# Rand Rover's a non-tipping, SUV-driving, Republican, picky-eater fatty who hovers over toilet seats

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 12, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259 "2010-03-12T17:06:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/81 "2010-03-14T04:03:09Z")

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> [@Rack-a-Bones](#):
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> And I have to throw in the obligatory “I love this place comment.” A pitting of a non-tipping, SUV-driving, Republican, picky-eater fatty who hovers over toilet seats turns into a discussion regarding enchiladas. Priceless. Could you beat someone to death with a two pound unfrozen enchilada?

Is it take out? 'Cause we’re gonna need a plastic bag.

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**Author:** ![elelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@elelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelle)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/82 "2010-03-14T04:18:58Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> The notion of grinding up **Rand Rover** to make enchiladas is…unacceptable. If there is no Pit rule against it, I suggest we make one up right now.

Damn straight, 'Luc, glad you’re such an upstanding citizen. Soylent pinatas, on the other hand, are appropriate for many the festive occassion.

Oh… Woot.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/83 "2010-03-14T15:45:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Rand Rover’s a non-tipping, SUV-driving, Republican, picky-eater **fatty** who hovers over toilet seats

This is the Straight Dope. That would be “fatty basher”. You might want to add “cat declawer” while you’re at it.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/84 "2010-03-14T15:57:20Z")

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> [@elelle](#):
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> Damn straight, 'Luc, glad you’re such an upstanding citizen. Soylent pinatas, on the other hand, are appropriate for many the festive occassion.
> 
> Oh… Woot.

I don’t know… Is Rand in finance?

Mrs Lovett: Try the banker  
Sweeney: Too rich

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**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/85 "2010-03-14T19:41:32Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Ok.
> 
> [Here’s the list of all 937 billionares in the world.](http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/10/billionaires-2010_The-Worlds-Billionaires_Rank.html) Show me which ones.

Yes, cause all the billionaire arms dealers make sure to get themselves profiled in forbes.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/86 "2010-03-14T23:00:52Z")

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> [@elmwood](#):
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> This is the Straight Dope. That would be “fatty basher”. You might want to add “cat declawer” while you’re at it.

To be perfextly honest, I am a fat fatty basher. You see, I have a glandular condition–every other fatty lacks personal responsibility.

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**Author:** ![Remarkable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@Remarkable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Remarkable)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/87 "2010-03-15T03:23:53Z")

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RR…

Don’t you get bored? My general dislike, as I can’t quite work up to anything else, for you being such a twat isn’t necessarily about the ignorant drivel you come up with, but the fact that it’s relentless.

Don’t you have another hobby? Or did people think you were a wanker there (wherever) as well?

Has anyone posted a “Should Rand Rover just Fuck Off?” poll yet? …please direct me to it.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/88 "2010-03-15T12:26:06Z")

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> [@Cosmic Relief](#):
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> Yes, it’s inevitable that some individual person has to be on the bottom. Or that certain regions might be getting hard hit economically. But when it’s an entire group of people who have nothing in common except their race and gender, you don’t find that fishy in the least? You don’t find it odd that even when black people are a numeric minority in the country, they always seem to end up heavily represented in the statistical category of “people who are screwed”? This is not remarkable to you?

No, not in the slightest. Because something else that this demographic has in common is a set of behaviors - not always, but commonly.

It is not politically correct to say so, but it is nonetheless true - poor blacks in the US are poor because they did things (or their parents did things) that caused them to be, and remain, poor. It has little or nothing to do with racism.

That Liu person in the article of the other thread’s OP is wrong - this has everything to do with behavior, and nothing to do with government relief programs. A black woman who behaves like a middle-class person - delay gratification, don’t have children until you are married, don’t hook up with some fuckhead with a criminal record and no job, etc. - is no more likely to wind up poor than anyone else, of any race.

Everybody knows this, but the race pimps deny it, because it threatens their lip lock on the public teat and their trump card excuse for every failing.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/89 "2010-03-15T12:59:30Z")

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> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#):
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> Well sure, but is the tortilla in which it’s wrapped open or closed on the ends?

You’re thinking of the Post, which is wrapped in win, topped with win and smothered in win sauce.

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**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/90 "2010-03-15T14:08:04Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> … poor blacks in the US are poor because they did things (or their parents did things) that caused them to be, and remain, poor. It has little or nothing to do with racism. …

What is wrong with these people? Broke into baseball in '47, got the vote in '64 and people are still making excuses for them.

> [@](#):
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> A black woman who behaves like a middle-class person - delay gratification, don’t have children until you are married, don’t hook up with some fuckhead with a criminal record and no job, etc. - is no more likely to wind up poor than anyone else, of any race. ..
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Again, right on. We need middle-class modeling schools for these people.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/91 "2010-03-15T14:19:29Z")

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> [@adhay](#):
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> What is wrong with these people? Broke into baseball in '47, got the vote in '64 and people are still making excuses for them.
> 
> Again, right on. We need middle-class modeling schools for these people.

Both these statements are quite correct.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/92 "2010-03-15T16:09:30Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Both these statements are quite correct.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

How long have you been a racist prick, Herr Shodan?

Regards,

Kiss My Ass

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/93 "2010-03-15T16:18:20Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Mexican cooking, American ingredients. I once ate a street vendor tamale in Hermosillo, a decision I profoundly regretted for about three days.

Street vendors can be gamey. The sendentary life of the mall-based vendor leads to a more tender cut, I suggest that.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/94 "2010-03-15T16:35:08Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> No, not in the slightest. Because something else that this demographic has in common is a set of behaviors - not always, but commonly.
> 
> It is not politically correct to say so, but it is nonetheless true - poor blacks in the US are poor because they did things (or their parents did things) that caused them to be, and remain, poor. It has little or nothing to do with racism.

Sharecropping certainly did make their parents poor. What were they thinking?

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/95 "2010-03-15T17:02:52Z")

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Interesting twist. I don’t recall anyone ever coming in and stealing the “Raving Asshole” role from Rand before. I follow with interest.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/96 "2010-03-15T17:19:35Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Sharecropping certainly did make their parents poor. What were they thinking?

So you think that black women from 36 to 49 have a median net worth of $5 because their parents were sharecroppers.

Are you _really_ a moron, or do you just play one on TV?

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/97 "2010-03-15T17:20:28Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> How long have you been a racist prick, Herr Shodan?

I think you misunderstand **Shodan**. He’s not racist at all. In fact, it’s clear that he has a real affection for “those people”, regardless of race and would like to help them better their lot in the American Ream.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/98 "2010-03-15T17:51:57Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> So you think that black women from 36 to 49 have a median net worth of $5 because their parents were sharecroppers.

It certainly helps.

> [@](#):
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> Are you really a moron, or do you just play one on TV?

I’d auditioning for an biographical piece on you. Coincidence abounds!

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**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/99 "2010-03-15T17:53:21Z")

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> [@adhay](#):
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> I think you misunderstand **Shodan**. He’s not racist at all. In fact, it’s clear that he has a real affection for “those people”, regardless of race and would like to help them better their lot in the American Ream.

The American Ream ended on November 4, 2008.\*

- well, sort of

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**Author:** ![adhay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@adhay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adhay)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rand-rovers-a-non-tipping-suv-driving-republican-picky-eater-fatty-who-hovers-over-toilet-seats/532259/100 "2010-03-15T18:11:51Z")

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> [@Rack-a-Bones](#):
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> The American Ream ended on November 4, 2008.\*
> 
> - well, sort of

Sort of, indeed.

The Ream has been in effect since we ran out of frontier and the indigenous Americans had nothing left to steal. It was then that we turned loose the US military to plunder the developing world … Iraq and Afghanistan are the natural extensions this policy which has continued unabated since the Spanish-American War. The domestic face of this policy is, of course, corporate ‘personhood’ which literally owns the govt. The foreign and domestic philosophies are the same: make as much as you can and buy or shoot anyone who gets in the way.

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