# Random graph terminology. Math geeks, please.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-graph-terminology-math-geeks-please/186798>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 7, 2003, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-graph-terminology-math-geeks-please/186798 "2003-07-07T16:37:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-graph-terminology-math-geeks-please/186798/1 "2003-07-07T16:37:34Z")

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Ok, Erdos’ original use of the probablistic method for graphs uses G(n,p=.5) where G has n vertices and any two are adjacent with probability .5. When this is generalized to G(n,p), is this called an Erdos-Szerkes random graph? Is there terminology for this basic class of random graphs?

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**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-graph-terminology-math-geeks-please/186798/2 "2003-07-07T16:51:21Z")

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Oops! Wrong forum. Mods please? To GQ?

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**Author:** ![John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Kentzel-Griffin)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-graph-terminology-math-geeks-please/186798/3 "2003-07-07T18:04:09Z")

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Off to GQ.

**DrMatrix** - Moderator

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-graph-terminology-math-geeks-please/186798/4 "2003-07-07T21:16:31Z")

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-graph-terminology-math-geeks-please/186798/5 "2003-07-07T21:42:05Z")

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Just saw this, but have to head home. Later…

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-graph-terminology-math-geeks-please/186798/6 "2003-07-07T23:13:04Z")

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I think that’s the **Erdös-Rényi** random graph G(n,p). See [here](http://math.ucsd.edu/~vanvu/papers/random.html), for instance. In general, Erdös’ name seems to be linked with Rényi’s in the random-graph literature; at least, that’s what turns up when I Google “random graph” together with “Erdös”.

The [Erdös-Szekeres Theorem](http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Erdos-SzekeresTheorem.html), which you may have gotten names confused with, is something different, although they seem to have sprung from the same root, in a way.

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**Author:** ![Digital\_Stimulus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Digital\_Stimulus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Digital_Stimulus)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2003, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-graph-terminology-math-geeks-please/186798/7 "2003-07-07T23:19:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RTFirefly \*  
> **I think that’s the Erdös-Rényi random graph G(n,p).**

Exactly right. There’s some neat research going on right now by Barabasi (for instance, see [http://www.science.nd.edu/physics/Faculty/barabasi.html](http://www.science.nd.edu/physics/Faculty/barabasi.html) and [http://human-nature.com/nibbs/02/linked.html](http://human-nature.com/nibbs/02/linked.html)), not to mention Watts (see [http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/6768.html](http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/6768.html) and [http://smallworld.sociology.columbia.edu/watts.html](http://smallworld.sociology.columbia.edu/watts.html)).

I’d recommend Barabasi’s book Linked for an interesting and accessible read (though light on actual graph theory).

Kramer

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**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2003, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-graph-terminology-math-geeks-please/186798/8 "2003-07-08T17:30:22Z")

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Woah man. I’m reading a paper of Barabasi’s on scale-free graphs right now (not a huge coincidence).

Thanks, guys. Erd"os-R’enyi is exactly right. Now, how the hell do you do accents?

The Erdos-Szerkes Theorem is one of those things that needn’t really a namesake, like De Morgan’s Laws and crap like that. I’ll have to smack my supervisor for calling them Erdos-Szerkes.
