# Rand Paul And Fauci **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 20, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905 "2021-07-20T17:41:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/162 "2021-10-18T02:23:11Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > We lost valuable time in the use of non medical grade masks for general use. Which is almost entirely what we ended up using in the fulfillment of mask mandates. If I remember correctly the death rate was doubling every 3 days. Not much when the numbers are low but it ramps up quickly. Early use of non-N95 masks could have made a profound difference in the early stages of the disease. You lost three to four weeks, a time in which we were in lockdown and didn’t even need masks. Meanwhile, let’s get back to Rand Paul who said as recently as a August _2021:_ > But Paul, who caught COVID-19 last year and has consistently refused to wear a mask in public, said in this week’s video that people should ignore the CDC’s policies on masks (despite plenty of [evidence that masks work](https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/07/23/masks-covid-19-science-behind-how-face-coverings-work/8062401002/)). > > “No one should follow the CDC’s anti-science mask mandates,” he said as he criticized President Joe Biden’s pandemic policies. “And if you want to shut down federal agencies again, some of which aren’t even back to work yet, I will stop every bill coming through the Senate with an amendment to cut their funding if they don’t come back to work in person.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/163 "2021-10-18T02:25:49Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > And yet the masks we were mandated to wear weren’t N95 masks and included homemade masks Do you think that if you can make Dr. Fauci look bad it will somehow make Rand Paul look good? ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/164 "2021-10-18T02:28:40Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > The lie was that masks didn’t work. you’re trying to change the metrics of the conversation. Oh, got another one. Is not disclosing an attempt to profit from a looming global health crisis lying? Well, it’s sure something, isn’t it? > **[Rand Paul discloses 16 months late that his wife bought stock in company...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/11/rand-paul-gilead-stock/)** > > The February 2020 purchase's disclosure Wednesday was at odds with the 45-day deadline set forth by a federal law designed to combat insider trading. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/165 "2021-10-18T10:16:04Z")
Look, it’s very simple. If you take Dr. Fauci’s remarks, remove them from their original context and place them into a newly-crafted narrative, they can be clearly demonstrated to be lies, much in the same way that if you take Hillary Clinton’s “What difference does it make?” out of its original context and place it into a newly-crafted narrative, she can be shown to have a cavalier attitude to the lives of Americans. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/166 "2021-10-18T12:28:57Z")
Good point! We never did investigate Fauci’s involvement in Benghazi did we? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/167 "2021-10-18T14:18:46Z")
Quick! Strike a committee (or sixteen) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/168 "2021-10-18T14:19:24Z")
Why is Rand Paul lying about masks NOW? ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/169 "2021-10-18T14:38:09Z")
Exactly. Of course there’s the even worse lie when Rand Paul actually tested positive and continued to work for nearly a week before he announced his test results. That includes using the gym. > **[Sen. Rand Paul kept working for six days after virus test](https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-rand-paul-politics-martha-mcsally-kyrsten-sinema-0e99540d0d77587c88adeee3474d3ab4)** > > WASHINGTON (AP) — Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul says he was tested a week ago for the novel ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/170 "2021-10-18T15:02:34Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > > [@Tfletch1](#): > > > > In fact, the NIH currently counts 81 studies on ivermectin and covid-19. > > I didn’t track the gaps down but those all seem to be research taking place in the Middle East and South America. They don’t seem to be authorized by our government, and that would track with our government’s (and Fauci’s) public statements. Governmental bodies i.e. the NIH and FDA have been saying that ivermectin use to treat/prevent Covid-19 is not recommended outside of clinical trials, and some of that research _has_ been government funded. > **[Government-funded program to study effects of Ivermectin with COVID patients](https://www.newschannel5.com/news/government-funded-program-to-study-effects-of-ivermectin-with-covid-patients)** > > Ivermectin has gained the most attention recently because some were getting doses meant for large animals from farm-supply companies. Other work in the U.S. is ongoing, bankrolled by private sources. > **[U of M Medical School receives $1.5M to launch nation’s first ivermectin...](https://med.umn.edu/news/u-m-medical-school-receives-15m-launch-nations-first-ivermectin-covid-19-treatment-clinical-trial)** > > An expansion of an ongoing outpatient clinical trial, the study now includes metformin, fluvoxamine and ivermectin as possible treatments of COVID-19 and to prevent “long COVID” Other U.S.-based research is part of the 77 studies currently registered at [ClinicalTrials.gov](http://ClinicalTrials.gov). [http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19&term=ivermectin&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=&Search=Search](http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=COVID-19&term=ivermectin&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=&Search=Search) It would probably be accurate to say that the NIH has not poured a huge amount of money into ivermectin-based Covid-19 research. There are multiple agents currently being investigated, including ones whose promise is not based solely on effects in tissue culture and anecdotal reports, and which (unlike ivermectin) haven’t been tainted by sloppy and even fraudulent research as well as overblown hype based on political motivations. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/171 "2021-10-18T15:04:41Z")
Yes, but the Steward said that tea was at 3:00, not 4:00. -Magiver on the Titanic. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/172 "2021-10-18T15:15:19Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Governmental bodies i.e. the NIH and FDA have been saying that ivermectin use to treat/prevent Covid-19 is not recommended outside of clinical trials, and some of that research _has_ been government funded. Fair enough. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/173 "2021-10-18T15:34:29Z")
So they lied when they said the ship was unsinkable? ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/174 "2021-10-18T17:23:56Z")
The iceberg was obviously planted by the Deep State. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/175 "2021-10-18T17:42:49Z")
There’s no iceberg. Keep dancing, sheeple! ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/176 "2021-10-18T21:07:28Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > The iceberg was obviously planted by the Deep State. The iceberg leaked from the Wuhan lab. It was funded by Liar Fauci and the Deep State. Don’t trust the life boats! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/177 "2021-10-18T21:18:45Z")
This so called “sinking” is just a ploy by “Big Lifeboat” to sell more of their poison product! Fake news! The dead from the Titanic were all crisis actors who would have lived if they had only listened to the wisdom of Thordoric of York, and applied leeches to their faces. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/178 "2021-10-18T21:28:09Z")
Nitpick: Theodoric of York These Titanic parodies are just illustrating how that party has gone beyond satire. ---
**Author:** ![Tfletch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tfletch1/32/5340_2.png) [@Tfletch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tfletch1)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/179 "2021-10-18T21:29:57Z")
If only they did more research on Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine they’d see that they prevent you from freezing to death in arctic waters and allow you to swim home. No Big Lifeboat! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/180 "2021-10-18T21:43:24Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Nitpick: Theodoric of York I’m sorry, I lisped because I had a leech stuck to my lip. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905/181 "2021-10-18T22:16:45Z")
You’re all making light of what is clearly a serious situation. I’ve heard many people say that Dr. Fauci has sent and received emails at some point in his time working for the government. Where there is an email, there has to be a server somewhere. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-and-fauci/946905.md?page=10)