# Rand Rover's a non-tipping, SUV-driving, Republican, picky-eater fatty who hovers over toilet seats **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 12, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259 "2010-03-12T17:06:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/21 "2010-03-12T20:18:05Z")
Oh thank god! It just isn’t the Pit if there isn’t a pitting of Rand Rover on page 1. Now everything is right with the world again. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/22 "2010-03-12T20:48:08Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I’m middle class. So, if I start acting like a billionaire, money will fall from the sky? Not from the sky, from the government. > [@](#): > > [It’s not about behavior. It’s about government policies.](http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10068/1041225-28.stm#ixzz0htxgLop4) Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/23 "2010-03-12T20:58:33Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > Oh thank god! It just isn’t the Pit if there isn’t a pitting of Rand Rover on page 1. Now everything is right with the world again. I’ll feel better after someone starts the quarterly lissener Pitting. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/24 "2010-03-12T21:04:04Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > I demand a pile-on. NOW! This MFer doesn’t even know what an [enchilada](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12215699&postcount=708) is. :mad: I KNOW you di’n’t! I can take all the rest of it, but this is just too much MOL. You have thrown down the gauntlet. Also, I would like to add that I would never order milk in a bar, and I think it’s a weird thing to do. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/25 "2010-03-12T21:08:06Z")
> [@dre2xl](#): > > 1. What does having a $5 net worth have to do with averages? A $5 net worth is something you’d expect of Haiti, not a first world country. Is the U.S. really a first world country anymore? I’m not so sure. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/26 "2010-03-12T21:17:47Z")
> [@dre2xl](#): > > Heh. Granted, I could be totally misinterpreting his intent of that one particular post. > > What actually pisses me off is his general ongoing attitude of “every bit of misfortune is 100% the individual’s responsibility, therefore it can’t happen to me” which is obviously borne from a coping mechanism to deal with a fear of failure, but I picked the wrong post to represent that. It’s a total and complete twisting of individualism – IMO, a big part of individualism is preparing for the worst. Rand Rover will be the first one to beg for socialism if Ayn Rand came back to life and became dictator. > > I’ll readily admit that I picked the total wrong post to express my outrage. I should’ve picked the enchilada post instead. Let me let you in on a little secret–you’re an idiot. I’ve argued against your very thesis in other threads because it’s just not true. It’s a figment of your imagination. You are pitting a character you created in your head based extremely loosely on some of the ideas I’ve posted about. Nothing you’ve said accurately reflects how I feel about personal responsibility. If it helps you understand my position any, note that I fully endorse everything Shot From Guns says in her Hey Fatties thread. You’ll find many arguments from idiots in that thread that are similar to your argument (hell, you probably posted some of them). Why don’t you spend the rest of the afternoon reading all of my prior posts–you’ll be a better person for it. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/27 "2010-03-12T21:26:01Z")
Here in a monute Der Trihs’s dumb ass will drop by and tell all of you that I said “the weak shall perish.” Which is true, kinda. He will refuse to explain the context, which shows that what I said was that some people will just sit there and die no matter how much assistance they are given. And then Duke will stop by. The first half of his post will completely mischaracterize something I’ve said, and the second half will ask a question based on that mischaracterization. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/28 "2010-03-12T21:43:54Z")
I knew it! First time I look in the pit all day, I see a **Rand Rover** pit thread. And the guy is _still_ obsessed with me. Surprised he didn’t throw a “liberal douche” my way…I’m rather disappointed with that. Actually, **Rand** , if I were to say you were an intelligent, generous guy who wrote thought-provoking posts, _that_ would be a mischaracterization. As it stands, though, I don’t think you’re fat or a picky-eater, so the OP is probably mistaken. But I don’t want to know if you hover over toilet seats. And you’re wrong about the enchilada. If **MeanOldLady** says it was an enchilada, you better be goddamn sure it was an enchilada, even if the thing was on Wonder Bread. ---
**Author:** ![Caffeine.addict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@Caffeine.addict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caffeine.addict)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/29 "2010-03-12T21:44:33Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > I demand a pile-on. NOW! This MFer doesn’t even know what an [enchilada](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12215699&postcount=708) is. :mad: Shit. I think that you better pit me as well. How is that much different from a soft shelled taco and a burrito (other than the way it is wrapped)? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/30 "2010-03-12T21:56:12Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > If **MeanOldLady** says it was an enchilada, you better be goddamn sure it was an enchilada, even if the thing was on Wonder Bread. You see this sandwich I’m eating? No, you don’t, because it’s an enchilada. > [@Caffeine.addict](#): > > Shit. I think that you better pit me as well. How is that much different from a soft shelled taco and a burrito (other than the way it is wrapped)? It’s all food wrapped in a tortilla, but an enchilada isn’t close on the ends, is baked, and covered in sauce and cheese. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/31 "2010-03-12T22:11:31Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > I knew it! First time I look in the pit all day, I see a **Rand Rover** pit thread. And the guy is _still_ obsessed with me. Surprised he didn’t throw a “liberal douche” my way…I’m rather disappointed with that. A liberal douche is the only effective kind. A conservative douche, by contrast, generally fails to solve the underlying problem. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/32 "2010-03-12T22:21:41Z")
> [@Caffeine.addict](#): > > Shit. I think that you better pit me as well. How is that much different from a soft shelled taco and a burrito (other than the way it is wrapped)? IME, burritos contain rice and beans, tacos do not. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/33 "2010-03-12T22:35:12Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I’m middle class. So, if I start acting like a billionaire, money will fall from the sky? > > Just messing with you 😉 Well, yeah if you go acting like the way billionaires act before they become billionares. Inventing shit, creating multi-billion dollar businesses and investing wisely and whatnot. You might not become a billionare, but you’ll probably do well enough. If you act “middle class” - get an average education, take an average job for some average company in Averagetown, USA, you’ll probably stay about middle class. And so on and so forth. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/34 "2010-03-12T22:43:14Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Why don’t you spend the rest of the afternoon reading all of my prior posts–you’ll be a better person for it. Ah-hahahahahahahahahahahhahaa. … oh, mercy. Good one, that. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/35 "2010-03-12T23:04:43Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Is the U.S. really a first world country anymore? I’m not so sure. Well, having the world’s largest economy (in spite of everything), best military, high standard of living, the freedoms that we enjoy…I’d say yes. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/36 "2010-03-12T23:27:12Z")
> [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > IME, burritos contain rice and beans, tacos do not. Christ almighty. People pit me, with my brilliant ideas that would be make the world a better place if all were to adopt them, and leave people like TDG, who has no clue about Mexican food, to post their gibberish unmolested. Someone please molest TDG, FFS. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/37 "2010-03-12T23:30:30Z")
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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/38 "2010-03-12T23:44:20Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Christ almighty. People pit me, with my brilliant ideas that would be make the world a better place if all were to adopt them, and leave people like TDG, who has no clue about Mexican food, to post their gibberish unmolested. Someone please molest TDG, FFS. Thank you. You’re both wrong about Mexican food, and should be pitted accordingly! ---
**Author:** ![dre2xl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@dre2xl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dre2xl)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/39 "2010-03-12T23:58:29Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Nothing you’ve said accurately reflects how I feel about personal responsibility. If it helps you understand my position any, note that I fully endorse everything Shot From Guns says in her Hey Fatties thread. Since that thread was mentioned, let me ask you a question: do you believe Americans are inherently more lacking in personal responsibility & self-discipline than Canadians, Europeans, and other first-world countries? ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/40 "2010-03-13T00:22:26Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Well, having the world’s largest economy (in spite of everything), best military, high standard of living, the freedoms that we enjoy…I’d say yes. High standard of living for some people, anyway. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259.md?page=3)