# Rand Rover: Ass **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 2, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055 "2009-03-02T20:33:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![SuntanTigerTamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@SuntanTigerTamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanTigerTamer)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/101 "2009-03-03T04:15:54Z")
After reading this thread, and knowing nothing else in the world about Rand Rover, except his own words here, I would agree whole-heartedly with the OP. He’s an ass, and he knows it and loves it. Stop feeding the troll… Pz, STT ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/102 "2009-03-03T06:30:02Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > I thought that there wasn’t much competition for the village idiot post. There is, but they weeded out the one who showed up for the interview. And yes, I did steal that joke from **Blackadder**. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/103 "2009-03-03T06:49:38Z")
Best description I’ve ever read of Ayn Rand’s writing was “…characters hacked out of concrete with a blunt ice pick.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/104 "2009-03-03T06:58:35Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Yes, it’s hard to read things you are not intelligent enough to understand. Wouldn’t know, but I’ll take your word for it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/105 "2009-03-03T09:44:12Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Just because you don’t like me personally doesn’t mean I have misinterpreted Ayn Rand. My opinions of your personality are completely irrelevant to your misunderstanding of Ayn Rand. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/106 "2009-03-03T10:35:11Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > Seriously? Dude, it’s Ayn Rand. I’ve never met a grown person who takes Ayn Rand seriously. It’s thousands of pages of adolescent aggrandizment fantasy. It’s Philosophy for Dummies. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/107 "2009-03-03T13:14:43Z")
And now I’m working while many of you are still in bed. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/108 "2009-03-03T13:15:42Z")
See? People are starting to get it. It’s _fun_ to be pitted by people whose opinions you don’t respect. It was fun both times it happened to me. Whatever scorn was heaped on me didn’t matter because it was being shoveled by people I could feel superior to, and their effort reinforced my superiority. If it’s at all important to “get” Rand Rover (and why one would feel so escapes me), choose a tack that _won’t_ make him smile: state his understanding of Ayn Rand’s philosophy is flawed, or that the philosophy itself is flawed. As far as I can tell, while most of you were expressing irritation at him, he was expressing irritation at _me_ (“drop it”), therefore I win. Peace out, y’all. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/109 "2009-03-03T13:20:39Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > And now I’m working while many of you are still in bed. I told you, _NO cheese on my Egg McMuffin!_ ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/110 "2009-03-03T13:24:11Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > And now I’m working while many of you are still in bed. Sucker. I don’t see where that’s anything to brag about. I’d much rather be in bed than working. Sadly, obviously, I’m awake. Not working yet, though. My job doesn’t start until 9. Of course, I’m not a [del]bloodsucking leech[/del] high powered tax attorney, just a humble teacher. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/111 "2009-03-03T13:25:26Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > See? People are starting to get it. > It’s _fun_ to be pitted by people whose opinions you don’t respect. It was fun both times it happened to me. Whatever scorn was heaped on me didn’t matter because it was being shoveled by people I could feel superior to, and their effort reinforced my superiority. If it’s at all important to “get” Rand Rover (and why one would feel so escapes me), choose a tack that _won’t_ make him smile: state his understanding of Ayn Rand’s philosophy is flawed, or that the philosophy itself is flawed. As far as I can tell, while most of you were expressing irritation at him, he was expressing irritation at _me_ (“drop it”), therefore I win. > > Peace out, y’all. Please. Don’t flatter yourself. I said “put up or shut up,” not “drop it.”. Now you want some hash browns with that? ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/112 "2009-03-03T13:27:03Z")
> [@Ale](#): > > Ironically, in your ideal world you wouldn’t have your oh-so-fundamental job. Indeed, this is what I was thinking. The job is, in effect, suckling on the Federal teat. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/113 "2009-03-03T13:38:38Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Sucker. I don’t see where that’s anything to brag about. I’d much rather be in bed than working. Yeesh. I’ll go ahead and be embarrassed for you since you apparently don’t think that’s an embarrassing admission. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/114 "2009-03-03T13:42:47Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > Indeed, this is what I was thinking. The job is, in effect, suckling on the Federal teat. What? How am I sucking on the federal teat by working to reduce people’s taxes? By your definition, nearly every American with a job is sucking on the federal teat because their job wouldn’t exist if the US gov didn’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/115 "2009-03-03T13:47:06Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > And now I’m working while many of you are still in bed. Don’t you wish you had a job that would let you spend more time with your newborn? You know, the one you used to talk about here but don’t any more? Well, at least you’ve got your money to console you. And posting here, which I’m sure is a relief. Glad we can be your punching bag. ---
**Author:** ![FarmerChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FarmerChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerChick)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/116 "2009-03-03T13:50:40Z")
I have read this thread and fully endorse the OP. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/117 "2009-03-03T14:01:22Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > Don’t you wish you had a job that would let you spend more time with your newborn? You know, the one you used to talk about here but don’t any more? > > Well, at least you’ve got your money to console you. And posting here, which I’m sure is a relief. Glad we can be your punching bag. :rolleyes: I work my ass off during the week so I can have the weekends generally free to spend with the most beautiful young creature that has ever pooped on planet earth. And she’ll appreciate that I can send her to private school and make sure she’s comfortable, so the money I make does make a real difference in her life, it’s not like it’s some cold comfort from an absentee dad. But if it makes you feel better to think that everyone that is more successful thajn you has a bad relationship with ther kids as a result, then keep on trucking and I feel even more sorry for you than I already did. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/118 "2009-03-03T14:11:31Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > What? How am I sucking on the federal teat by working to reduce people’s taxes? By your definition, nearly every American with a job is sucking on the federal teat because their job wouldn’t exist if the US gov didn’t exist. Well, Ale said [QUOTE=Ale] Ironically, in your ideal world you wouldn’t have your oh-so-fundamental job. [/QUOTE] Suggesting, I think, that an ideal world according to Ayn Rand would probably not include a tax system that required tax lawyers. I have only read Atlas Shrugged, but based on that I don’t think she would consider you to be producing anything. Slinging fast food, on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/119 "2009-03-03T14:14:37Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > :rolleyes: I work my ass off during the week so I can have the weekends generally free to spend with the most beautiful young creature that has ever pooped on planet earth. And she’ll appreciate that I can send her to private school and make sure she’s comfortable, so the money I make does make a real difference in her life, it’s not like it’s some cold comfort from an absentee dad. But if it makes you feel better to think that everyone that is more successful thajn you has a bad relationship with ther kids as a result, then keep on trucking and I feel even more sorry for you than I already did. Hey, if you gotta work your ass off for that, more power to yah. It just cracks some of us up that you disrespect those of us who work 40-a-week but do things like “live in the town with a great public magnet school that outperforms almost all the private schools within a reasonable radius” and “prefer to have a nice little house with a good sized yard to a McMansion on a 1/8-acre in suburbia”. The way I see it, we’re both happy, the only difference is that _I’M_ not shitting on _YOUR_ dreams and life because I don’t share your exact ideals–you have a pretty strong tendency to do just that. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055/120 "2009-03-03T14:18:52Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > And she’ll appreciate that I can send her to private school and make sure she’s comfortable, so the money I make does make a real difference in her life, it’s not like it’s some cold comfort from an absentee dad. Dude, you are the one who is bragging about how many hours he works. Not us. You are the one who couldn’t wait to get home yesterday, not so he could see his wife and kid, but so he could slag us more. Not us. You are the one who’s attacked our lifestyles. But you can’t seem to take what you dish out. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-ass/488055.md?page=7)