# Rand Paul Leading Clinton in Iowa Poll **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 9, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-leading-clinton-in-iowa-poll/717226 "2015-04-09T16:31:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-leading-clinton-in-iowa-poll/717226/21 "2015-04-10T18:39:41Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > **The topic here is Presidential elections** , not the power of the NRA to stir up their base in off years. > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > **The King comment was inserted to demonstrate Iowa’s batshittedness** , which extends to its presidential votes. And Hispanic voters do tend to vote against the party that hates them. Do please try a little harder. (bold and underline added) I was following your lead. Which is it? **ElvisL1ves** ’s Presidential elections only, or do normal forum rules apply? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-leading-clinton-in-iowa-poll/717226/22 "2015-04-10T18:46:16Z")
Do \*please \*try harder. Please. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-leading-clinton-in-iowa-poll/717226/23 "2015-04-11T03:46:17Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > That gets the GOP up to 221. Add in Florida and you get 250. Now what? Virginia gets you close, but it’s been trending the other direction. OH gets you even closer, but you’d still need either NM or NV. > > Certainly possible, but still a tough row to hoe. That’s why there’s no substitute for just competing nationally. win the popular vote by as little as three points and you almost certainly win the electoral vote. But I do agree that a neck and neck race favors Democrats at this point due to the map. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-leading-clinton-in-iowa-poll/717226/24 "2015-04-11T03:49:41Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > The topic here is Presidential elections, not the power of the NRA to stir up their base in off years. Cory Gardner. But look, when you define any non=Presidential election as an “off year”, that leaves you with the Presidency and er, not much else. You surrender most state legislatures and governors, and usually the House and the Senate as well. Personally, I can live with a country where the Republicans control nearly everything but we have a Democratic head of state. If that state of affairs goes on long enough, the Presidency can be weakened through amendments and legislation and funding choices until it’s akin to most democracies’ heads of state, who are mostly just figureheads, with the real power residing in the head of the legislature. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-leading-clinton-in-iowa-poll/717226/25 "2015-04-11T07:12:02Z")
At least initially, Rand Paul appears to be the most electable Republican, doing a little better in matchups with Clinton than others. Has anyone like Nate Silver drilled down into the data to find out why? Is he doing better among independents, winning some anti-war liberals? Is he doing better among minorities? Is he gaining a couple of points from people who usually don’t vote? ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-leading-clinton-in-iowa-poll/717226/26 "2015-04-11T10:41:55Z")
I figure it’s Charlie Pierce’s “five-minute rule” about the Pauls. Listen to one of them for up to five minutes and you’ll generally agree with what they’re saying. Any longer than that and they start going absolutely crazy. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-leading-clinton-in-iowa-poll/717226/27 "2015-04-11T17:35:38Z")
Unless Ron Paul is talking to a woman reporter, then shit goes down pretty fast the second she dares to interrupt him with facts. Seriously, I have never seen a presidential contender tell someone to “Shhhh” coupled with putting a finger to the lips. He really thinks women are stupid like children, doesnt he? (I don’t discount that it might have happened elsewhere but I haven’t seen it) ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-leading-clinton-in-iowa-poll/717226/28 "2015-04-11T18:16:48Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > At least initially, Rand Paul appears to be the most electable Republican … Y’all read a lot into a single poll in a single state that goes against all the others don’t you? [FWIW](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/) (which aint diddly) in NC Huckabee does best in a head to head against Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-leading-clinton-in-iowa-poll/717226/29 "2015-04-11T21:53:49Z")
Would losing to Paul in the Iowa Caucuses mean Hillary is less likely to win the Republican nomination? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-leading-clinton-in-iowa-poll/717226.md?page=1)