# Rancid Priebus is a disgusting human being **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195 "2016-03-26T02:56:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/1 "2016-03-26T02:56:00Z")
Fraud. Abuse of elderly citizens. Mopery and dopery. Priebus should be subject to prosecution. [Image](http://imgur.com/IBkECB4) [Brief story](http://rebrn.com/re/the-republican-national-committee-sends-a-false-notice-of-delinq-2551758/) [How low can they go?](http://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2016/03/18/pokin-around-how-low-can-national-gop-go-delinquency-letter-actually-solicitation/81964822/) One Reddit poster said his mother received one of these, but didn’t want him to embarrass the GOP by posting it on social media. [Title 39, United States Code, Section 3001d](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/39/3001), makes it illegal to mail a solicitation in the form of an invoice, bill, or statement of account due unless it conspicuously bears a notice on its face that it is, in fact, merely a solicitation. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/2 "2016-03-26T03:59:10Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > [Image](http://imgur.com/IBkECB4) Oh, I was expecting a picture of Priebus himself. That would have been more than sufficient to prove your point. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/3 "2016-03-26T04:08:04Z")
I’ve seen images of those letters, and I’m not impressed. No words about “forfeiture” or “court action” or “flocks of lawyers picking apart your carcass”. Who’s gonna be frightened by that, little more than a courtesy call from the cable company! ---
**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/4 "2016-03-26T04:11:00Z")
Yeah, that’s awful. Any evidence that they’re targeting the elderly (against the law either way, but that would be, believably, even worse). Just horrible on so many levels. The tenth-of-one-percent, in _Citizens United_, practically got the right for their dollars to count as votes, but still feel the need to defraud other Republicans for pennies. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/5 "2016-03-26T04:14:56Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Fraud. Abuse of elderly citizens. Mopery and dopery. Priebus should be subject to prosecution. > > [Image](http://imgur.com/IBkECB4) > > [Brief story](http://rebrn.com/re/the-republican-national-committee-sends-a-false-notice-of-delinq-2551758/) > > [How low can they go?](http://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2016/03/18/pokin-around-how-low-can-national-gop-go-delinquency-letter-actually-solicitation/81964822/) > > One Reddit poster said his mother received one of these, but didn’t want him to embarrass the GOP by posting it on social media. > > [Title 39, United States Code, Section 3001d](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/39/3001), makes it illegal to mail a solicitation in the form of an invoice, bill, or statement of account due unless it conspicuously bears a notice on its face that it is, in fact, merely a solicitation. Let’s cut to the chase: ME: This doesn’t violate the law! THE REST OF YOU: it’s immoral! ME: But you quoted the law! THE REST OF YOU: Not everything that’s legal is moral. I suppose you’d be okay with slavery if it were legal. Now, carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveroptic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiveroptic/32/8257_2.png) [@Fiveroptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveroptic)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/6 "2016-03-26T04:50:46Z")
Be that as it may, Priebus is still a disgusting human being. Not that this is necessarily illegal, either… ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/7 "2016-03-26T05:13:52Z")
> [@Fiveroptic](#): > > Be that as it may, Priebus is still a disgusting human being. Not that this is necessarily illegal, either… Yeah, sure, he’s a Republican. On the SDMB, what other evidence is needed? Talk about a brave, controversial stance. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/8 "2016-03-26T05:42:41Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yeah, sure, he’s a Republican. On the SDMB, what other evidence is needed? > > Talk about a brave, controversial stance. No, some of us have a similar opinion of Bernie Sanders. Well, ok, not quite similar, but almost. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/9 "2016-03-26T07:09:57Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Let’s cut to the chase: > > ME: This doesn’t violate the law! > > THE REST OF YOU: it’s immoral! > > ME: But you quoted the law! > > THE REST OF YOU: Not everything that’s legal is moral. I suppose you’d be okay with slavery if it were legal. > > Now, carry on. FINALLY. After 16+ years at the Straight Dope, Bricker finally senses a pattern. Congratulations Bricker. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/10 "2016-03-26T07:17:33Z")
As for the law, IANAL, but I’ll copy and paste the legal link, adding emphasis: [The following stuff is not mailable, meaning you shouldn’t send things like this:] [INDENT]INDENT Matter otherwise legally acceptable in the mails which— (1)\*\* is in the form of, and reasonably could be interpreted or construed as, a bill, \*\*invoice, or statement of account due; but (2) constitutes, in fact, a solicitation for the order by the addressee of goods or services, or both; is nonmailable matter, shall not be carried or delivered by mail, and shall be disposed of as the Postal Service directs, **unless** such matter bears on its face, in conspicuous and legible type in contrast by typography, layout, or color with other printing on its face, in accordance with regulations which the Postal Service shall prescribe— (A) the following notice: “This is a solicitation for the order of goods or services, or both, and not a bill, invoice, or statement of account due. You are under no obligation to make any payments on account of this offer unless you accept this offer.”; or (B) in lieu thereof, a notice to the same effect in words which the Postal Service may prescribe. [/INDENT][/INDENT] I can’t tell from the images whether the RNC included the above notice or words to the effect that the Postal Service may prescribe. Either way it’s pretty sleazy. At any rate, I say that the law should be enforced. No special privileges for the RNC. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/11 "2016-03-26T07:56:54Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Let’s cut to the chase: > > ME: This doesn’t violate the law! > > THE REST OF YOU: it’s immoral! > > ME: But you quoted the law! > > THE REST OF YOU: Not everything that’s legal is moral. I suppose you’d be okay with slavery if it were legal. > > Now, carry on. You leave out the part where the discussion completely changes and no one is still discussing the law, but you continue to do so anyways. And then when someone else comes and explicitly discusses morality, you belittle them. Or the parts where you slip in little moral statements in your law stuff, and people take you to task over it–and you again try to refocus on the law. And then you play it up as them being bad instead of trying to understand the other person’s point of view. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/12 "2016-03-26T08:19:21Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > As for the law, IANAL, but I’ll copy and paste the legal link, adding emphasis: The part saying that it applies to mail that “constitutes, in fact, a solicitation for the order by the addressee of goods or services” seems more relevant. The RNC wasn’t asking people to buy goods or services, but to just send money with no strings attached. Still sleazy. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/13 "2016-03-26T12:15:23Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > You leave out the part where the discussion completely changes and no one is still discussing the law, but you continue to do so anyways. And then when someone else comes and explicitly discusses morality, you belittle them. Or the parts where you slip in little moral statements in your law stuff, and people take you to task over it–and you again try to refocus on the law. > > And then you play it up as them being bad instead of trying to understand the other person’s point of view. That happens. But it happens because no one who initially argued the legal question is willing to admit error, so the “part where the discussion completely changes” is an attempt to change the discussion without any admission of mistake. It’s good you’re willing to courageously stand up for people’s right to be dopey idiots without admitting that they were dopey idiots, because that’s a “point of view.” There aren’t too many people here with more motive to ensure those rights are protected. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/14 "2016-03-26T13:11:14Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yeah, sure, he’s a Republican. On the SDMB, what other evidence is needed? > > Talk about a brave, controversial stance. Republicans need to make a choice. Are they going to denounce things like this? And really denounce it, not just “We got caught, so issue an apology while we close down one office and re-open it in the room next door.” Or are Republicans going to say “This is what we do. And it’s not technically illegal so there’s no other concern.” Because if that’s the case, then Republicans deserve the scorn they receive. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/15 "2016-03-26T13:22:57Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yeah, sure, he’s a Republican. On the SDMB, what other evidence is needed? Well, there’s the link to the fundraising letter in the OP. What other evidence would you like to ignore? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/16 "2016-03-26T13:31:10Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Republicans need to make a choice. Are they going to denounce things like this? And really denounce it, not just “We got caught, so issue an apology while we close down one office and re-open it in the room next door.” > > Or are Republicans going to say “This is what we do. And it’s not technically illegal so there’s no other concern.” Because if that’s the case, then Republicans deserve the scorn they receive. > **[DNC uses Bernie Sanders to hit new low in sleazy, misleading grab for $$$$](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/5/1/1381733/-DNC-uses-Bernie-Sanders-to-hit-new-low-in-sleazy-misleading-request-for)** > > I was greeted by an email this morning that is copied below, exactly as it appeared in my inbox, including the blaring typography and the large chunk of white space towards the bottom, requiring ... But Democrats are fighting the good fight, and any minor missteps are completely understandable. ---
**Author:** ![txst16](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed655f/32.png) [@txst16](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/txst16)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/17 "2016-03-26T13:41:54Z")
Did you expect something more appropriate or proper. Its politics. Of course they want your money. Did Uncle Sam teach you nothing??? And republicans? More likely the Democrats set this up as a frame. They are always needing something to make them look good and intelligent. HAHAHAHA!! But really, its probably a prank committed by Bill Clinton. Trickster that guy! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/18 "2016-03-26T13:45:51Z")
> [@txst16](#): > > Did you expect something more appropriate or proper. Its politics. Of course they want your money. Did Uncle Sam teach you nothing??? And republicans? More likely the Democrats set this up as a frame. They are always needing something to make them look good and intelligent. HAHAHAHA!! But really, its probably a prank committed by Bill Clinton. Trickster that guy! Unlikely, since the enclosed envelope has the actual address of the RNC on it. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/19 "2016-03-26T14:17:54Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > [DNC uses Bernie Sanders to hit new low in sleazy, misleading grab for $$$$](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/5/1/1381733/-DNC-uses-Bernie-Sanders-to-hit-new-low-in-sleazy-misleading-request-for) > > But Democrats are fighting the good fight, and any minor missteps are completely understandable. So a letter, sent through the public mail and made to appear as a dunning notice, complete with scarlet letters, is the same as a private email? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/20 "2016-03-26T14:24:29Z")
**Bricker** cites _Daily Kos_? Take me now, Jesus, I’m ready, there are no more wonders to behold… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195.md?page=2)