# Random Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 18, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942 "2010-03-18T21:47:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 46

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/901 "2010-04-01T23:21:13Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Wow, that link to the werewolf game is a hoot. Votes flying willy-nilly with no reasons attached to them, people debating whether to lynch a claimed Mason in a game known to have Masons, people attracting suspicion for being the first to vote in a Day… We’ve come a long way.

## Sounds like a game I could handle.

Alternately : Cut me some slack.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/902 "2010-04-01T23:57:21Z")

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> [@Freudian\_Slit](#):
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> One boilermaker! And yes. It is made from real boilers.

real boilers or real boils?

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/903 "2010-04-02T00:18:59Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> real boilers or real boils?

Can’t we just drop Ed into a super-sized pint?

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/904 "2010-04-02T03:15:05Z")

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Everyone do the town a favor and don’t follow my lead no more.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/905 "2010-04-03T18:00:43Z")

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I think we all should take a moment to mourn the severe lack of randomness in this game.  
**storyteller0910** (**Detective Chief Superintendent (Fictional)**) is dead.  
**Freudian Slit** (**Greek (Fictional)**) is dead.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/906 "2010-04-03T18:02:35Z")

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By the way, Peeker was fictional too. I forgot to note that when he died. It doesn’t matter though, you know, since he’s dead.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/907 "2010-04-03T18:03:57Z")

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So, we’re waiting for sunrise now, right?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/908 "2010-04-03T18:10:19Z")

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Oh, I guess we’re not waiting. Well, we have two deaths. Since we don’t have any third parties, that’s probably the Scum and a Vig. **Storyteller** ’s seems to fit the pattern of “strong player killed” we saw last Night, and “second place in the vote total” is a common choice for Vig targets, so I’m guessing that **Freudian** was the Vig-kill.

There is one piece of good news in this: Since we know know (or at least strongly suspect) that there’s a Vigilante in the game, that person can, when e thinks it appropriate, claim to confirm emself.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/909 "2010-04-03T18:16:18Z")

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Wow, so we must have a vigilante.

I assume it is daytime now?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/910 "2010-04-03T18:29:13Z")

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> [@sachertorte](#):
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> I think we all should take a moment to mourn the severe lack of randomness in this game.  
> **storyteller0910** (**Detective Chief Superintendent (Fictional)**) is dead.  
> **Freudian Slit** (**Greek (Fictional)**) is dead.

FWIW, that doesn’t match story’s claim.

> [@](#):
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> You are Baldrick (Servant). You are Fictional. You win with the Town.  
> [Baldrick - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldrick)

from Texcat’s list in post 273

TexCat Benedict Arnold (Traitor).  
Tom Scud Busby Berkeley (Choreographer).  
Oredigger George Washington (President).  
special ed Guy de Maupassant (Writer)  
**Freudian Slit Patroclus (Greek). You are Fictional.**  
Red Skeezix Ogden Nash (Poet).  
Meeko Joan Miró (Aritst)  
Mahaloth Samuel Johnson (Critic).  
**storyteller Baldrick (Servant). You are Fictional.**  
GuiriEnEspana Gustave Eiffel (Architect).  
**One & Only Wanderers Fu Mingxia (Olympic Gold Medalist).**  
KellyCriterion Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (Composer).  
MHaye Tim Horton (Canadian).  
NAF1138 Joesph Smith (Mormon)  
Jimmy Chitwood Alexander Graham Bell (Inventor)  
Rysto Petr Cech (Goalkeeper).  
Chonos Jesse Jackson (Reverend).  
Drain Bead Eva Peron (Spiritual Leader of the Nation of Argentina).  
Zeriel Lysander (Lover). You are Fictional.  
**peekercpa wicked witch of the west??? {Witch and fictional}**

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/911 "2010-04-03T18:30:46Z")

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Thanks, ed. My list didn’t seem to include storyteller for some odd reason. I must have missed his post.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/912 "2010-04-03T18:37:10Z")

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Voting records

storyteller (0): peekercpa 116 201  
peekercpa (4): Zeriel 151 190, TexCat 314 356, Chronos 360, Meeko 383, Freudian Slit 478, Mahaloth 482  
NAF1138 (0): One And Only Wanderers 179 288, KellyCriterion 242 244  
One And Only Wanderers (0): Chronos 180 360, Jimmy Chitwood 184, Meeko 220 291  
Mahaloth (0): Meeko 291 298  
KellyCriterion (3): NAF1138 313, Jimmy Chitwood 484, Tom Scud 571  
TexCat (1): Red Skeezix 316, Tom Scud 328 571, peekercpa 346 450  
Oredigger77 (1): Drain Bead 347  
Red Skeezix (1): TexCat 356, Freudian Slit 364 478  
Chronos (3): storyteller0910 416 564, peekercpa 450, storyteller 590, MHaye 591  
Drain Bead (2): Zeriel 560, special ed 565  
Zeriel (1): storyteller0910 564 567, One And Only Wanderers 570  
Rysto (1): GuiriEnEspaña 576  
Freudian Slit (1): Rysto 577  
Not Voting (2) : KellyCriterion, Oredigger77

**Day 2** (which might not yield much information, since both lynch leaders were Town Scum could be anywhere

\*\*One And Only Wanderers (8): \*\*Jimmy Chitwood 757, Oredigger77 760, Freudian Slit 763, Mahaloth 815, GuiriEnEspaña 855, Drain Bead 865, Zeriel 874, Chronos 882  
\*\*Freudian Slit (8): \*\*Rysto 655, Meeko 666, Tom Scud 783, Red Skeezix 835, special ed 861, OAOW 871, TexCat 880, MHaye 885  
\*\*Mahaloth (1): \*\*storyteller0910 833  
\*\*Jimmy Chitwood (0): \*\*Oredigger 717 734, One And Only Wanderers 751 871, TexCat 795 880  
**Drain Bead (0):** Zeriel 715 874  
**GuiriEnEspaña (0): Chronos 803 882  
 TexCat (0): Tom Scud 706 783  
 Tom Scud (0): Mahaloth 787 815  
Meeko (0):** Freudian Slit 651 763

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/913 "2010-04-03T18:43:25Z")

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Well, Detective Chief Superintendent sure sounds pretty suggestive, doesn’t it; no wonder it doesn’t match his claim. Eesh.

Well, I was the only person to have multiple votes on me during the run-up to the lynch who isn’t currently dead, which means that I should probably leave the vote analysis to somebody else. For what it’s worth, I was first in on **OaOW** , followed by **Freudian** , followed by a fairly long silence, and **Rysto** and **Meeko** were first in on **Freudian** , both in response to her vote on the latter.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/914 "2010-04-03T18:45:41Z")

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Ah, too late again, and inaccurate to boot. **Oredigger** didn’t say the full name in his vote and I missed it.

So for **Wanderers** it was me, then **Oredigger** , then \*\*Freudian, then the gap.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/915 "2010-04-03T18:45:50Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> Voting records
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> storyteller (0): peekercpa 116 201  
> peekercpa (4): Zeriel 151 190, TexCat 314 356, Chronos 360, Meeko 383, Freudian Slit 478, Mahaloth 482  
> NAF1138 (0): One And Only Wanderers 179 288, KellyCriterion 242 244  
> One And Only Wanderers (0): Chronos 180 360, Jimmy Chitwood 184, Meeko 220 291  
> Mahaloth (0): Meeko 291 298  
> KellyCriterion (3): NAF1138 313, Jimmy Chitwood 484, Tom Scud 571  
> TexCat (1): Red Skeezix 316, Tom Scud 328 571, peekercpa 346 450  
> Oredigger77 (1): Drain Bead 347  
> Red Skeezix (1): TexCat 356, Freudian Slit 364 478  
> Chronos (3): storyteller0910 416 564, peekercpa 450, storyteller 590, MHaye 591  
> Drain Bead (2): Zeriel 560, special ed 565  
> Zeriel (1): storyteller0910 564 567, One And Only Wanderers 570  
> Rysto (1): GuiriEnEspaña 576  
> Freudian Slit (1): Rysto 577  
> Not Voting (2) : KellyCriterion, Oredigger77
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> **Day 2** (which might not yield much information, since both lynch leaders were Town Scum could be anywhere
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> \*\*One And Only Wanderers (8): \*\*Jimmy Chitwood 757, Oredigger77 760, Freudian Slit 763, Mahaloth 815, GuiriEnEspaña 855, Drain Bead 865, Zeriel 874, Chronos 882  
> \*\*Freudian Slit (8): \*\*Rysto 655, Meeko 666, Tom Scud 783, Red Skeezix 835, special ed 861, OAOW 871, TexCat 880, MHaye 885  
> \*\*Mahaloth (1): \*\*storyteller0910 833  
> \*\*Jimmy Chitwood (0): \*\*Oredigger 717 734, One And Only Wanderers 751 871, TexCat 795 880  
> **Drain Bead (0):** Zeriel 715 874  
> **GuiriEnEspaña (0): Chronos 803 882  
> TexCat (0): Tom Scud 706 783  
> Tom Scud (0): Mahaloth 787 815  
> Meeko (0):** Freudian Slit 651 763

yikes, the strike throughs didn’t copy/paste. Sorry for not noticing that earlier

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/916 "2010-04-03T18:50:37Z")

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I suppose with a character having the profession of “Detective Chief Superintendent” **Story** was hesitant to claim honestly as he’d have been a likely target for a scum night-kill. He was the last (or penultimate?) to claim so I guess when he saw there were no obvious doctors or vigilantes he thought a fake claim was the safest option. Of course, now we’ve no idea if he actually was our detective or not…

On preview, what **Jimmy** said: “Eesh”, but in more words.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/917 "2010-04-03T19:03:46Z")

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:smack: Apparently I’m not fully awake yet, since I completely failed to notice that **storyteller** ’s death reveal included a “real” Mafia role. I guess I was just thinking of the “roles” as meaningless, and didn’t even bother reading it. Losing a Detective before he had a chance to tell us anything hurts.

Of course, now I’m really wondering what, precisely, **storyteller** ’s PM said. Was he really given the name “Baldrick”, or was he Clousseau or some such? Did he have the “role” “servant” in addition to detective? Did he have the random information and then his game powers, or just the game powers?

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/918 "2010-04-03T19:20:10Z")

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> [@GuiriEnEspana](#):
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> I suppose with a character having the profession of “Detective Chief Superintendent” **Story** was hesitant to claim honestly as he’d have been a likely target for a scum night-kill. He was the last (or penultimate?) to claim so I guess when he saw there were no obvious doctors or vigilantes he thought a fake claim was the safest option. Of course, now we’ve no idea if he actually was our detective or not…

Seriously? story was Town, he lied about his profession and he was a detective. He was definitely our cop.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/919 "2010-04-03T20:18:11Z")

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I suppose we should probably go back and look at his posts and suspicions now, huh.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/920 "2010-04-03T20:35:49Z")

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I looked at his first couple of Day Two posts. Nothing stands out. He defended Freudian at one point and then said that another post pinged him. He did develop a case against Mahaloth, but it was completely based on Mahaloth’s Day Two actions.

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