# Rand Rover, you want to associate with us? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 30, 2009, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734 "2009-07-30T01:09:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/81 "2009-07-30T14:49:20Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > Whatever else people have to say about anarchists, at least we’re never dull and we know how to fucking party. Amen, brother. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/82 "2009-07-30T14:51:11Z")
Yeah I’d meet with Rand Rover, but my condition is that he come to New York, or at least pay for my fare to get to Chicago. I have friends in Chicago. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/83 "2009-07-30T15:03:02Z")
Having had people crashing wall to wall on the floor of my apartment for a dopefest has killed the novelty for me. People getting smashed and pretending that they are old friends with a stilted camaraderie for two or three days. People fucking in your shower then lying to you about it. Yeah, good times, good times. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/84 "2009-07-30T15:06:35Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > Randroids are some of the most boring and annoying people I have ever met. In fact I can’t recall ever associating with a Randroid I didn’t loathe in the first 5 minutes. They are inevitably puffed-up, pontificating blowhards who consider themselves smarter than everyone else in the room, and will bore you for hours with boasts about their financial success and material possessions. They’re Patrick Bateman from American Psycho, only with bad haircuts and their sociopathy couched in faux-irony because they’re physical cowards. You couldn’t pay me to socialize with someone I knew in advance was a Randroid. > > Whatever else people have to say about anarchists, at least we’re never dull and we know how to fucking party. I endorse this message. 😉 Anarchists are much more likely to be hot and go skinny dipping with you. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/85 "2009-07-30T15:30:00Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Good question. Very good question. > > Chicago is just a bit far for a day trip. He’d have to pay for my hotel too. Throw in the plane ticket too, and I’m in. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/86 "2009-07-30T15:46:37Z")
[quote=“1920s Style “Death Ray”, post:77, topic:504734”] Free drink for someone who correctly guesses the username of someone else. [/QUOTE] Hello, I’m Eleanor-- 🙂 **Heffalump** : you are truly fortunate. Lemme introduce you to my SIL’s husband sometime. He makes **RR** look like Mr Rogers. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/87 "2009-07-30T16:11:42Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > NO!! You take that back!!! I do NOT have a secret crush on Guinistasia, please stop insisting that I do!! I do NOT have a “sex with an epileptic” fetish for gods’ sakes, that is gross!!! I would NOT risk my family and career just to steal her used panties, you pervert, stop saying that!!! Ok, that was amusing. I’d have a drink with you. I’m nowhere near Chicago, and don’t plan to be in the forseeable future, but I think I understand where you’re coming from. Life isn’t worth living if everyone around you holds all the same opinions and shares most of the same experiences. Being pushed out of your comfort zone is how you grow. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/88 "2009-07-30T17:26:18Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > Randroids are some of the most boring and annoying people I have ever met. In fact I can’t recall ever associating with a Randroid I didn’t loathe in the first 5 minutes. They are inevitably puffed-up, pontificating blowhards who consider themselves smarter than everyone else in the room, and will bore you for hours with boasts about their financial success and material possessions. They’re Patrick Bateman from American Psycho, only with bad haircuts and their sociopathy couched in faux-irony because they’re physical cowards. You couldn’t pay me to socialize with someone I knew in advance was a Randroid. Aw, you’re just sore 'cause nobody even _pretends_ to wanna meet you. ---
**Author:** ![pantheon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6bbea6/32.png) [@pantheon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pantheon)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/89 "2009-07-30T18:01:12Z")
The other night I was watching the original Airplane! and had forgotten about the media reaction montage. When the “Counterpoint” guy came on and said "Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash. ", I immediately thought of Rand Rover and laughed out loud in my empty house. I would buy him a drink for this alone. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/90 "2009-07-30T18:09:15Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Having had people crashing wall to wall on the floor of my apartment for a dopefest has killed the novelty for me. > > People getting smashed and pretending that they are old friends with a stilted camaraderie for two or three days. People fucking in your shower then lying to you about it. > > Yeah, good times, good times. 😉 They never lied to me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/91 "2009-07-30T18:11:51Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I’m no Randroid, pal. For one, I ain’t so sure that the Aynster actually conquered the “is-ought” problem You’re not so sure? Really? I mean, _really_? She didn’t even come close. So good of you to admit grudgingly what is reasonably obvious. But hey, it’s progress I guess. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/92 "2009-07-30T18:13:51Z")
If you guys do meet up at a Dopefest can I come and watch? Hell, I could sell tickets! ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/93 "2009-07-30T18:24:47Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Isn’t it entirely possible that internet persona and the real person behind it are completely different things? I don’t really get this. It’s like saying someone’s phone personality is different from their real-life self. Whether you’re communicating by ones and zeroes, ink on a page, vibrated air molecules, or Morse Code, you are who you are. And for my money, the kind of real-life person who would just pretend to be an asshole on the Internet is, in real life, an asshole. Pretending to be an asshole is an asshole move. I’ve seen people use this excuse before, as if somehow it means they’re not a dick in real life. If you’re a dick on the Internet, you’re a dick. Just like if you’re a dick on the airwaves, or you’re a dick in face-to-face meetings, you’re a dick. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/94 "2009-07-30T18:35:34Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I don’t really get this. It’s like saying someone’s phone personality is different from their real-life self. Whether you’re communicating by ones and zeroes, ink on a page, vibrated air molecules, or Morse Code, you are who you are. > > And for my money, the kind of real-life person who would just pretend to be an asshole on the Internet is, in real life, an asshole. Pretending to be an asshole is an asshole move. > > I’ve seen people use this excuse before, as if somehow it means they’re not a dick in real life. If you’re a dick on the Internet, you’re a dick. Just like if you’re a dick on the airwaves, or you’re a dick in face-to-face meetings, you’re a dick. Maybe you’re right, but I was kind of referring to people whom undoubtedly adopt “alter-ego” personas for anonymous use on the internet as a means of venting, relieving stress, etc. While this may be a “dick move” or have less than honest intentions, the actual person in real life may be the antithesis of the person they portray anonymously on the intertubez. As in, if you didn’t know Person X was playing at Rand Rover by night because they don’t act that way at all in real life when you met them. I see your point though. I generally try to conduct myself pretty much the same way on a messageboard as I do were I talking to someone in person, but I am sure that some people do as I described above. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/95 "2009-07-30T18:39:36Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Isn’t that thread about universal health care? And curlcoat? And Guinastasia? Mostly. It appears to be mostly about RR now, or at least not as much about me. I guess I win at the interwebz then :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/96 "2009-07-30T18:50:11Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > That, which I wasn’t going to bring up, but now that you mention it… and you are obviously incredibly jealous of curlcoat because she’s twice as aggravating as you are, without even meaning to be, while you spend all this energy and still FAIL. She’s still the Queen, and you are just her knave. Quit trying to take credit for her awesome power to turn any thread into a 40 page trainwreck. It ain’t all about you, dog. While I appreciate your, um, support, I’ve posted to some 100 threads and I think only one made it to 40 pages. And I certainly cannot take all the credit for that one… ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/97 "2009-07-30T18:55:15Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I don’t really get this. It’s like saying someone’s phone personality is different from their real-life self. Whether you’re communicating by ones and zeroes, ink on a page, vibrated air molecules, or Morse Code, you are who you are. > > And for my money, the kind of real-life person who would just pretend to be an asshole on the Internet is, in real life, an asshole. Pretending to be an asshole is an asshole move. > > I’ve seen people use this excuse before, as if somehow it means they’re not a dick in real life. If you’re a dick on the Internet, you’re a dick. Just like if you’re a dick on the airwaves, or you’re a dick in face-to-face meetings, you’re a dick. I don’t have a quarrel with any of your general principles. I agree people are who they are and the idea that we should overlook acts of assholery just because they’re perpetrated in a specific medium is dubious at best. On the other hand, I’d add the caveat that message board interactions provide a very limited view of a person and we owe it to ourselves, if we wish to claim we are open minded and accepting people, to give that person a chance in other mediums. It distresses me to say this, but I have to caveat my caveat and say it is clear we should not use this principle to do something stupid like show up somewhere to meet someone who has threatened us online. I may be accepting and tolerant, but I’m not stupid. On basis of the flawed medium in which we communicate through message boards, I’m inclined to give people the benefit of the doubt when it comes to in-face meetings. On the other hand, certain interactions make me eager for such a meeting, and others make me reluctant for such, and this is completely rational to me. Being told I should discount this judgment because “it’s just words on a screen” seems ludicrous. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/98 "2009-07-30T19:31:32Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > I’ve seen people use this excuse before, as if somehow it means they’re not a dick in real life. If you’re a dick on the Internet, you’re a dick. Just like if you’re a dick on the airwaves, or you’re a dick in face-to-face meetings, you’re a dick. What if they are a dick in the Pit, but not IMHO? Being a dick is part of the ethos in the Pit. It seems a little overstated to say that if I am a dick on the SDMB, I must be a dick IRL. I’m not even a dick on the SDMB. At least, not all the time. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/99 "2009-07-30T19:41:30Z")
> [@Maeglin](#): > > They never lied to me. 🙂 LOL, well they didn’t lie to me in that their lie was entirely transparent. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734/100 "2009-07-30T19:46:53Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > If you guys do meet up at a Dopefest can I come and watch? Hell, I could sell tickets! I hope they take a camera. But a wide angle lens is required if you want to get his head in it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rover-you-want-to-associate-with-us/504734.md?page=6)