL has left a bad taste in my mouth, and reminds me why I prefer college ball. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rams-football-is-back-baybee/762303/45 "2016-08-24T07:52:00Z")
It’s too bad they didn’t take this occasion to change their uniforms back to the ones I grew up on, the ones featuring blue and bright yellow. Their current unis are just so damn dingy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rams-football-is-back-baybee/762303.md?page=2)