# Rand Paul presidential campaign discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 7, 2015, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039 "2015-04-07T14:27:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/101 "2015-05-30T04:48:52Z")

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An outfit called “America’s Liberty PAC” has [put out an ad](http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/29/politics/rand-paul-super-pac-ad-buy/) touting the upcoming Paul Brawl on the Hill, in which a shirtless and brawny Rand Paul assisted by fire-breathing bald eagles takes on Big Brother’s minions on SUNDAY! _SUNDAY!!_ _ **SUNDAY!!!** _

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/102 "2015-05-30T12:05:48Z")

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Oh-kaaayy.

That happened.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/103 "2015-06-03T14:12:12Z")

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[Now Paul wants redacted information from the 9/11 Report released.](http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-06-02/rand-paul-wants-redacted-9-11-information-released)

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> Flanked by members of Congress and the families of 9/11 victims, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul on Tuesday introduced legislation that would force 28 redacted pages of the 9/11 Commission report to be made public. He was building on a promise he made on the campaign trail, and a cause that had been furthered by New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand and Oregon Senator Ron Wyden, both Democrats.
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> “The survivors, civilian heroes, and victims of 9/11 attacks–some of whom are here today–deserve the full truth,” Paul said. “Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. While their nationality alone does not constitute any wrongdoing by the Saudi government, information that has been revealed over the years has raised questions about their support.”

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/104 "2015-06-03T17:50:32Z")

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Paul polls better against Clinton now than any other GOP candidate: down just 2.8% in the RCP average. Rubio is next best at 4.2%

[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general\_election\_paul\_vs\_clinton-3825.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_paul_vs_clinton-3825.html)

[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general\_election\_rubio\_vs\_clinton-3767.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_rubio_vs_clinton-3767.html)

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/105 "2015-06-04T13:47:07Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Paul polls better against Clinton now than any other GOP candidate: down just 2.8% in the RCP average. Rubio is next best at 4.2%
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> [2016 General Election: Paul vs. Clinton | RealClearPolling](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_paul_vs_clinton-3825.html)
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> [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general\_election\_rubio\_vs\_clinton-3767.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_rubio_vs_clinton-3767.html)

This should be very scary for GOP folks. If a guy who has 0% chance of winning the primary is their best candidate, they are ass over tits.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/106 "2015-06-04T18:05:32Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> This should be very scary for GOP folks. If a guy who has 0% chance of winning the primary is their best candidate, they are ass over tits.

The other problem is that if he somehow did get the nomination, the military-industrial-complex-uber-alles chunk of the party would pick up its ball and go home.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/107 "2015-06-04T23:14:34Z")

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No, they’d back Clinton, whose views they find completely unobjectionable.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/108 "2015-06-05T00:16:43Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> no, they’d back clinton, whose views they find completely unobjectionable.

republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad!

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/109 "2015-06-05T00:31:02Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> No, they’d back Clinton, whose views they find completely unobjectionable.

Indeed so.

[The Military-Industrial Candidate: Hillary Clinton prepares to launch the most formidable hawkish presidential campaign in a generation](http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-military-industrial-candidate/)

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/110 "2015-06-05T02:52:11Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad! Republicans good! Democrats bad!

No, just recognition that the military industrial complex has its grip on both parties. Even Liz Warren is in favor of big subsidies to companies like Boeing.

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**Author:** ![TruthMakesPeace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6f9a4e/32.png) [@TruthMakesPeace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruthMakesPeace)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/111 "2015-06-05T06:19:15Z")

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Rand Paul’s speeches to stop the renewal of the so called “Patriot” Act are among the greatest in the history of America. He is a true patriot.

He is also pressing for the release of the 28 page chapter that Bush classified about who helped fund 9/11. Deliberate hiding of the financing of a crime is obstruction of justice.

9/11 is now main stream news. [www.911Skeptics.org/news](http://www.911Skeptics.org/news)

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2015, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/112 "2015-06-06T10:25:05Z")

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> [@TruthMakesPeace](#):
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> 9/11 is now main stream news. [www.911Skeptics.org/news](http://www.911Skeptics.org/news)

As opposed to how it’s been an obscure, little-known event buried under the carpet until now.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/113 "2015-06-06T21:21:06Z")

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That has me wondering, is there anything on the standard browsers, say, cntrl-right click-alt that tells the browser to never, even, under any circumstances, bring up this page?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2015, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-paul-presidential-campaign-discussion-thread/717039/114 "2015-06-12T06:25:20Z")

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Joe Klein has a very generous article about Rand Paul:

> **[How Rand Paul Has Already Changed the 2016 Race](https://time.com/3917723/chatty-and-thoughtful-rand-paul-has-already-changed-the-2016-race/)**
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> The candidate has proven chatty and thoughtful

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