# Random Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942 "2010-03-18T21:47:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/861 "2010-04-01T12:12:24Z")
**vote Freudian** for the vote switching, poor reasoning, and bandwagon-hopping. Not the strongest of reasons. I’m still not quite comfortable voting for OAOW. I might be willing to vote for Mahaloth. I’ll check back from work, hopefully, as I think Day ends in less than 6 hours ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/862 "2010-04-01T12:44:02Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > Your post made me smile. Don’t pat me on the head, I don’t want your applesauce pudding. I would expect no less from someone wanting to continue it with me, and still appear neutral. But, I would rather debate you, over other people who can’t give something up. ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/863 "2010-04-01T12:45:39Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > **BASED ON THIS GAME ALONE** kelly has a better chance of being town. “Better” is a word used when comparing two things, to indicate that one of the things compared is in some way superior to the other. So the obvious question is “Better than **who** , exactly?” Without an indication of what is being compared to Kelly’s chance of being town in this game, that statement is meaningless. It’s also wrong, as Kelly’s chance of being Town is : [sup]No. of starting town-aligned roles[/sup] / [sub]Total number of players[/sub]. Which is exactly the same as anyone else’s. Time to reread Day 2 and place a vote. I don’t like the fact that the vote is currently tied at 5 apiece, but 5 hours is plenty of time for vote shifts. Back later. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/864 "2010-04-01T12:52:37Z")
Just in case it’s not clear, I have already claimed fully. I have no further info to my role than what I quoted when name claiming. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/865 "2010-04-01T12:57:17Z")
Looks like **ed’s** vote put us back into tie-land. If that’s the case, big fat FOS in his direction for forcing a late tie. I’ll break it. **vote OAOW** At the time, I see the case against him as being stronger than the case against **Freudian** , and I also see it leading to more information for us once we see what he is. And since I don’t want a late tie, here’s my vote. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/866 "2010-04-01T13:07:08Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Looks like **ed’s** vote put us back into tie-land. If that’s the case, big fat FOS in his direction for forcing a late tie. > > I’ll break it. **vote OAOW** > > At the time, I see the case against him as being stronger than the case against **Freudian** , and I also see it leading to more information for us once we see what he is. And since I don’t want a late tie, here’s my vote. If you believe the player on leader -1 votes is the scummiest, why not place a vote there? For sure you should have good reasoning and evidence for why you are doing it, but it is not, by itself, scummy. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/867 "2010-04-01T13:17:49Z")
> [@KellyCriterion](#): > > **Please remove me from the game** KellyCriterion’s role has been offered to Cometothedarksidewehavecookies. If she accepts, she can post as soon as she is ready. If not, something else will happen. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/868 "2010-04-01T13:26:13Z")
Meeko (0): [del]Freudian Slit 651 763[/del] Freudian Slit (5): Rysto 655, Meeko 666, Tom Scud 783, Red Skeezix 835, special ed 861 TexCat (0): [del]Tom Scud 706 783[/del] Drain Bead (1): Zeriel 715 Jimmy Chitwood (2): [del]Oredigger 717 734[/del], One And Only Wanderers 751, TexCat 795 One And Only Wanderers (6): Jimmy Chitwood 757, Oredigger77 760, Freudian Slit 763, Mahaloth 815, GuiriEnEspaña 855, Drain Bead 865 Tom Scud (0): [del]Mahaloth 787 815[/del] GuiriEnEspaña (1): Chronos 803 Mahaloth (1): storyteller0910 833 ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/869 "2010-04-01T13:27:45Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Looks like **ed’s** vote put us back into tie-land. If that’s the case, big fat FOS in his direction for forcing a late tie. > > I’ll break it. **vote OAOW** > > At the time, I see the case against him as being stronger than the case against **Freudian** , and I also see it leading to more information for us once we see what he is. And since I don’t want a late tie, here’s my vote. Near as I can tell, a late tie in this particular game isn’t a particularly big problem. If there’s a late tie, there will still be a lynch, and one that’s under our control. In fact, your vote has not altered the situation, as Ed’s vote, while putting us at a tie, didn’t change the identity of the lynch-ee currently on the block (nor did yours). And I can’t see anything wrong with Ed voting for the player he thinks is scummy, whether or not it generates a tie. There are still four plus hours until the deadline - should everyone just stop voting at this point for anyone but the lynch leader, for fear of a tie? Your FoS of Ed for this reason is highly suspect to me. My vote remains with Mahaloth, but you’ve shot up my list now. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/870 "2010-04-01T13:31:11Z")
Also, I hope sach won’t mind if I post a cleaned-up and simplified vote count, for reference purposes: **One And Only Wanderers** - (6): Jimmy Chitwood, Oredigger77, Freudian Slit, Mahaloth, GuiriEnEspaña, Drain Bead **Freudian Slit** - (5): Rysto, Meeko, Tom Scud, Red Skeezix, special ed **Jimmy Chitwood** - (2): Oredigger, One And Only Wanderers, TexCat **Drain Bead** - (1): Zeriel **GuiriEnEspaña** - (1): Chronos **Mahaloth** - (1): storyteller0910 ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/871 "2010-04-01T13:33:33Z")
On reflection, given that I know I am town, and I don’t know what alignment Freudian is, I am going to tie the game again. \*\*unvote vote Freudian\*\*. This also removes the possibility of me making a last second situation changing vote, which may make people happier in putting their votes where they wish, safe in the knowedge that the prospective lynchees cannot themselves break a tie in their own favour. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/872 "2010-04-01T13:39:58Z")
Wanderers - Actually, that makes a good deal of sense. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/873 "2010-04-01T13:42:13Z")
Story you’ve got me on there voting twice. I unvoted Jimmy which is why there was a strike through my name. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/874 "2010-04-01T13:44:00Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > However, I do think **zeriel** is being a bit hypocritical here, and while I think it’s probably more OMGUS than scummy, if **OAOW** turns up Scum, I’ll definitely start to question **zeriel’s** motivations a bit more. That’d be pretty funny, considering I said earlier toDay (in post 762) that I’d end up voting for whichever of **Tom** , **OaOW** , or you was the vote leader before the bandwagon on \*\*OaOW \*\*had even really got off the ground. That said, **unvote Drain Bead** **vote One and Only Wanderers** ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/875 "2010-04-01T13:47:08Z")
Wow. OK, at this point, I really don’t know why I’ve garnered so many votes. I didn’t really see my actions as jumping on bandwagons. I tried to explain my votes and honestly, I don’t know what else to say. Hopefully, **Wanderers** will get it and not me, but yeah. Here’s hoping I don’t come back this afternoon to see myself lynched. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/876 "2010-04-01T13:49:40Z")
Hmm everytime there’s a tie, up votes a vote on me. Conjecture time again This is all based on my knowledge that I am town. Due to mt own damn posts, I am now a tarnished and controversial figure. Scum know I am town, but would have no real interesr in getting rid fo me, as I will be drawing heat as long as I am alive for the rest of the game. If however Freudian is scum, then the scum team have an interedt in me being lynched instead. When I come up town and IF freudian comes up scum, there is a increased likeliness of zeriel and or drain being scum. end conjecture ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/877 "2010-04-01T13:50:31Z")
Checking in before I start doing the work they’re paying me for. Looks like we’re now at 7 for OaOW (with the tiebreaker edge) and 6 for Freudian, with 3 one-offs and MHaye (and Kelly/cookies) not voting. I’ll note that **TexCat** ’s discussion of her Jimmy vote to some degree also addresses my criticism of her peeker vote & votes of her; I’ll take another look later since it’s not relevant to the current day’s end. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/878 "2010-04-01T13:51:44Z")
addition. If freudian flips town also, then that would lessen the chances of zeriel and or drain being scum, as they would have no need to get involved in a controversial lynch race between 2 townies. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/879 "2010-04-01T14:06:28Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Looks like **ed’s** vote put us back into tie-land. If that’s the case, big fat FOS in his direction for forcing a late tie. > > I’ll break it. **vote OAOW** > > At the time, I see the case against him as being stronger than the case against **Freudian** , and I also see it leading to more information for us once we see what he is. And since I don’t want a late tie, here’s my vote. \*delete my rambling comment on preview, what story said ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/880 "2010-04-01T14:22:04Z")
**unvote: Jimmy vote: Freudian Slit** This is a reluctant vote on my part. I still think that the case against OaOW is only a scum fabrication, and I still think Jimmy looks scummy, but I am going to move my vote to what looks to me like the more suspicious of the two dogs in this race. If there is a scum bandwagon on OaOW, it looks like Freudian could easily be part of it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=45)