# Random Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942 "2010-03-18T21:47:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/361 "2010-03-23T03:13:34Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > and i really don’t get why on this board my playstyle is deemed to be anti town. i made the comment on idle’s board and i will make it again. too many folks want orderly nonsense to be the play of the day. that’s what scum want. predictability that can be manipulated. it’s why i said what i said about power rolls (cloverleaf preferrably). town have gotten too accustomed to letting shit come to them as opposed to let’s take it to the scum, fgs. I don’t think many people are complaining about your style of play. It’s your style of communicating. If you’re going to claim something, do you think it benefits the Town if it take pages of discussion to get everyone to understand what you’ve claimed? Do you think it benefits Town if not everyone understands what you’re telling us? Remember when you claimed Mason in the previous game. I understood you. I dare say most other players didn’t understand you at the time. And I was Scum, so the Scum knew you were claiming mason, and many in the Town didn’t. The same is true in this game. Granted the name claims appear to be completely unimportant, but it still helps Town if you make it easier for us to understand you. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/362 "2010-03-23T03:17:42Z")
unbelievable cross post. i’ll give you everything you say except, that i win regardless of alignment. either scum or not i really do have a plan. unless … i get taken out early. and i assume you know that you were the one sucker that we were scared of. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/363 "2010-03-23T03:23:05Z")
Here’s what some people consider “peeker’s claim” > [@Zeriel](#): > > Are you making a joke, or are you just suicidal? > > **vote peekercpa** for blatantly anti-town play. > [@peekercpa](#): > > hey this should help **z** > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxevBjM0l7I](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxevBjM0l7I) To me, it was a you tube clip from the Wizard of Oz in defense of his vote for storyteller. No where did peeker say it was his role. It did occur after only I had claimed. Then, in post 164, he post a picture of Elizabeth Berkley. then, finally, after the 11th claim comes this: > [@peekercpa](#): > > > [@Zeriel](#): > > > > Are you making a joke, or are you just suicidal? > > > > **vote peekercpa** for blatantly anti-town play. > > > [@peekercpa](#): > > > > hey this should help **z** > > > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxevBjM0l7I](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxevBjM0l7I) > > yeh, i claimed early because i am scum (not) and chose the wicked witch of the west. that sure instills a lot of town confidence i am sure. so yep claim order and a buck gets you coffee at mickey d’s. > > and crud **z** are you really that obtuse? > two guys are in an eleveator. > > one guy turns to the other and says: “ok, who farted?” > > get it. It looks a little more suspicious when place in context. The first reference to the wicked witch really does not appear to be a claim at all. Was peeker hesitant to claim since it looked like an ‘evil’ character? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/364 "2010-03-23T03:26:15Z")
**Chronos** , my bad. It pretty much is a vanilla claim. I guess I just figured that since this game is so cryptic, we might as well be up front. Plus, I figured it’s not like I was giving away special info I did have–like giving a away a power role would be bad. I also think that voting for **TexCat** for voting for **peeker** is weird. He genuinely is the most scummy person but then again he’s ALWAYS the most scummy person. Not to be totally meta, but **vote red skeeviz** ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/365 "2010-03-23T03:27:16Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > OK, back home with my notes. It’s funny, just the act of taking the notes helps me pay better attention to the game. > > A few points: First, a few pages back, [from Freudian, post 270](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12249599&postcount=270):That looks to me like a vanilla claim, and **Freudian** is a good enough player that she should know better than to claim a role, even just vanilla, without reason. Care to explain? > > Moving on: I’m currently voting for someone for making a weak vote. But then **peeker** goes and [votes TexCat](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12254274&postcount=346), apparently for trying to make sense of his gibberish (which it looks to me like he’s saying we should all be doing), saying that in doing so TexCat mischaracterized him. Well, **peeker** , when you make yourself hard to understand, it’s inevitable that some folks will understand you incorrectly. Nor is it just a matter that that’s just the way he is: He’s proven in previous games that he _is_ able to write coherently; he just apparently chooses for some reason not to. Given that all **Wanderers** did was cast a weak vote, but that **peeker** has both cast a weak vote and is adding considerably to the noise in the thread, I think the latter is a better lynch right now. > > **Unvote Wanderers > Vote peeker** > > Moving yet further along, I’m also suspicious of **Guiri**. [He says](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12254260&postcount=345) that peeker was the second to claim, but the earliest point at which **peeker** could be said to have claimed was [post 174](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12244767&postcount=174), by which time **special ed** (140), **Freudian Slit** (154), **Tom Scud** (155), **Oredigger** (156), **NAF** (157), **Red Skeezix** (159), **TexCat** (160), **Chronos** (161), **Mahaloth** (162), **Drain Bead** (166), and **Meeko** (168) had all claimed. I’m having a hard time seeing why anyone would defend **peeker** on this point, so I’m also suspicious of **Guiri**. uh, dude 152. that number seems to be less than the others that you reference. so are you confused or just making stuff up. or are you just kind of fabricating stuff to justify a vote? serious question. are you just concluding something because you are wrong or are you just trying to manufacture a reason for a vote? the first is kind of maybe weakly justifiable in a crappy non town way, the second is kind of like scummy. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/366 "2010-03-23T03:29:36Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > **Chronos** , my bad. It pretty much is a vanilla claim. I guess I just figured that since this game is so cryptic, we might as well be up front. Plus, I figured it’s not like I was giving away special info I did have–like giving a away a power role would be bad. > > I also think that voting for **TexCat** for voting for **peeker** is weird. He genuinely is the most scummy person but then again he’s ALWAYS the most scummy person. Not to be totally meta, but > > **vote red skeeviz** yipee!!\* An unprovoked Day 1 Vanilla claim!!! \*This comment was intended to be sarcastic on a completely different point: um…you give a basically neutral comment on TexCat’s vote and then vote for red…um..without a reason??? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/367 "2010-03-23T03:31:52Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > on a completely different point: um…you give a basically neutral comment on TexCat’s vote and then vote for red…um..without a reason??? oh, Freudian, never mind. You mean Skeezix’s vote for Texcat was bad, and so you voted for him. that’s weak, but OK. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/368 "2010-03-23T03:31:56Z")
neta: oh that’s right you don’t pay attention to people’s posts when reading the thread. forgot about that data point. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/369 "2010-03-23T03:32:59Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > unbelievable cross post. > > i’ll give you everything you say except, that i win regardless of alignment. either scum or not i really do have a plan. > > unless … i get taken out early. > > and i assume you know that you were the one sucker that we were scared of. Who was this post directed at? and are you claiming 3rd party? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/370 "2010-03-23T03:33:19Z")
OK, in my defense, what IS so horrible about an unprovoked vanilla claim? Is it that it makes it slightly easier to find out what the power roles are, or what? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/371 "2010-03-23T03:36:39Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > OK, in my defense, what IS so horrible about an unprovoked vanilla claim? Is it that it makes it slightly easier to find out what the power roles are, or what? yes. It’s doubleplusungood Unless it’s a clever ruse to hide your power role from the Scum. In which case you have to claim to have lied when you reveal yourself. And, of course, Vanilla is the easiest Scum fake claim. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/372 "2010-03-23T03:41:21Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Who was this post directed at? > > and are you claiming 3rd party? where in the world is that coming from? it was directed you. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/373 "2010-03-23T03:42:25Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > unbelievable cross post. > > i’ll give you everything you say except, that i win regardless of alignment. either scum or not i really do have a plan. > > unless … i get taken out early. > > and i assume you know that you were the one sucker that we were scared of. This is all in reference to previous games that I don’t know about, is that correct? I feel like I’ve said the same thing at the same point in each of the few games I’ve played in, but damn if it doesn’t feel like town is just doing a lot of shooting itself right in the bung. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/374 "2010-03-23T03:43:13Z")
shoot i was just making an observation that when i make it to end game my team wins a lot. of course, that is also a kind of stupid thing to say because if you are still around at end game then, duh, your team is still in it. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/375 "2010-03-23T03:43:14Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > where in the world is that coming from? it was directed you. Here’s what you said. I have no idea what the cross post was. I’ve underlined the part that appear to be a 3rd party claim, unless you are referencing something you aren’t referencing in your post. > [@peekercpa](#): > > unbelievable cross post. > > i’ll give you everything you say except, that i win regardless of alignment. either scum or not i really do have a plan. > > unless … i get taken out early. > > and i assume you know that you were the one sucker that we were scared of. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/376 "2010-03-23T03:43:47Z")
Okay. I mean, I get that it was bad–I just wanted to be as transparent about my role/character/whatever claim as possible in the interest of exposing as much info. I get that it was probably a bad idea to go that far, though. > [@peekercpa](#): > > unbelievable cross post. > > i’ll give you everything you say except, that i win regardless of alignment. either scum or not i really do have a plan. > > unless … i get taken out early. > > and i assume you know that you were the one sucker that we were scared of. So are you saying you’re a third party or…what? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/377 "2010-03-23T04:03:06Z")
as **ed** has a stroke in the corner there is still much foosball to be played. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/378 "2010-03-23T04:03:15Z")
> [@](#): > > uh, dude 152. > > that number seems to be less than the others that you reference. so are you confused or just making stuff up. or are you just kind of fabricating stuff to justify a vote? First of all, 152 was a post by **special ed** , so I’ll assume you mean 153. Yes, I did see that post, but there’s no claim in it. At most, you could say that there’s a breadcrumb of a claim in it. But even as a breadcrumb, it’s still useless, since it’s completely indistinguishable from any other piece of random peeker noise. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/379 "2010-03-23T04:11:15Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > First of all, 152 was a post by **special ed** , so I’ll assume you mean 153. Yes, I did see that post, but there’s no claim in it. At most, you could say that there’s a breadcrumb of a claim in it. But even as a breadcrumb, it’s still useless, since it’s completely indistinguishable from any other piece of random peeker noise. AAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE. i swear to god i would go to hell’s end for you folks if needed. but right now you are in danger of being written out of the will. AAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEE ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/380 "2010-03-23T04:14:24Z")
neta: yeh, reply 152. fuck you found it. so you know what i was talking about. freaking don quixote. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=20)