# Rand Rover: Ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055 "2009-03-02T20:33:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/21 "2009-03-02T22:44:36Z")
I imagine this thread really hurts his feelings. On the other hand, he won’t need any porn tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/22 "2009-03-02T22:54:34Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I imagine this thread really hurts his feelings. On the other hand, he won’t need any porn tonight. Oh yeah, it hurts my feelings soooo goooooood . . . I’ll set you folks straight when I get home tonight. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/23 "2009-03-02T22:56:43Z")
What, you’re suddenly busy lawyerin’? ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/24 "2009-03-02T22:59:43Z")
The guy must have spent, what, an hour just in the thread **mhendo** referenced. Laziness: It’s OK when an Objectivist does it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/25 "2009-03-02T23:01:51Z")
I would like to complain about the COMPLETELY redundant nature of the title of this pit thread. ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/26 "2009-03-02T23:01:55Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Yeah, this guy really is quite the fucking asshole. Did you see his response in **Quartz** ’s thread today? > > **Quartz** mentioned that he applied for a job and there were 2000 applicants for two positions. He lamented this situation, and asked how one was supposed to succeed against that much competition. > > It was largely a rhetorical question, yet our resident fucknugget felt the need to make the ever so useful reply: I found the response bizarre because he claims he’s a big firm tax lawyer but [doesn’t](http://www.abajournal.com/news/philadelphia_das_office_revokes_offers_to_all_12_incoming_attorneys/) [seem](http://abajournal.com/news/february_freefall_firms_ax_attorneys_freeze_pay) [to](http://abajournal.com/news/legal_consultant_ive_never_seen_it_this_bad) [be](http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/02/12/21209-the-darkest-day-ever-for-big-law-firms/) [aware](http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/02/12/21209-the-darkest-day-ever-for-big-law-firms/) of what’s going on in the legal industry. Guaranteed there are way-too-many applicants for any legal position available right now. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/27 "2009-03-02T23:04:44Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > What, you’re suddenly busy lawyerin’? Yeah. And it’s hard to quote and stuff on the blackberry. And I didn’t spend an hour in the Quartz thread, each post takes like 20 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/28 "2009-03-02T23:07:21Z")
> [@anu-la1979](#): > > I found the response bizarre because he claims he’s a big firm tax lawyer but [doesn’t](http://www.abajournal.com/news/philadelphia_das_office_revokes_offers_to_all_12_incoming_attorneys/) [seem](http://abajournal.com/news/february_freefall_firms_ax_attorneys_freeze_pay) [to](http://abajournal.com/news/legal_consultant_ive_never_seen_it_this_bad) [be](http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/02/12/21209-the-darkest-day-ever-for-big-law-firms/) [aware](http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/02/12/21209-the-darkest-day-ever-for-big-law-firms/) of what’s going on in the legal industry. Guaranteed there are way-too-many applicants for any legal position available right now. Ask any legal recruiter, they hate trying to fill tax positions. We are the few and the proud. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/29 "2009-03-02T23:10:38Z")
[QUOTE=Rand Rover] And I didn’t spend an hour in the Quartz thread, each post takes like 20 seconds. [/QUOTE] Sure it does, when you’ve memorized the talking points. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/30 "2009-03-02T23:13:41Z")
Meh, who cares about his occupation? It’s his blatant misunderstanding and misrepresentation of the works of Ayn Rand that annoys me. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/31 "2009-03-02T23:14:59Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I imagine this thread really hurts his feelings. On the other hand, he won’t need any porn tonight. > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Yeah. And it’s hard to quote and stuff on the blackberry. What makes me think somebody bought themselves a blackberry, and thinks it makes them important? If he doesn’t need any porn tonight, lets hope he’s not the teenage McDonalds employee I’m starting to suspect he is, on a night shift. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/32 "2009-03-02T23:17:29Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Meh, who cares about his occupation? It’s his blatant misunderstanding and misrepresentation of the works of Ayn Rand that annoys me. For example? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/33 "2009-03-02T23:20:14Z")
> [@GorillaMan](#): > > What makes me think somebody bought themselves a blackberry, and thinks it makes them important? If he doesn’t need any porn tonight, lets hope he’s not the teenage McDonalds employee I’m starting to suspect he is, on a night shift. LOL. The fact that you think smeone is touting their importance by saying they have a blackberry shows the level you operate on. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/34 "2009-03-02T23:25:10Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > LOL. The fact that you think smeone is touting their importance by saying they have a blackberry shows the level you operate on. Heh. A LOL-ing tax attorney. Heh. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/35 "2009-03-02T23:25:27Z")
Although I don’t really give a shit if you guys believe me, if anyone can come up with a “tax lawyer test” I’ll take it. NB: i work on deals and don’t do returns, so no questions about home ofice deductions etc., ypou should instead ask about reorgs and 338(h)(10)s and fund structures and FIRPTA etc. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/36 "2009-03-02T23:25:34Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > :_eyes **tdn** _ > > That’s quite enough of your vitreous humor. It’s that time of the month. He’s fenestrating. ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/37 "2009-03-02T23:33:58Z")
Gary K.? Is that you? ---
**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/38 "2009-03-02T23:36:15Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Ask any legal recruiter, they hate trying to fill tax positions. We are the few and the proud. While you can take as many tax or bankruptcy classes as your school offers, you do not graduate with degrees in “tax law” or “bankruptcy law” at the J.D. level. That’s only possible at the LL.M. stage and I’ve never heard of anyone going straight to their LL.M after graduating with a J.D.. You have a comparative advantage if you summered with a tax firm, or you had a CPA/accounting background before you got to law school. So it’s nice and all that you claim you’re untouchable, but if you really are a lawyer then it’s likely you got the experience you did in tax law because some firm hired you and trained you up while the economy was good and there were no hiring freezes. So maybe you ought to rethink the “educate yourself” theme as a response to the job woes of other people, as there are plenty of graduates from elite business and law schools struggling right now because the economy is in the shitter and not because they didn’t take the time and effort to educate themselves to the point where they were immune from facing 2000 applicants for every 1 job available to them. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/39 "2009-03-02T23:41:50Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Although I don’t really give a shit if you guys believe me… Well, good, because, just speaking for myself here, I don’t really give a shit whether you’re a tax lawyer, file clerk or President-for-Life of Zambia. The OP has put forth the proposition that you are an ass, and I must confess that so far I have seen little evidence against it. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2009, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/40 "2009-03-02T23:42:14Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Although I don’t really give a shit if you guys believe me, if anyone can come up with a “tax lawyer test” I’ll take it. **1.** How many tax lawyers does it take to screw in a light bulb? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055.md?page=3)