# Random Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 18, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942 "2010-03-18T21:47:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/81 "2010-03-19T18:27:41Z")

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Confirming role PM.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/82 "2010-03-19T18:28:00Z")

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I have a meeting. Role pm sending has been suspended.

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/83 "2010-03-19T18:35:03Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Like’s been said: Stay cool. Once the game starts, by definition nothing is personal–you’re not “Meeko”, you’re “whatever your role PM says, and that identity happens to have the label of Meeko in this context”. You play ever so much better when you’re not convinced people are out to personally get you, so I’m advising you to realize that no one’s out to personally get you. 😃

This. Like I said on the spoiled board Meeko, I thought you played fairly well in the early game, but your play went badly downhill once you got frustrated. If you play badly in mafia, you have to expect to be criticised, it’s not personal.

The game becomes far less enjoyable for everone when players get frustrated or annoyed with each other.

**@One and Only Wanderers** - I take it BW = Bolton Wanderers?

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/84 "2010-03-19T18:48:41Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> we have played together Meeko - i am luvBWFC

> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> HOW ON EARTH am I just now finding this out?

It came up during the Marvels game.

Oh, and PM received.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/85 "2010-03-19T18:55:02Z")

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PM Received.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/86 "2010-03-19T18:55:30Z")

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Got my PM too.

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**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/87 "2010-03-19T18:55:52Z")

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PM received.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/88 "2010-03-19T19:07:03Z")

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Got mine.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/89 "2010-03-19T19:07:11Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> Got my PM too.

Son of a…

This means that sach stopped sending PMs just before he got to me.

Edit: Argh!

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/90 "2010-03-19T19:13:09Z")

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And it’ll be a while for me too.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/91 "2010-03-19T19:14:39Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> Son of a…
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> This means that sach stopped sending PMs just before he got to me.
> 
> Edit: Argh!

Or you have a special new role: Guy without a PM.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/92 "2010-03-19T19:42:32Z")

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Confirmed.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/93 "2010-03-19T19:47:57Z")

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PM Confirmed.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/94 "2010-03-19T19:53:15Z")

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All roles have been assigned and sent by PM. If I missed you. SEND ME A PM. Do not post here.

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/95 "2010-03-19T19:59:05Z")

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Good Morning Town!

I guess I can’t start by killing off NAF this time.  
**ShadowFacts** ( **Town Mayor** ) is dead and will be helping with moderating duties for this game.

You know the drill. Nefarious forces have infiltrated some random town. Root out this evil before they manage to take over!  
Day One will end on Thursday 25 March 2010 at 2:00PM EDT. All votes must have a time stamp of 1:59PM EDT or earlier to count.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/96 "2010-03-19T20:04:41Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> Advice you don’t want while we’re still in the pregame stage, because I’m not going to talk about this kind of stuff once we start: _it’s a game_. Every post that you read is going to be an attempt to play the game. To the extent that you take it personally or read it as an obvious criticism of you as anything other than a gamepiece, you’re doing it wrong and/or getting played by somebody who knows he or she can play you.
> 
> I say that for a few reasons. One, you got really upset at me last time we played because we disagreed about a couple things, and I’m going to need you _on my side_ if you’re on my side again this time. Two, I watched the last game pretty well start-to-finish and it was very frustrating to watch you get angry and start taking the game personally, because it ruined the experience of reading the game. And three, most importantly to me, I don’t want to play a game where every third post is a really frustrating diversion from actual gameplay, so I want to get all of this out there so I don’t have to make frustratingly out-of-game posts once we start. Fourth, probably most importantly to everyone else, since I don’t want to have this conversation anymore, my only real way to deal with it during the game if I think somebody is making it difficult to play the game is to vote for them.
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> How’s that sound? Everybody agrees up front we don’t care how anybody approaches the game philosophically or how “good” they are, that voting isn’t a popularity contest and disagreements and contradictions are going to happen, and we just play the game?

Except for peeker. I’m allowed to hold a grudge against peeker, right?\*  
\*This comment was made tongue in cheek. And yes, my tongue was in my own cheek. and it was the one on my face.  
I have my PM. I’m going to go read it now

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/97 "2010-03-19T20:05:39Z")

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So, pulling a few items out of sach’s setup post:

> [@sachertorte](#):
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> Ties will be resolved by timestamp. The tied player who received the most recent vote will live.

This is not as bad as some tiebreaking mechanisms I’ve seen (cf. LOST mafia). Ties are still bad, but not as bad as they might be.

> [@](#):
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> Substitutions/Removal:  
> I will allow substitutions up through the Dawn of Day Four. Past Day Four’s Dawn, missing players will be **removed from the game with no public indication of role or alignment**. Substitutions may happen at anytime. Removals will occur at Dusk.

This, however is extremely anti-Town, if it comes into play; if on Day 4 someone is a no-show, we will probably have to lynch that person in order to avoid having an information black hole. Hopefully, it won’t come up.

> [@](#):
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> Win Condition:  
> There are no third parties.

Worth knowing.

> [@](#):
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> Closed Setup:  
> An inventory of roles will not be published.  
> A standard Town role PM will be public information.

Also worth knowing.

> [@](#):
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> Stuff you should already know:
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> - Game related communication outside the game thread is forbidden, except for scum who may communicate **at Night and only at Night**.

Emphasis mine.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/98 "2010-03-19T20:07:07Z")

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Wow, Shadow. I am so sorry for you. For what it’s worth, you were a quality mayor.

Sach, didn’t you say that a standard role PM would be posted, did I miss that somewhere? Anyway, my PM lists my religion, which I think is kind of odd. How about the rest of yall?

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/99 "2010-03-19T20:10:05Z")

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You are Thomas Keller (Chef). You win with the Town.

> **[Thomas Keller](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Keller)**
>
> Thomas Aloysius Keller (born October 14, 1955) is an American chef, restaurateur, and cookbook author. He and his landmark Napa Valley restaurant, The French Laundry in Yountville, California, have won multiple awards from the James Beard Foundation, notably the Best California Chef in 1996, and the Best Chef in America in 1997. The restaurant is a perennial winner in the annual Restaurant Magazine list of the Top 50 Restaurants of the World.
> In 2005, he was awarded the three-star rating in ...

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/100 "2010-03-19T20:12:33Z")

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Well, we might as well get this discussion started: should we consider a name claim? Is there any point to it?

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