# Rand Rover, you want to associate with us? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 30, 2009, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734 "2009-07-30T01:09:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/181 "2009-08-01T04:38:33Z")
That’s just sad. Please get some help. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/182 "2009-08-01T04:40:41Z")
ps: No need to respond. I won’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/183 "2009-08-01T04:53:50Z")
Way to click and read this, moron, you aren’t very good at ignoring people. The point, dear readers, is that digs feels that it’s OK to say that I have a mental disorder because I have a different political opinion than him and like to razz people on internet messageboards. However, when I say nasty and crude and lewd personal things about him (with absolutely no factual basis, by the way, as I obviously have never met his mother), he gets all offended and ignores me. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/184 "2009-08-01T05:08:30Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > The point, dear readers, is that digs feels that it’s OK to say that I have a mental disorder because I have a different political opinion than him and like to razz people on internet messageboards. No, you have a mental disorder AND you have a different political opinion from the vast majority of the posters here. The only debate is whether they are connected or not. I believe that you have a near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others, and that led you to a political philosophy that views a near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others as a virtue. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/185 "2009-08-01T05:14:29Z")
Man, gaffa, I sure wish I could kill you and everyone you’ve ever kissed right now. Oh wait, no I don’t. I guess you have some proof of my “near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others” that you can post here? And if your proof is “like, all your posts, man, like, everything you say,” then you will have proven my point, which is that you simply disagree with my political views. Just because I think society works better with limited government that does not act as a welfare state does not mean that I have a “near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others.” You are using classic “bargaing” type analysis–i.e., to prove you are not a racist, you must give something to racial minorities. You want me (and, by extension, those with my political views) to prove we do not have a “near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others” by giving stuff to poor people. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/186 "2009-08-01T05:39:17Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Just because I think society works better with limited government that does not act as a welfare state does not mean that I have a “near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others.” You are using classic “bargaing” type analysis–i.e., to prove you are not a racist, you must give something to racial minorities. You want me (and, by extension, those with my political views) to prove we do not have a “near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others” by giving stuff to poor people. Nope, an evaluation by a psychiatrist will do nicely. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/187 "2009-08-01T05:40:26Z")
I guess you have some proof of my “near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others” that you can post here? And if your proof is “like, all your posts, man, like, everything you say,” then you will have proven my point, which is that you simply disagree with my political views. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/188 "2009-08-01T06:22:47Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I guess you have some proof of my “near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others” that you can post here? And if your proof is “like, all your posts, man, like, everything you say,” then you will have proven my point, which is that you simply disagree with my political views. Have you ever had a psychiatric evaluation? ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/189 "2009-08-01T11:17:16Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Way to click and read this, moron, you aren’t very good at ignoring people. > > The point, dear readers, is that digs feels that it’s OK to say that I have a mental disorder because I have a different political opinion than him and like to razz people on internet messageboards. However, when I say nasty and crude and lewd personal things about him (with absolutely no factual basis, by the way, as I obviously have never met his mother), he gets all offended and ignores me. Actually Digs said that a lot of us have mental disorders and need counseling at least. I had a very angry response, but then the new tranqs the doctor gave me kicked in. Bottle said they were horse tranquilizers, and the pills were rather large. Ah well. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/190 "2009-08-01T14:46:15Z")
This thread is making me feel like the bums won, Lebowski. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/191 "2009-08-01T16:18:30Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Have you ever had a psychiatric evaluation? Have you? ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/192 "2009-08-01T16:28:16Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Have you? Wow, you really are grasping at rhetorical straws here, aren’t you? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/193 "2009-08-01T16:29:01Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Actually Digs said that a lot of us have mental disorders and need counseling at least. I had a very angry response, but then the new tranqs the doctor gave me kicked in. Bottle said they were horse tranquilizers, and the pills were rather large. Ah well. GOOD NEWS! It’s a suppository. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/194 "2009-08-01T16:30:55Z")
Apropos of nothing, I had an illness when I was a child - I was a ventriloquist when I was 8. But I got well and have had no signs of it since I was 11. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/195 "2009-08-01T16:38:01Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Wow, you really are grasping at rhetorical straws here, aren’t you? Huh? I have never had a psychiatric evaluation because I have no reason to go to a psychiatrist. If you think this has any bearing on whether I have a “near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others” then you are a complete idiot. Also, you are the one engaging in rhetorical flourishes. You don’t call me a psychopath, because that at least has some kind of accepted meaning (i.e., it’s in the DSM IV). So, instead, you say I have a “near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others,” which lets you weasel out of actually claiming anything if you later want to. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/196 "2009-08-01T17:12:38Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Apropos of nothing, I had an illness when I was a child - I was a ventriloquist when I was 8. But I got well and have had no signs of it since I was 11. Ventriloquism can be cured! ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/197 "2009-08-01T17:29:59Z")
**Rand Rover** So where are you and what DO you do for a living? ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/198 "2009-08-01T17:53:16Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Huh? I have never had a psychiatric evaluation because I have no reason to go to a psychiatrist. If you think this has any bearing on whether I have a “near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others” then you are a complete idiot. Right. So I’ll take that as an admission that you _don’t_ have a clean bill of mental health. Thanks. > [@](#): > > Also, you are the one engaging in rhetorical flourishes. You don’t call me a psychopath, because that at least has some kind of accepted meaning (i.e., it’s in the DSM IV). So, instead, you say I have a “near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others,” which lets you weasel out of actually claiming anything if you later want to. I said exactly what I meant to say, that you have a near-psychopathic disregard for the lives of others. Interestingly, most psychopaths believe they are perfectly sane. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/199 "2009-08-01T18:13:14Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Right. So I’ll take that as an admission that you _don’t_ have a clean bill of mental health. Thanks. Rumor has it he has also never been acquitted of the Nicole Simpson murder or been cut from the New York Yankees. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/200 "2009-08-01T18:26:03Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Right. So I’ll take that as an admission that you _don’t_ have a clean bill of mental health. Thanks. So what was the date of your last pshychiatric evaluation? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734.md?page=11)