# Rancid Priebus is a disgusting human being **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2016, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195 "2016-03-26T02:56:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/121 "2016-03-27T03:41:57Z")
Hell, Lee Atwater did that shit before breakfast, just warming up! ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/122 "2016-03-27T03:49:59Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > And it’s a lie, because we both know that the purpose of this thread was to attack Republicans, not just this scummy activity, Your antecedent is a bit vague, but I assume the “it” there is the hypothetical disclaimer? Because if so, that would not be a lie. For instance, my opinion (and I suspect many SDMB liberals hold similar views, but do not want to speak for anyone specifically) is that the current incarnation of the Republican party is particularly guilty of many kinds of scummy behavior. So if I started a thread saying “here’s something bad done by a particular Republican”, then yes, I would be specifically focusing on Republicans and not Democrats, because I would be trying to stress the meta-level point that Republicans are particularly prone to scumminess. But a single incident of similar Democratic scumminess would neither surprise me nor disprove my point. Nor, for that matter, would a similar incident of Democratic scumminess that had been met only be the proverbial deafening silence. It’s a perfectly intellectually consistent position to believe that Republicans deserve particular criticism without believing that Democrats are faultless saints. In fact, I’d argue that that’s the ONLY reasonable position to hold, although I’m sure you disagree. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/123 "2016-03-27T04:52:30Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Because we are empathic human beings. > > You are not an empathic human being. > > And I’m not confused. You ARE confused, if you think that feelings triumph over rational thought in public discourse. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/124 "2016-03-27T04:57:32Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Well, all of us except the vaguely sociopathic D’anconia, that is? Look who doesn’t know what words actually mean. Disagreeing with you on political issues doesn’t make one “vaguely sociopathic”, by any definition. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/125 "2016-03-27T05:06:19Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > First of all. > > AGAIN. > > It’s not _tu quoque_. > > Tu quoque is a logical fallacy in which the argument is made that X is bad, and then supposedly refuted by pointing out that the rhetor himself does X, so therefore X is not bad. > > [Cite.](http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem-tu-quoque.html) Where were you three weeks ago when I was defending the purity of the term “begging the question”? _\_ > [@](#): > > Otherwise, why not say that members of political parties that do these kinds of things need to denounce them? Why not say that there are no special privileges for political mailings? Okay. Political mailings should not have a privileged status with respect to this requirement of the law forbidding the misleading application of dunning notice signifiers to solicitation mailings. Nor should charitable foundations or trade associations. If the law currently contains those carve-outs, I call for it to be amended to eliminate them. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/126 "2016-03-27T05:11:24Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Look who doesn’t know what words actually mean. Disagreeing with you on political issues doesn’t make one “vaguely sociopathic”, by any definition. Not when couched in the general phraseology of _\<“disagreeing with a particular individual on political issues”\>_; no, it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/127 "2016-03-27T05:13:20Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Okay. Political mailings should not have a privileged status with respect to this requirement of the law forbidding the misleading application of dunning notice signifiers to solicitation mailings. Nor should charitable foundations or trade associations. If the law currently contains those carve-outs, I call for it to be amended to eliminate them. There is a much simpler solution. Pay your bills on time, every month, in full, and you’ll never receive a dunning notice. If you do receive a fake one 40 years later, you’ll likely know it, before you even open the envelope. Easy peasy. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/128 "2016-03-27T05:24:24Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > And it’s a lie, because we both know that the purpose of this thread was to attack Republicans, not just this scummy activity, You’re free to initiate threads with the sole purpose of attacking Democrats, you know. And if the people who object to your coming in and shitting all over this kind come in shit all over yours, I’ll have your back. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/129 "2016-03-27T05:25:50Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Where were you three weeks ago when I was defending the purity of the term “begging the question”? The begs the question of why you needed him. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/130 "2016-03-27T05:27:08Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > You’re free to initiate threads with the sole purpose of attacking Democrats, you know. And if the people who object to your coming in and shitting all over this kind come in shit all over yours, I’ll have your back. It’s the Pit. You can kindly get the fuck over yourself. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/131 "2016-03-27T05:30:45Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > When was the last time a high-ranking Democrat got Pitted, on this board? Well, **foolsguinea** is Pitting the Democratic frontrunner all the time.\* Hillary counts as a high-ranking Deemocrat. \*the phrase “all the time” is being used colloquially above, and is not intended to be takken literally. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/132 "2016-03-27T05:42:17Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > The begs the question of why you needed him. That’s it. You’re on the list. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/133 "2016-03-27T06:04:09Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Both of these, as well as the tone of the surrounding posts, suggest that the scummy behavior issue rests with Republicans. > > Otherwise, why not say that members of political parties that do these kinds of things need to denounce them? Why not say that there are no special privileges for political mailings? ## Because “Special privileges” is a social conservative hot-button phrase that I thought I would use amusingly/ironically. In terms of whether the law was broken, I found some better images here: [http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/03/15/republicans-stoop-to-new-low-as-they-use-fake-past-due-notice-to-con-gullible-voters-images/](http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/03/15/republicans-stoop-to-new-low-as-they-use-fake-past-due-notice-to-con-gullible-voters-images/) No disclaimer in those images, fwiw. But Lord Feldon correctly points out that the letter is soliciting a donation and not an, “order by the addressee of goods or services, or both”. So Priebus appears to have gotten off on a technicality. > [@mhendo](#): > > If you can’t detect a significant moral difference between those two things, either you’re not as smart as i’ve always given you credit for, or you’re more dishonest than i’ve ever given you credit for. BRICKER YOU MUST CHOOSE. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/134 "2016-03-27T06:48:04Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Do you agree that the thread specifically being about the GOP invites the inference that it’s only the GOP that is guilty? Does [this](http://io9.gizmodo.com/murder-is-legal-and-torture-is-mandatory-because-gods-1761496886) review of a really bad movie invite the inference that all other movies are really good? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/135 "2016-03-27T07:00:56Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > That’s the truth. **Bricker** , nobody is stopping you from starting a Pit thread …but for some reason you’d rather just use it as an excuse than actually report on any specific misdeeds. Got me to thinking, can we do it as, like, a gift? Start a thread about “The Latest SDMB Liberal Hypocrisy and Persecution of Conservatives” as a special thread for **Bricker** to vent spleen? Sort of one-stop shopping for all your liberal hypocrisy needs? I mean, there you are, thinking to yourself about how you may not be up to date with the latest lib-hyp news and the most recent offense to his dignity…well, there you go! Don’t have to search through various threads, its all _right there_! I know its a custom that an OP start a thread and establish its paradigm, but is that actually a rule? I would do it, but I’ve still got ragged **tomndebb** scars that haven’t fully healed, so maybe somebody else? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/136 "2016-03-27T11:33:49Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Got me to thinking, can we do it as, like, a gift? Start a thread about “The Latest SDMB Liberal Hypocrisy and Persecution of Conservatives” as a special thread for **Bricker** to vent spleen? There is the Stupid Liberal Idea thread that **Clothahump** seems to have given up on. Most of the contributions have been by the Board lefties. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/137 "2016-03-27T15:16:15Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > There is a much simpler solution. Pay your bills on time, every month, in full, and you’ll never receive a dunning notice. > > If you do receive a fake one 40 years later, you’ll likely know it, before you even open the envelope. > > Easy peasy. Wow you’re an out-of-touch insensitive ass. Humans are imperfect. Humans who have failed, or who aren’t great at things, or who have been overstressed, or who are losing a bit of their mental acuity as they age, or who are just kinda dumb don’t forfeit the right to the protection of laws. Nor should they. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/138 "2016-03-27T15:49:24Z")
I’m continually amazed that people who are shocked and disgusted when someone uses force or violence to steal somebody’s money are much more understanding if you _outsmart_ your victim. If they are our people, we protect them, if they are not our people, who’s people are they? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/139 "2016-03-27T16:44:45Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > If you can’t detect a significant moral difference between those two things, either you’re not as smart as i’ve always given you credit for, or you’re more dishonest than i’ve ever given you credit for. No, what it is is that Bricker lacks a moral compass, despite his claims otherwise. He is completely amoral, interested only that the minutiae of the law are satisfied, as long as his client wins. If necessary he resorts to the basest pettifoggery. He is not a good man, but he might be a successful lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195/140 "2016-03-27T17:14:35Z")
Bricker, in post 7,YOU make the remark about the Republicans as a group. That was the FIRST “implication” that this was Republicans vs Democrats. You brought up that implication, and in the remarks you cited as “clear implications” in post 38 were post 10, and post 14. YOU posted in post 5 and post 7, making it clear that you thought this was a case of the Republicans getting slapped around when the Democrats were just as bad. In fact. Post 14 was in DIRECT RESPONSE (quoted it and everything) to your comment : “Yeah, sure, he’s a Republican. On the SDMB, what other evidence is needed?” Again, you said that in post 7. So prior to your remark, what was the clear implication that this was NOT just about the specific activity that was explicitly pitted in the OP? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rancid-priebus-is-a-disgusting-human-being/750195.md?page=8)