# Random Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942 "2010-03-18T21:47:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/601 "2010-03-25T17:53:25Z")
After looking over the rules (from post 70, if you’d like to keep that in mind for easy reference) There don’t seem to be any restrictions on strategy talk at any time. > [@sachertorte](#): > > The game will operate on a weekly schedule. Days will start at some semi-arbitrary point during the weekend; ideally Saturday Afternoon (2PM EDT), but no later than Sunday Morning. Days will end at precisely on Thursdays at 2:00 PM EDT by the SDMB clock. Board outages will not change the end of Day; plan carefully. All votes must have a time stamp of Thursday, 1:59 PM EDT or earlier. Posts and votes with time stamps Thursday, 2:00PM EDT or later will be ignored. > > Night instructions are due by Saturday 2:00PM EDT by SDMB clock. > Failure to meet the deadline will result in no action. > > **Vote LikeThis** > Votes must be in bold blue, on a single line, by itself. Please don’t play hide the vote from the moderator. Everyone will be happier with accurate vote counts. (For strict interpretation, any vote in blue will be considered an intended vote. Bold, single line, by itself is a moderator request, not a requirement) > > **Unvote LikeThis** > Unvotes are to be made in bold red, on a single line, by itself. > > **Messages to the moderator should be in bold green, on a single line**. > The moderator encourages questions to the moderator to be sent via PM. > > Lynches will be by plurality. The leading vote-getter at 2:00PM EDT on Thursday will die. > Ties are bad. Don’t do them. > Ties will be resolved by timestamp. The tied player who received the most recent vote will live. > A No Lynch will occur if an uncontested plurality of votes accumulates for No Lynch. A tie with No Lynch will result in someone getting lynched as if the No Lynch votes didn’t exist at all. > > Substitutions/Removal: > I will allow substitutions up through the Dawn of Day Four. Past Day Four’s Dawn, missing players will be removed from the game with no public indication of role or alignment. Substitutions may happen at anytime. Removals will occur at Dusk. > > Prodding: > The moderator will not prod anyone. Failure to participate will result in substitution/removal. > > Win Condition: > Individual win conditions will not change during the course of the game. Your team wins when all threats to your team are neutralized. > There are no third parties. > > Closed Setup: > An inventory of roles will not be published. > A standard Town role PM will be public information. > > Stuff you should already know: > > - Game related communication outside the game thread is forbidden, except for scum who may communicate at Night and only at Night. > - Be nice. > - Only living players may post game relevant discussion to the game thread. > - Editing posts is not allowed. Punishment for an edited post will be removal from the game. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/602 "2010-03-25T17:54:38Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > Storyteller > > I believe the case against Kelly Criterion is based on posts [post=12248132]240[/post] to [post=12248226]243[/post] inclusove. In particular, that he “latched on” to a feeble case, then jumped off the bandwagon when he found it had no traction. to me though, it looked like it could have been someone posting as they caught up, voting when the case was presented and unvoting when the case was argued against. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/603 "2010-03-25T17:55:34Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > The skeezix vote referred to by Rysto, above. As I say, I’m not real clear on the sequence of events yet; a re-read with that in mind is necessary. Okay, sorry, I thought you thought that I was currently voting for someone else b/c of **peeker**. Yeah, the **red** thing wasn’t a great case. Looking back, to be honest, it pinged me but not enough for me to want to go through with it. I’m not voting for **peeker** for anything like, “Oh he voted story” or “He’s distracting.” What peeker did IS peekeresque but I would have voted for anyone who did that weird breadcrumbing role thing. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/604 "2010-03-25T17:55:50Z")
> [@peekercpa](#): > > oh, and just as a total aside. > > i know **story** doesn’t get to giraffe but he’s already got a vote from me over there as well. Found a natural stopping point. This close to the lynch, I wanted to be there as it happened. But Peeker, the above doesnt help you. \*\* Long and short of it : You need to be a different player in different games. One size Peeker does not fit all games. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/605 "2010-03-25T17:56:03Z")
Thank you **MHaye** for an actual helpful link instead of that bullshit I provided. **ed** , I’d say that jumping ahead to cast a vote before finishing reading the thread is the sort of thing that is way less likely if you’re town. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/606 "2010-03-25T17:58:05Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > On preview: I disagree with some of the reasoning in story’s case against Chronos. Chronos presented a flawed, not particularly well thought idea that involved town players lying. Having a bad idea isn’t scummy, supporting a bad idea once it’s been shown to be bad is. I see him doing the former and not the latter. Well, I mean, there wasn’t really a chance for him to defend the idea at all, was there? Suddenly everyone just claimed, discussion was abbreviated, so we’ll never know if he’d have held onto the idea or not (by the way, I disagree that holding onto an idea is necessarily Scummy, even if it appears to be a bad idea to some. And if you disagree, I’ll double-lyse you). But the point is, the specific contradiction in Chronos’ argument is one that strongly favored Scum. Encouraging Town roles to lie gives Scum cover to lie themselves, which completely obviates (what he was describing as) the point of the name claim. * * * The case against Kelly is interesting, I guess, and players who vanish when they’re getting heat are always of special interest, but it’s thin. Hm. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/607 "2010-03-25T17:58:19Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > **ed** , I’d say that jumping ahead to cast a vote before finishing reading the thread is the sort of thing that is way less likely if you’re town. I often post as I catch up when I get far behind. It allows me to get out my ideas before my brain gets overrun with new ideas and I forget what I’d wanted to say. I don’t think it’s a tell one way or another. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/608 "2010-03-25T17:59:20Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > **ed** , I’d say that jumping ahead to cast a vote before finishing reading the thread is the sort of thing that is way less likely if you’re town. Why, exactly? IME, scum are MORE conscientious about their actions, and less likely to act rashly then town. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/609 "2010-03-25T18:00:14Z")
So that’s it, yes. Day over? 600+ posts on Day One. So if the game goes six days, we could challenge 4,000 posts. What’s the record? ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/610 "2010-03-25T18:00:24Z")
NETA: :smack: than town, not then town:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/611 "2010-03-25T18:00:44Z")
But do you actually vote that way? It is rapidly becoming academic, anyway, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/612 "2010-03-25T18:04:01Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > But do you actually vote that way? It is rapidly becoming academic, anyway, I guess. Sometimes. And I’ve been lynched for voting rashly as town before by people who say scum is more likely to do that than town, which is a phenomenon I have yet to see. So I was wondering if you could back your statement up, or if you were just adding fluff to the kelly case. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/613 "2010-03-25T18:04:25Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > So that’s it, yes. Day over? > > 600+ posts on Day One. So if the game goes six days, we could challenge 4,000 posts. What’s the record? The Cult of Sekham, some 4,350 posts in twelve Days. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/614 "2010-03-25T18:07:03Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > Why, exactly? > > IME, scum are MORE conscientious about their actions, and less likely to act rashly then town. I suppose that is true, but I think about that more in terms of word choice and things than in terms of who to throw a vote on. What’s informing this perspective is that my policy the one time I was scum and brand new to the game was to find some reason to vote for somebody early, and let it sit there. I didn’t have to be convinced – any reason would do, as long as it allowed me to keep my head down and there was something in the thread I could point back to. So it looks very much to me like **Kelly** found a reason and jumped on it. You’ve got to vote for somebody, and getting in on something that others have brought up is always a relatively safe play. I do take your point, though. If both sides are playing optimally, a vote given on a whim is probably more likely to be from a town player. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/615 "2010-03-25T18:07:17Z")
That was messy. With surprisingly little discussion about how sucky Day One usually is, the Town just as quickly and efficiently dispensed with discussion about claims and all claimed to come from the Land of Wikipedia. With the preliminaries dispensed with unusual speed and little argument, the town meandered through the Day and decided that spreading out the votes over as many people as possible was the equitable thing to do. But lo! peekercpa, the greedy bastard, hoarded a whole four votes all for himself. Well, this simply will not do. storyteller (0): [del]peekercpa 116 201[/del] peekercpa (4): [del]Zeriel 151 190[/del], [del]TexCat 314 356[/del], Chronos 360, Meeko 383, Freudian Slit 478, Mahaloth 482 NAF1138 (0): [del]One And Only Wanderers 179 288[/del], [del]KellyCriterion 242 244[/del] One And Only Wanderers (0): [del]Chronos 180 360[/del], [del]Jimmy Chitwood 184[/del], [del]Meeko 220 291[/del] Mahaloth (0): [del]Meeko 291 298[/del] KellyCriterion (3): NAF1138 313, Jimmy Chitwood 484, Tom Scud 571 TexCat (1): Red Skeezix 316, [del]Tom Scud 328 571[/del], [del]peekercpa 346 450[/del] Oredigger77 (1): Drain Bead 347 Red Skeezix (1): TexCat 356, [del]Freudian Slit 364 478[/del] Chronos (3): [del]storyteller0910 416 564[/del], peekercpa 450, storyteller 590, MHaye 591 Drain Bead (2): Zeriel 560, special ed 565 Zeriel (1): [del]storyteller0910 564 567[/del], One And Only Wanderers 570 Rysto (1): GuiriEnEspaña 576 Freudian Slit (1): Rysto 577 Not Voting (2) : KellyCriterion, Oredigger77 **peekercpa** , ( **Witch** ) is dead. All Night Actions are due by 2:00PM EDT 27 March 2010 via SDMB PM. The timestamp must read 1:59PM or earlier to be valid. I will consider the action request with the latest, valid time-stamp to be the final decision for each actor. Failure to submit an action will result in no action. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/616 "2010-03-25T18:08:38Z")
So, was “Witch” town? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/617 "2010-03-25T18:10:51Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > You can complain all you want, but considering obfuscatory, twee, or ambiguous postings as anti-town has always been a feature of Dope Mafia games. I don’t see why it’s coming as a surprise to you. not complaining at all, just observing. and just because folks approach this game from a different angle doesn’t make them scummy. something to kind of think about in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/618 "2010-03-25T18:11:44Z")
I’m curious, too. I’ll hold off passing out drinks before we know whether we’re crying in our uri–er, beer, or throwing back shots in celebration. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/619 "2010-03-25T18:13:29Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > So that’s it, yes. Day over? > > 600+ posts on Day One. So if the game goes six days, we could challenge 4,000 posts. What’s the record? lynching the post leader should bring the average Down, and if Meeko, me, and freduian go anytime son, it should drop off more rapidly. [Mafia V: The Cult of Sekham](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=426256) had 4353 posts [Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=414041) had 3947 [Screamers Mafia](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=532883) had 2948 [Mafia: Conspiracy 2: The Cabal Strikes Back! had 2663](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=471171) [Mafia The Game III: Kinder and Gentler](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=417106) had 2503 Evil Daed had 2448 (in all the threads) [The Crimson Glyph (Werewolf/Mafia/Psychopath)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=515347) had 2407 [Lost Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=520635) had 2193 [Mafia: The Conspiracy](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=436661) had 2125 [Scum mafia: On Cecil pond](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=549182) had 2080 [Mafia: The Mob is Recruiting](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=456652) had 1983 [You-Solve-It Mafia Game](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=447411) had 1804 [Sdmb mafia](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=490235) had 1726 [Werewolf (Mafia)–The Split had 1648](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=506392) [Mafia–T2: Behind the Scenes](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=481372) had 1628 [Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=526406) had 1504 [Mafia: Simpletown](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=461435) had 1459 [Colorless Mafia](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=542249) had 1429 [Mafia: Cecilvania [Game Over]](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=467815) had 1409 [Mafia: Not-so-simple-Simpletown](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=509422) had 1149 [Munchkin Mini Mafia](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=506331) had 994 [Doperville Mafia - New Players Welcome!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=467356) had 931 [Inblourious Gasterds Mafia](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=531139) had 745 [Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Insipid [Game Over]](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=526504) had 448 that’s all that I found…yeah…I’m bored ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/620 "2010-03-25T18:15:38Z")
whoops, my bad **sach**. i didn’t realize we were closed down. go town. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=32)