# Rand Rover, you want to associate with us? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 30, 2009, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734 "2009-07-30T01:09:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/61 "2009-07-30T03:25:41Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > The implied threat in the OP was conditional on my being drunk, and - yes - under certain circumstances that has happened in real life. I see very little difference between Rand Rover’s attitude towards me and the guy’s attitude towards me who called me a traitor shortly after the invasion of Iraq, and I see very little reason as to why I would react to them differently were the circumstances similar. If you want the opportunity to prove how big of a stud you are through physical combat, I’m willing to give it to you (no weapons allowed). PM me. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/62 "2009-07-30T03:27:05Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Then you’re a worse person than someone who plays a Randian on the internets. I’m doing a pretty shitty job of playing a Randian, seein’ as how I’ve disavowed the central tenet of Randianism. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/63 "2009-07-30T03:27:38Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Then you’re a worse person than someone who plays a Randian on the internets. Your privilege. Want to meet me at a dopefest? ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/64 "2009-07-30T03:30:08Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I’m doing a pretty shitty job of playing a Randian, seein’ as how I’ve disavowed the central tenet of Randianism. It’s Objectivism, moron. Randianism is worship of [James Randi](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Randi), a far worthier undertaking, though The Amazing himself doesn’t approve of it at ALL. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/65 "2009-07-30T03:30:11Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Your privilege. Want to meet me at a dopefest? I don’t do dopefests. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/66 "2009-07-30T03:31:56Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > It’s Objectivism, moron. I used the term Randian first, and while you’re free to call me a moron, I think you’ll find that “Randian” is a term that is usually associated with an admiration of Rand. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/67 "2009-07-30T03:34:16Z")
Thanks jsgoddess. Rubystreak, you have broken our truce (i.e., where we agreed not to shit on each other for no good reason). It is ON like Ramadan! ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/68 "2009-07-30T03:36:20Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I don’t do dopefests. Well, assume that you do. If you did, given that I am (in your eyes) a worse person, would you be willing to attend a dopefest that I tried to start? If you’ll apply your feelings towards me to my feelings towards **Rand Rover** , then I think we’re done here. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/69 "2009-07-30T03:37:15Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Well, assume that you do. If you did, given that I am (in your eyes) a worse person, would you be willing to attend a dopefest that I tried to start? Of course. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/70 "2009-07-30T03:40:10Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Of course. OK. I don’t get it, but . . . OK. ---
**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/71 "2009-07-30T03:42:39Z")
Well, if rand somehow gets to a dopefest, and if the dope is a microcosm of America, as most of you lefties believe, then he will for sure note that obesity is a major problem. How will Obamacare address this? What say you? The pics don’t lie. Suck on that! ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/72 "2009-07-30T03:45:07Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > NO!! You take that back!!! I do NOT have a secret crush on Guinistasia, please stop insisting that I do!! I do NOT have a “sex with an epileptic” fetish for gods’ sakes, that is gross!!! I would NOT risk my family and career just to steal her used panties, you pervert, stop saying that!!! Everybody knows that **curlcoat** is the woman for you! ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/73 "2009-07-30T03:46:10Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I used the term Randian first, and while you’re free to call me a moron, I think you’ll find that “Randian” is a term that is usually associated with an admiration of Rand. While “Randian” may denote admiration of Rand, Objectivism is the name of the philosophy, not “Randianism,” which is what that other maroon said. Don’t try to take a bullet for him. He doesn’t repay kindness with kindness, as I found out the hard way. > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Thanks jsgoddess. > > Rubystreak, you have broken our truce (i.e., where we agreed not to shit on each other for no good reason). It is ON like Ramadan! We had a truce? Really? And if you consider THAT shitting on you for no good reason and not, well, a fucking JOKE, you should invest in a thicker skin. Surely some poor person has one you could buy cheap. This is the second time you’ve gotten all butthurt over a joke. Maybe the Pit isn’t for you, eh? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/74 "2009-07-30T03:50:50Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > While “Randian” may denote admiration of Rand, Objectivism is the name of the philosophy, not “Randianism,” which is what that other maroon said. Don’t try to take a bullet for him. He doesn’t repay kindness with kindness, as I found out the hard way. I’m not taking a bullet for anyone. He used the term in direct reply to me and “Randian” and “Objectivist” are not completely synonymous. I used the first term, not the second. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/75 "2009-07-30T03:52:28Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > They are inevitably puffed-up, pontificating blowhards who consider themselves smarter than everyone else in the room So pretty much “this town aint big enough for the both of us!” ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/76 "2009-07-30T03:54:53Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I’m not taking a bullet for anyone. He used the term in direct reply to me and “Randian” and “Objectivist” are not completely synonymous. I used the first term, not the second. I didn’t call _you_ a moron, did I? And I was kidding around with old Rover, I guess I do need to point that out lest even more people take offense at a whole lot of nothing, really. Randianism and Objectivism are essentially the same thing. [Objectivism](http://www.ismbook.com/randianism.html) is what it’s usually called. Don’t ask me why I know this. I’d really rather forget. But anyway, yeah, bullshit by any other name… ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/77 "2009-07-30T04:15:56Z")
I think you should all have a Dope-fest but with no usernames and no name tags. You meet up in a room at a bar that has been set aside for dopers, you get in by knowing a password that has been published in a thread on the SDMB. Then once you’re in, there’s just a group of people, you don’t know who’s who and have no preconceptions about anyone, you’re forced to take people at face value. Sure some of you will have met before so you’ll be at an advantage. Free drink for someone who correctly guesses the username of someone else. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/78 "2009-07-30T04:17:58Z")
[quote=“1920s Style “Death Ray”, post:77, topic:504734”] Free drink for someone who correctly guesses the username of someone else. [/QUOTE] Hi, I’m Frank. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/79 "2009-07-30T04:29:41Z")
Maybe I’m just fortunate, but I’ve never met anyone like **Rand Rover** in real life. So I’ll have to assume that he isn’t really exactly as his persona on these message boards. So if I lived close enough, I might be tempted to just stop by out of curiosity to check it out. Isn’t anyone else curious? ETA: Oh yeah, and he seems entertaining enough to carry a lot of threads here, so that’s something. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/80 "2009-07-30T05:06:25Z")
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