# Rand Paul: Great White Hunter tries to educate students at Howard U. about Republican Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563 "2013-04-13T02:36:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/121 "2013-04-17T13:54:14Z")
Yes. Howard is in DC where most, if not all, major news outlets have a substantial presence. Simmons is in Boston where most, if not all, major news outlets do not have a substantial presence. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/122 "2013-04-17T14:05:47Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Yes, did you? > > Again, reeeeeaaaaallly slllloooooooowwwwllly for you: > > Me: The MSM would love to cover an event with Property X. > You: Then why didn’t they cover Event Y? > Me: Because Event Y didn’t have Property X, you nincompoop! > You: When did I ever say Event Y had Property X? > > I can’t tell whether you’re being deliberately obtuse, or whether your IQ is competitive with that of kelp. Not that there’s a functional difference in the conversation, of course. I will continue to reply to you to the extent that I find it amusing to do so, but that will be the extent of it. You should continue to feel free to call me names if that makes you feel better; we all must to what we can to aid the less fortunate. Or, given that I have repeatedly said the media only covered the HU speech to the extent they did _because_ it was a failure, you could see that I was responding to your latter point: > [@RTFirefly](#): > > They love ‘reaching across’ and all that stuff. Which, again, they don’t really care about unless something sensational happens. Parsing my comments the way you did makes no sense given that if the media only covers reaching out to Black people if it’s successful, the HU event, which was by almost all accounts a huge failure, would not be covered. That you think coverage is contingent upon that is just showing more of your general ignorance. This whole thread has been about what a colossal fuckup it was. Do you think the Daily Show would be talking about this it the speech went off well? The media goes to these things because there is a high likelihood of failure. I was questioning your supposition that media loves reaching across the aisle, not that said coverage was dependent upon it being successful. Clearly that is not true given the disparate coverage of the two Paul events, and the coverage of the HU alone. THIS IS NOT THAT COMPLICATED. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/123 "2013-04-17T14:10:35Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Yes. > > Howard is in DC where most, if not all, major news outlets have a substantial presence. > > Simmons is in Boston where most, if not all, major news outlets do not have a substantial presence. Simmons College is in Louisville, Ky. Regardless, there are plenty of news outlet ready to cover such an event if the situation warranted it. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/124 "2013-04-17T14:12:16Z")
[My bad](http://www.simmons.edu/). Regardless, my point stands, if not actually is strengthened. It’s easy for political reporters to go see a speech in DC, expensive for them to go to Louisville. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/125 "2013-04-17T14:17:57Z")
FWIW, [Paul says he is considering running for POTUS in 2016.](http://start.toshiba.com/news/read.php?rip_id=%3CDA5NAFQ81%40news.ap.org%3E&ps=1011) Here’s a neat quote: > [@](#): > > Paul says… that he wants to be part of the national debate and being considered a potential candidate gives him a “larger microphone” on issues. So, maybe that is what these ‘outreach’ appearances really are all about? Anyway, good luck, sucker! Bwa ha ha ha 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/126 "2013-04-17T14:18:39Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [My bad](http://www.simmons.edu/). > > Regardless, my point stands, if not actually is strengthened. It’s easy for political reporters to go see a speech in DC, expensive for them to go to Louisville. Really dude? Nearly every major news outlet has affiliates in KY. Besides, media coverage is typically not measured by the number of people AT the event, but rather the number of people who write and report on it. For example, I don’t think the Daily Show went to HU to see Paul speak, yet they “reported” on it. That the event was in KY vs. DC is largely irrelevant. It’s not as if Louisville is in the middle of nowhere either. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/127 "2013-04-17T14:19:55Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > FWIW, [Paul says he is considering running for POTUS in 2016.](http://start.toshiba.com/news/read.php?rip_id=%3CDA5NAFQ81%40news.ap.org%3E&ps=1011) Here’s a neat quote: > > So, maybe that is what these ‘outreach’ appearances really are all about? > > Anyway, good luck, sucker! Bwa ha ha ha 🙂 As I said, Rand Paul is running in the same way Ron Paul ran. He is not a legitimate candidate, and his chances of winning are less than 1%. If you think he has a shot, put some money on it. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/128 "2013-04-17T14:22:11Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > If you think he has a shot, put some money on it. I’d sooner buy gold 😛 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/129 "2013-04-17T14:23:24Z")
Might be difficult to cash in my bet on him being elected President at the same time as I make a dash for the border before the Canadians close it. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/130 "2013-04-17T14:27:03Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Or, given that I have repeatedly said the media only covered the HU speech to the extent they did _because_ it was a failure, you could see that I was responding to your latter point: Dude, I repeat: [QUOTE=RTFirefly] They’d have LOVED to cover a “Republican successfully reaches out to blacks” event. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=brickbacon] Since the media LOVES to cover these things, I wonder why that wasn’t on the nightly news. [/QUOTE] Gee, even the same word emphasized with block caps. I wonder how I could have _possibly_ got the idea that you were responding to that particular sentence of mine? 😃 Shorter **brickbacon** : I didn’t say what I said! [QUOTE=brickbacon; emphasis added by RTFirefly] Parsing my comments the way you did makes no sense given that if the media **only** covers reaching out to Black people if it’s successful, the HU event, which was by almost all accounts a huge failure, would not be covered. [/QUOTE] That’s because I didn’t say ‘only’, did I? 🙂 Pro tip from basic logic: A ==\> B doesn’t mean (not A) ==\> (not B). Gotta go do some work; I’ll be back later to continue to suffer fools with great amusement. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/131 "2013-04-17T14:39:21Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Dude, I repeat: > Gee, even the same word emphasized with block caps. I wonder how I could have _possibly_ got the idea that you were responding to that particular sentence of mine? 😃 Once again you were making assumptions most smart people would not if they were paying attention at all. I was perhaps giving too much credit in that I thought you would not think “success” was a necessary condition for media coverage of a political speech or event, and that you were using the word as part of a hypothetical headline. I was hoping your were just highlighting what a headline might say in a situation like this, and not trying to pretend that that was a standard for how much coverage said event would receive. But that is my fault. I should not bother giving you any credit. Someone stupid enough to think Romney spoke to the NAACP just to rile up his White base should not be given the benefit of the doubt. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/132 "2013-04-17T15:12:12Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Might be difficult to cash in my bet on him being elected President at the same time as I make a dash for the border before the Canadians close it. Couldn’t have said it better myself. These are the sort of “impossible to cash in on bets” for suckers. ---
**Author:** ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/133 "2013-04-17T15:17:22Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > When I was a kid and watched Republican Conventions, every other word from the speakers was “Party of Lincoln.” Haven’t heard that much lately. They might think about what would happen if that became their mantra again - it might give them a clue. It seem to me that they want to be the Party of Reagan now. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/134 "2013-04-17T15:42:00Z")
> [@DrumBum](#): > > It seem to me that they want to be the Party of Reagan now. [Think again.](http://www.thenation.com/blog/reagan-would-fail-purity-test-proposed-gop#) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/135 "2013-04-17T15:52:19Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > Really dude? Nearly every major news outlet has affiliates in KY. Besides, media coverage is typically not measured by the number of people AT the event, but rather the number of people who write and report on it. For example, I don’t think the Daily Show went to HU to see Paul speak, yet they “reported” on it. That the event was in KY vs. DC is largely irrelevant. It’s not as if Louisville is in the middle of nowhere either. Really. Is there a NYT correspondent in Louisville? How many political reporters staff the AP offices there? How about _Time_ magazine - how many people are in their Louisville, KY bureau? The venue is highly relevant as to the news coverage, and arguments to the contrary are :rolleyes: -able. Its why bombs going off in Boston are more newsworty in the US than bombs going off in Manila. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/136 "2013-04-17T16:03:40Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Really. Is there a NYT correspondent in Louisville? How many political reporters staff the AP offices there? How about _Time_ magazine - how many people are in their Louisville, KY bureau? > > The venue is highly relevant as to the news coverage, and arguments to the contrary are :rolleyes: -able. Its why bombs going off in Boston are more newsworty in the US than bombs going off in Manila. No, but there is an AP reporter and someone from Reuters. And a freelancer can be deployed via a phone call. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/137 "2013-04-17T16:08:26Z")
> [@brickbacon](#): > > I was perhaps giving too much credit in that I thought…you were using the word as part of a hypothetical headline. I was hoping your were just highlighting what a headline might say in a situation like this Why on earth would you think that? Man, this one’s _totally_ out of left field. > [@](#): > > But that is my fault. Can’t argue with you there. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/138 "2013-04-17T16:53:51Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > A six pack of Pearl and a possum > > “Wash an Aggie sheven coursh dinner, Trebek, your shlut of a mother told me that one…” In case you missed last month’s news, a former Animal Husbandry major and Yell Leader will have exciting news for us this summer: > [@](#): > > Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) is set to make some big announcements regarding his political future later this year. > > Perry will decide in June if he will seek reelection as Texas governor and will make an announcement “sometime later in the year" about another presidential run in 2016… Speaking of marginal candidates… ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/139 "2013-04-17T16:58:23Z")
As far as the viability of a Rand Paul Presidential run is concerned, I’ll say this: 1. He’s a much more viable candidate than his father, because unlike his dad, he’s not taking a position contrary to his party on any major issue. Also, Senator v. Representative. 2. I wouldn’t bet on him to win the GOP nomination in 2016, because I think the stars are aligning behind Rubio. 3. But I’d bet on him to place, and wouldn’t be surprised if he does well enough in the primaries that he becomes the early favorite for the 2020 nomination, the guy whose proverbial ‘turn’ it is that year. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563/140 "2013-04-17T17:04:57Z")
God, I hope Perry runs for POTUS again. Herman Cain, too. The Daily Show hasn’t been the same without them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-great-white-hunter-tries-to-educate-students-at-howard-u-about-republican-party/655563.md?page=8)