# Random Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942 "2010-03-18T21:47:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/621 "2010-03-25T18:38:34Z")
Usually blue text = Town. Since there are no restrictions on strategy talk, when I made my FOS post, I said “everybody” because I was pretty sure I’d seen that argument made before in a post by someone voting for **peeker** , although not necessarily in the post where they made the vote. I wasn’t sure who it was and didn’t have time to go through the thread looking for it (and still don’t, although I may at some point in the future) so I just hedged my bets and said “everyone.” But if it turns out it’s just **zeriel** , then the FOS applies to just him, then. Nothing changes–I still think it’s a horrid reason to vote **peeker** on Day One, since he always makes the same damned joke vote every Day One. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/622 "2010-03-25T18:42:46Z")
I was afraid that blue=town, too, **Drain**. Here’s my drink. In honor of Random Mafia, I call it the Randomizer. I threw a lot of crap in a blender. Tada! ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/623 "2010-03-25T18:56:37Z")
Uh, ed, I think that you missed a [rather important game…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=407197). 1386 posts in that one, if anybody’s curious. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/624 "2010-03-25T19:00:10Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Uh, ed, I think that you missed a [rather important game…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=407197). > > 1386 posts in that one, if anybody’s curious. ah, I’ve heard of that. Before my time… sorry for missing it. I looked them up just by sorting "the game thread’ by highest post threads ‘since the beginning’ A vast majority of the threads at the top are Mafia threads, btw ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/625 "2010-03-25T19:06:49Z")
Hey guys, sorry I disappeared and didn’t get a vote in. I’m finally settled in back in my old office but it was buried under a mountain of paper work, actually my friends spend the last 6 months filling my 10x10 office floor to ceiling with newspaper, and it took me 3 hours to dig out. This was the big hurdle in my communication for this game and I should be good from here on out. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/626 "2010-03-25T19:17:59Z")
Whoops, I somehow got the time zone conversion mangled in my head, or I would have shown up earlier to defend myself. Since I ended up in second place, and since it looks like strategy talk is permitted at Night, I think I ought to defend myself anyway. First off, [**MHaye** ’s vote](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12265736&postcount=591): > [@](#): > > Vote Chronos > > Why Chronos? > > I did not like his vote for OAOW. I’ve presented my views on OAOW’s vote (see post 550). It should have been obvious to everyone that the particular misspellings were not indicative of any particular author, so the conclusions he drew were totally unsupported. Someone trying to build a case on that reason is either extremely foolish or has an ulterior motive. > > I reject the hypothesis that Chronos is that foolish. So he had a reason. As it stands, I can’t really make sense of this-- Could we have some antecedents for those pronouns, maybe? **MHaye** starts off by agreeing with me, that the typos didn’t mean anything. He then goes on to say that “the conclusions he drew were totally unsupported”. Since it was **Wanderers** who drew the conclusions from the typos, I presume that the “he” here means **Wanderers** , not me. Then we have “Someone trying to build a case on that reason is either extremely foolish or has an ulterior motive.”. OK, I think I can agree with this, assuming that the “someone” means **Wanderers** , and “that reason” means based on the typos. But then we have “I reject the hypothesis that Chronos is that foolish. So he had a reason.”, which makes it look like the preceding sentence was about me. **MHaye** , at what point in that post did you go from talking about **Wanderers** and what he did, to me and what I did? OK, next up, to [**storyteller** ’s re-vote of me.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12265733&postcount=590) I’ve already made my defense against the charge that my vote was opportunistic, so I’ll say no more on that. Then there’s this: > [@](#): > > For my part, I’m going to reinstitute my vote for Chronos, and summarize my reasons as quickly as possible. He has been “pinging” me in a variety of ways, beginning all the way back during the run-up to the name claim. In one post during that period (#120), he argued that “doing a name-claim toDay will prevent the Scum from saying ‘OK, I’m planning on claiming Doctor, so I’m going to take the name Clara Barton. Don’t anybody pick Jonas Salk’ (or whatever).” Almost immediately afterward, he suggested that the Townie playing a Doctor (specifically) lie about his/her name in order to protect him/herself. A bit of a closer look reveals that these two ideas are sort of mutually contradictory, as if we allowed Town to lie about their role names it gives the Scum cover to claim whatever they want and then just claim Clara Barton/Jonas Salk later. OK, I can see how those two ideas, especially in combination, can be seen as bad. It’d have been nice if you had pointed out that it was a bad idea at the time, so we’d have been able to re-assess, and maybe come to a consensus that it was bad, so we wouldn’t fall into that trap. It’s too late for that, now, since everyone, including our hypothetical doctor and all of the Scum, have now claimed. If it’s obvious that this was a bad idea, why didn’t you point it out sooner, and if it wasn’t so obvious, then why does it reflect on me that I didn’t notice it either? Also from **storyteller** ’s vote: > [@](#): > > In the same post, he included a little disclaimer about how unlikely/impossible it is to catch Scum on the first Day, which is one of my pet Scum tells - I think Scum say things like this to make Town more accepting of a poorly-reasoned Day One lynch. I’m pretty sure I’ve said something to this effect in every game I’ve played, including the games where I was Town. I say it for the simple reason that it’s true: The first-Day lynch is, in fact, usually Town. Can anyone dispute that fact? It doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t _try_ to lynch Scum, just that we shouldn’t be too surprised when and if we fail. And, of course, there’s **peeker** ’s vote for me, which so far as I can tell boils down to “Chronos voted for a Townie, therefore Chronos is Scum”. Even if the blue text does mean **peeker** was Town (a point I’d really appreciate seeing clarified) I don’t think I really need to put up any defense versus that one, since I’m sure everyone already sees the flaw. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/627 "2010-03-25T19:28:10Z")
Oh, and since it was [**sachertorte** who pointed it out in the last game](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12168772&postcount=1571), I feel obligated to point it out here: The way the end-of-Night is scheduled, there’s a perfect window of opportunity every Morning for a detective claim. When the Detective decides that the time has come to claim and reveal es investigations, e should do so shortly after 2:00 on that Saturday, rather than during the preceding Day. That way, the Scum can’t decide to kill him immediately, but if he was targeted by guesswork, he’s not dead yet. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/628 "2010-03-25T19:48:40Z")
After that summary text, I’m going to petition sach to change this to being called “sarcasm mafia”. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/629 "2010-03-25T20:30:42Z")
Hi all. I’m assuming that blue text, plus peeker’s “go town” dying message, mean Town. I think I’m going to pretend that there isn’t strategy talk at night even though there is and come back with fresh eyes and brain later. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/630 "2010-03-25T20:31:50Z")
And, oh yeah, Screamers mafia went to 880 posts on the first day. I still remember the sinking feeling when we found out it wasn’t over yet on page 13 or so… ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/631 "2010-03-25T21:33:40Z")
That was mostly because Day 1 itself went on extra-long, though. There were mechanics in that game that led to variable-length Days, but after that, I think they were all about a week long, like normal. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/632 "2010-03-25T21:47:38Z")
Anyone up for my newest concoction? Raspberry Smush? No? How about Bestiality in the Parking Lot? And all the drinks come with little beanies on them. In honor of Passover. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/633 "2010-03-25T21:54:13Z")
I’ll try the randomizer, please, barkeep, but please, please, please don’t tell me what’s in it. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/634 "2010-03-25T22:06:13Z")
You’re in luck. It, too, comes with a cute lil Passover beanie, and you get a bonus! No, NOT the peanuts, save those for tonight. You get a clean glass. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/635 "2010-03-25T22:13:16Z")
By the way, everyone should send their photo in for the SMDB photo collection. Let’s be honest. Don’t you wanna get a look at some of these freaks you play Mafia with? 🙂 [Go here to send you photo in.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=539257) ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/636 "2010-03-25T22:33:09Z")
I guess I’ll try the bestiality in the parking lot. Although I think I would earn the same looks ordering one of those as I would a zima. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/637 "2010-03-25T22:33:53Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > I guess I’ll try the bestiality in the parking lot. Although I think I would earn the same looks ordering one of those as I would a zima. That’s the spirit. Might I also add that all our drinks are green, as is the fashion nowadays? ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/638 "2010-03-26T03:59:38Z")
UGH. You ever have a day, where you don’t know what you feel, and you don’t why you don’t know what you feel? I feel bad for the Peeker vote, but not sure that I would even unvote now, if I had the chance. Not sure if he will understand why I voted for him. Not sure if you guys got why I voted for him. I feel drunk right now, and I haven’t touched any. Would like to talk to him later though. Not here, not the forum. heh. Just, I felt I put a lot of equity on Peeker that I can never get back. Bits and pieces here and there, in all games, and in meta game space. Just sooo thought his “strategy” in the game was from a different place. I am probably making it worse. Catch you guys later. I feel REALLY off tonight. in general. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/639 "2010-03-26T04:40:00Z")
**Meeko** , you look bushed. I think you need a drinky. I called it the Hudsucker Peroxide. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2010, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/640 "2010-03-26T05:15:29Z")
If I post something similar does that mean you’ll have to make another pun like that? I feel pretty beat, too. Go. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=33)