# Random Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942 "2010-03-18T21:47:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 62
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1221 "2010-04-17T16:10:09Z")
That makes me feel better that there are less crazies then I thought. Even the I think Meeko will have some interesting stories. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1222 "2010-04-17T17:13:42Z")
Note, of course, that the population the census workers actually talk to are a non-random sample. They’re just the folks who didn’t send in their forms correctly. So it’s not 20% of the entire population that are crazy that way, just 20% of those who didn’t respond are. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1223 "2010-04-17T19:18:51Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Note, of course, that the population the census workers actually talk to are a non-random sample. They’re just the folks who didn’t send in their forms correctly. So it’s not 20% of the entire population that are crazy that way, just 20% of those who didn’t respond are. Yes, that was what I meant. I was giving percentages of those who did not send it in, not percentages of the whole. Most people just fill it out and return it. ---
**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1224 "2010-04-17T19:57:30Z")
**TexCat** ( **Freemason** ) is dead. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2010, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1225 "2010-04-17T21:44:34Z")
\*\* Vote Drain Bead \*\* ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1226 "2010-04-18T11:21:08Z")
Farewell **TexCat**! I would have expected scum to target our claimed Doc over a mason. Either **Rysto** is scum, or the scum don’t have a roleblocker, or scum had other reasons for killing **TexCat** and confirming the masonry. With just one claimed mason left I need to claim now before **Cookies** is killed and cannot confirm me. I’m the third and final mason. Tentatively accepting **Rysto** ’s claim, we are left with 6 unknowns of which 1-4 are scum: Tom Scud special ed Red Skeezix Meeko Mahaloth Drain Bead Using the points system and the information currently in play (probable Cop, claimed Doc, Vig, 3-person masonry, no scum roleblocker), I’m guessing we were initially faced with a 5 person scum team, probably with a godfather or investigator. I doubt two members of either team were mod-killed as this would be quite unfair on that team (especially as the two players had posted and voted yesterDay) so I’d like to think we lost one town and one scum - leaving us 3 scum to catch - and 1 mislynch. Looking at the 6 unknowns, I maintain a suspicion of practically all of them. I’m half-way through a full re-read and hope to draw some conclusions later. @ **Special Ed** , is your vote on **Drain** based on her one-off vote on **OreDigger** on Day1 and then voting for the same target as him on Day3? Or do you have more to your case (the skimming of **Meeko** ’s posts, for example)? What about her “This whole post REEKS” response to **OreDigger** ’s vote on **Chronos** , more bussing? @ **Cookies** , I’ve done a WoW on **Tom** and, like **TexCat** , have a gut feeling about him but have no evidence to back up a case. What do you find scummy about him apart from the “slip”, his propensity to vote for masons?97 Reviews rules 111 Unsure about name claim and randomness of names/alignments, has a vaguely towny name 113 Adds that his name includes a profession, suggests omitting this 118 Is in favor of name claim 121 Agrees with **Chronos** that town power roles should false claim 155 Claims Busby Berkeley 199-200-203-204 Corrects **Mahaloth** ’s list to include **Peeker** , notes missing claims 277 Will reread [328](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12252839&postcount=328) Votes **TexCat** for vote on **Peeker** both after he clarified his role and after she stated there was no advantage to copy/paste in [208](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12245812&postcount=208) [390](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12256040&postcount=390) Corrects vote tally [449](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12258493&postcount=449) Clarifies **Ed** scenario of **Peeker** as scum [469](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12260530&postcount=469) Corrects vote tally again [476](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12260684&postcount=476) Reviews cases so far, doesn’t find **Peeker** or **OaOW** scummy, will keep an eye on **Kelly** , comfortable with vote on **Tex** , blames **Peeker** for current situation [477](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12260702&postcount=477) Hoping for **MHaye** to summarize the events of the Day [554](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12264500&postcount=554) Updates review of cases, notes 7 non voters, encourages “townies” to vote [571](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12265141&postcount=571) Moves vote to **Kelly** to avoid a one-off, doesn’t like cases against **Peeker** or **Chronos** 630 Fluff [706](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12277014&postcount=706) “Overnight thread” comment in defense of **Drain** , questions **MHaye** ’s vote on **Chronos** - doesn’t think **Chronos** rode **Peeker** , will keep an eye on **Meeko** , votes **TexCat** for opportunistic vote on **Peeker** [710](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12277158&postcount=710) Clarifies “overnight thread” [719](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12279040&postcount=719) Declines to argue over possible slip [741](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12281901&postcount=741) Responds to **Chronos** on experience with multiple-thread games - just 1 [774](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12285200&postcount=774) Comments on **MHaye** ’s explanation of vote on **Chronos** [777](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12285280&postcount=777) FOSes **MHaye** [780](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12285307&postcount=780) Still happy with **TexCat** vote, two marks in her favor: evil name & noting **Meeko** ’s typo [783](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12285342&postcount=783) Votes **Freudian** for voting a second player for being an anti-town distraction [788](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12285547&postcount=788) Explains & defends vote to **Mahaloth** , bandwagoning, opportunistic voting 789 NETA [846](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12289234&postcount=846) Reviews case against **OaOW** , prefers vote on **Freudian** but not against case. Also sees **Story** ’s case on **Mahaloth** as valid - has not stuck neck out [877](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12290984&postcount=877) Reviews votes, notes that **TexCat** has defended herself 886 Fluff [923](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12299677&postcount=923) Comments on deaths, **Story** was suspicious of **Chronos** [953](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12303393&postcount=953) Responds to **Mahaloth** ’s early vote [969](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12306414&postcount=969) Notes inconsistency between **TexCat** ’s stance on copy/paste in #208 and her suspicions of **Jimmy** and **Chronos** - she doesn’t understand why people would want to hide information from town, votes **TexCat** [970](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12306443&postcount=970) Thinks **Story** was the cop, no advantage to false claiming otherwise [979](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12308221&postcount=979) Comments on **TexCat** ’s change of mind on **Freudian** ’s scumminess 980 NETA [988](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12311022&postcount=988) Self-defense against **Cookies** ’s case [1002](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12315182&postcount=1002) Self-defense vote on **Chronos** [1010](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12317106&postcount=1010) To **Jimmy** , defends post on **OaOW** without following it up with a vote, expresses suspicion of **OreDigger** for vote on **Chronos** [1047](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12326782&postcount=1047) Votes **Oredigger** , points out typo in name claim 1048 NETA [1106](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12329408&postcount=1106) To **Meeko** , explains how **Oredigger** ’s typo is different [1112](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12331358&postcount=1112) Believes mason claim but not how being masons makes **Cookies** case against him any stronger. Defends voting record. [1181](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12344737&postcount=1181) Is pinged by **Drain** ’s “nobody’s talking about **Tom** ” when in fact a number of players have [1183](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12344751&postcount=1183) Apologises to **TexCat** but found inconsistencies in her play and was suspicious 1189-1199-1203 Fluff@ **Drain** , yesterDay you asked twice about why nobody was talking about **Tom** and was concerned that he’d escaped a lynch and needed more scrutiny. You voted for **Chronos** just before **Cookies** made her case against **Tom** on Day 3 and didn’t comment on the case then. What has **Tom** done since then to make you so concerned that nobody’s talking about him? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1227 "2010-04-18T12:45:16Z")
Voting for me essentially for finding Scum on Day One is pretty weak, all told. It happened in Screamers too, and I was on Rysto in Cecil Pond early and picked up quick votes for it as well. Sometimes I feel like Cassandra in this game. My weak-ass Day One cases are generally right. The only time I’ve ever engaged in bussing as Scum was in Colorless, and that was probably the strongest Day One case I’ve ever come up with! I think Tom and Ed are Scum, not sure about who else. We have a bunch of pretty strong players left in the unconfirmed pool. **vote Tom** ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1228 "2010-04-18T13:29:05Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > @ **Drain** , yesterDay you asked twice about why nobody was talking about **Tom** and was concerned that he’d escaped a lynch and needed more scrutiny. You voted for **Chronos** just before **Cookies** made her case against **Tom** on Day 3 and didn’t comment on the case then. What has **Tom** done since then to make you so concerned that nobody’s talking about him? It’s not so much what **Tom** has done (I think he’s mostly laying low for the time being) but what happened after he was close to the noose. Now, **Oredigger** was an obvious pick, and I’m sure Scum saw his inevitable end coming and were quick on the pile-on, but it seemed like people were purposely avoiding talking about **Tom** , hoping that the issue would go away. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1229 "2010-04-18T14:19:15Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > @ **Special Ed** , is your vote on **Drain** based on her one-off vote on **OreDigger** on Day1 and then voting for the same target as him on Day3? Or do you have more to your case (the skimming of **Meeko** ’s posts, for example)? What about her “This whole post REEKS” response to **OreDigger** ’s vote on **Chronos** , more bussing? Yes, I believe it was a one-off vote on Oredigger designed to provide some Townie Cred later in the game. While I don’t have a problem with her voting for Chronos like Oredigger did on Day 3, the problem is, she completely criticized Oredigger’s vote and made no mention that she was voting the same way. It just struck me as Scum on Scum tactics. The skimming isn’t really an issue, though it is anti-Town ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2010, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1230 "2010-04-18T14:25:28Z")
Updated for TexCat’s death and Guiri’s claim. **Day One** \*\*peekercpa \*\*(4): [del]Zeriel 151 190[/del], [del]TexCat 314 356[/del], Chronos 360, Meeko 383, Freudian Slit 478, Mahaloth 482 \*\*KellyCriterion \*\* (3): NAF1138 313, Jimmy Chitwood 484, Tom Scud 571 \*\*Chronos \*\* (3): [del]storyteller0910 416 564[/del], peekercpa 450, storyteller0910 [COLOR=Black]590, MHaye [/COLOR]591 **Drain Bead** (2): Zeriel 560, special ed 565 **TexCat** (1): Red Skeezix 316, [del]Tom Scud 328 571[/del], [del]peekercpa 346 450[/del] Oredigger77 (1): Drain Bead 347 \*\*Red Skeezix \*\*(1): TexCat 356, [del]Freudian Slit 364 478[/del] \*\*Zeriel \*\*(1): [del]storyteller0910 564 567[/del], One And Only Wanderers 570 \*\*Rysto \*\*(1): GuiriEnEspaña 576 **Freudian Slit** (1): Rysto 577 \*\*NAF1138 \*\*(0): [del]One And Only Wanderers 179 288[/del], [del]KellyCriterion 242 244[/del] \*\*storyteller0910 \*\*(0): [del]peekercpa 116 201[/del] **One And Only Wanderers** (0): [del]Chronos 180 360[/del], [del]Jimmy Chitwood 184[/del], [del]Meeko 220 291[/del] \*\*Mahaloth \*\*(0): [del]Meeko 291 298[/del] **Not Voting** (2) : KellyCriterion, Oredigger77 **Day Two** **One And Only Wanderers** (8): Jimmy Chitwood 757, Oredigger77 760, Freudian Slit 763, Mahaloth 815, GuiriEnEspaña 855, Drain Bead 865, Zeriel 874, Chronos 882 **Freudian Slit** (8): Rysto 655, Meeko 666, Tom Scud 783, Red Skeezix 835, special ed 861, OAOW 871, TexCat 880, MHaye 885 \*\*Mahaloth \*\*(1): storyteller0910 833 **Jimmy Chitwood** (0): [del]Oredigger 717 734[/del], [del]One And Only Wanderers 751 871[/del], [del]TexCat 795 880[/del] **Drain Bead** (0): [del]Zeriel 715 874[/del] \*\*GuiriEnEspaña \*\*(0): [del]Chronos 803 882[/del] \*\*TexCat \*\*(0): [del]Tom Scud 706 783[/del] **Tom Scud** (0): [del]Mahaloth 787 815[/del] \*\*Meeko \*\*(0): [del]Freudian Slit 651 763[/del] **Day Three** \*\*Chronos \*\*(7): [del]special ed 924 995[/del], Red Skeezix 974, Drain Bead 984, Oredigger77 990, GuiriEnEspaña 1000, Tom Scud 1002, Rysto 1005, Jimmy Chitwood 1013 \*\*Tom Scud \*\*(4): Mahaloth 931, Zeriel 954, Chronos 971, \*\*ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies \*\*986, [del]Jimmy Chitwood 1004 1013[/del] \*\*Oredigger77 \*\*(2): special ed 995, MHaye 1015 **Jimmy Chitwood** (1): TexCat 941 \*\*TexCat \*\*(1): [del]Tom Scud 969 1002[/del], Meeko 982 **Day Four** \*\*Oredigger77 \*\*(10): GuiriEnEspaña 1032, TexCat 1035, special ed 1037, Drain Bead 1039, Tom Scud 1047, MHaye 1116, Rysto 1127, Mahaloth 1135, Red Skeezix 1136, Zeriel 1164 \*\*Rysto \*\*(2): Oredigger77 1137, Meeko 1153 **Tom Scud** (1): [del]Mahaloth 1031 1133[/del], ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 1111 \*\*ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies \*\*(0): [del]Rysto 1028 1051[/del] \*\*TexCat \*\*(0): [del]Meeko 1029 1110[/del] **Player List:** **Alive** : Tom Scud special ed Red Skeezix Meeko Mahaloth GuiriEnEspana Cookies Rysto Drain Bead **Dead:** Oredigger Freudian Slit storyteller MHaye NAF1138 Jimmy Chitwood One and Only Wanderers Chronos Zeriel peekercpa TexCat If we started with 20, I would guess 4-5 Scum, which means we have 1-4 Scum left out of 9 players. Best case, we’re at 8-1 (I doubt) worst case we’re at 5-4 which means potential lynch or lose toMorrow. Most likely case is one of Zeriel and MHaye are Scum (I’d lean Zeriel) With 3 Masons, I’d lean towards 5 Scum. It means we are probably at 6-3 with 1 mislynch left. Though we could be at lynch or lose. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1231 "2010-04-19T03:30:24Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > We have a bunch of pretty strong players left in the unconfirmed pool. Which is probably why Town is losing. Drain, would you consider yourself a good player? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1232 "2010-04-19T12:07:42Z")
**Vote Tom** It’s where my vote was before Oredigger’s odd claim. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1233 "2010-04-19T13:13:15Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Which is probably why Town is losing. > > Drain, would you consider yourself a good player? 😃 Why do you think Town is losing? If we nab Scum toDay, to me we’re doing well. I’m not a great player, but I’m not a bad player either. I’m more of an instinctual player than a lot of people, which can get me in trouble–I put more weight on hunches than I probably should, but I have a decent track record with my hunches, too. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1234 "2010-04-19T13:58:00Z")
Hi all. Sorry about not posting; I’m in the awkward position of having my prior suspects either die or turn up Town; I was considering a case against Zeriel when Digger’s case looked assured, mainly for choosing a very narrow focus and suspecting people for reasons that really aren’t open to discussion; but I didn’t want to go into it while he was dealing with whatever the medical emergency was, and then, well. And now I need to go back and do some careful reading and I have no idea when I’ll be able to do that. I’ve got arguments why everyone in the unconfirmed pool is scum (taking it alphabetically, I did not like Drain’s “gosh why is no one suspicious of Tom” argument yesterday; I remember ed spending a lot of time poking at peeker on Day 1; Mahaloth put a couple votes on me for fairly flimsy reasons before coming up with something that at least looked like a case yesterday; Meeko seemed unusually freaked out by the Oredigger wagon yesterday; and Red has kept a pretty low profile, as Guiri pointed out the other day.) I have no idea why Digger made that vote on Chronos; my best guess is that since there were three people (Zeriel, Mahaloth, Cookies) who had made it pretty clear they were voting for me and would continue to do so, he figured that if he lynched Chronos that day, it would be pretty easy to set me up for a lynch on a future day. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1235 "2010-04-19T16:55:48Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Why do you think Town is losing? If we nab Scum toDay, to me we’re doing well. > > I’m not a great player, but I’m not a bad player either. I’m more of an instinctual player than a lot of people, which can get me in trouble–I put more weight on hunches than I probably should, but I have a decent track record with my hunches, too. Would you still think we’re doing well if both of the mod-kills were Townies? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1236 "2010-04-19T17:09:26Z")
I actually thought about including that scenario in there, but I’ll just remain hopeful that one or both of them were Scum. I doubt it, but hey. Even then, if we nab Scum toDay I think it might turn things around–we can analyze voting patterns a bit more and maybe expose something useful for tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1237 "2010-04-19T17:56:27Z")
Even so Drain, honestly you are beginning to ping. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1238 "2010-04-19T19:07:25Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > worst case we’re at 5-4 which means potential lynch or lose toMorrow. 5-4 would be LyLo toDay, right? > [@special\_ed](#): > > Most likely case is one of Zeriel and MHaye are Scum (I’d lean Zeriel) How do you reconcile **Zeriel** ’s votes on **Drain** for the hidden smudge two Days in a row with them both being on the same scum team? I’d lean more towards **MHaye** being scum, especially for the last minute Day3 vote on **OreDigger** but unfortunately there’s not much to be revealed from analyzing his 10 or so posts… This doesn’t say anything about **Drain** ’s alignment but I doubt **Drain** and **Zeriel** were both scum. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1239 "2010-04-19T19:48:29Z")
@ **Mahaloth** , I noticed this while re-reading (snipped, added italics): > [@Mahaloth](#): > > 1. I see story’s vote ended on me yesterDay. _I don’t really know why or have much to say about it. I’m town and that’s all I can say about it._ Perhaps he got a town result on Night One for Freudian or OneandOnly. I guess we won’t know, unless he bread-crumbed in some way we haven’t figured out. **Story** voted you in [833](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12287911&postcount=833) and you responded in [836](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12288256&postcount=836) with: > [@Mahaloth](#): > > Not much to say about the vote on me from story. I did defend Freudian a bit after that lame vote placed on her. At least story gives a reason with his votes, which I can respect. Why the change from “At least story gives a reason” to “I really don’t know why” after **Story** ’s reveal as Detective Chief Superintendent? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1240 "2010-04-19T23:38:01Z")
> [@GuiriEnEspana](#): > > @ **Mahaloth** , I noticed this while re-reading (snipped, added italics): > > **Story** voted you in [833](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12287911&postcount=833) and you responded in [836](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12288256&postcount=836) with: > > Why the change from “At least story gives a reason” to “I really don’t know why” after **Story** ’s reveal as Detective Chief Superintendent? Two interesting questions, **Guiri**. I especially find the first telling… **ed** may _know_ we’re at LyLo Tomorrow if we mislynch toDay, and slipped on something that is obvious to those paying attention. Right now, he’s trying to get me lynched for _voting for Scum_, which hopefully everyone else finds as ridiculous as I do. If it weren’t for the fact that I’m concerned about this being an OMGUS reaction instead of something well-thought-out, and the fact that **Tom** is still alive, I’d be voting for **ed** right now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=61) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=63)