# Random Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942 "2010-03-18T21:47:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 70
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1381 "2010-04-28T18:41:17Z")
Could I have said “at that point” any more in that post? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1382 "2010-04-28T18:43:11Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > We can’t be sure, but we can be more sure than not, and in the context of the **Oredigger** vs. **Rysto** claim and counterclaim, it would make no sense for **Rysto** to have been the Scum in that situation. If **Digger** had been Town, at that point the Scum know that he’s the Doctor, and they can plan accordingly. There’s no sense in risking a one-for-one trade at that point with a player who, IIRC, wasn’t getting any heat at that point. Scum’s main daytime goal is to expose Town power roles, not necessarily to get them lynched. oh, is that what Meeko was referring to? I thought he was refering to his pending lynch. I agree that the lynch of Oredigger made more sense from a logical standpoint. And it proved to be the correct move. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1383 "2010-04-28T18:50:22Z")
Now: Cookies Rysto special ed Red Skeezix Meeko Mahaloth Drain Bead Lynch meeko (and if the game doesn’t end) toNight Cookies Rysto special ed Red Skeezix Mahaloth Drain Bead Cookies is NK’d, so toMorrow Rysto special ed Red Skeezix Mahaloth Drain Bead We lynch one of the unconfirmed, and if the game doesn’t end, we go into the Night with Rysto 3 unconfirmed Scum kill an unconfirmed (because they can’t kill Rysto) and we go into Day 3 handed with a confirmed Town. (Basically Rysto’s vote decides the game) Or Scum don’t kill and we go into Day still at Lych or lose, but 4 handed. I won’t get into the lynch or no lynch debate at 4 handed, because I just wanted to illustrate how I see the game progressing. It’s not a hopeless as it might seem. If we’re right about Meeko, it looks good for us. If we’re wrong and at least one of Zeriel/MHaye were Scum then it still looks pretty good. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1384 "2010-04-28T19:51:06Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > **FWIW I take issue with this vote.** > > Scum could make neutral observations about everybody. They could then board a wagon on town with a simple **Me Too!**. > > I mean, If you go around saying things about everybody, it would be all to easy to simply nod to the argument later and place a vote. > > **It would be a good strategy for Scum to start arguments on everyone. Then, once someone else forwards the argument into a wagon, that scum player could come back and board the wagon with less attention on them. They would sneak aboard the wagon, increase a vote on the innocent, and fear no retribution.** 1. Uh, yeah, well are you forgetting that I was far from a band wagoner on the vote for Tom? I was one of the first to vote for him and I kept my vote on him for three Days until he was lynched and proven to be scum(well, he confessed before that, but I had my vote on him for Days). 2. Of course it is good strategy for a scum to spread arguments around on everyone and quietly jump on bandwagons. However, I clearly did not “say things” about “everybody”. I flat out said that I have no idea what is going on with Red, for example. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1385 "2010-04-29T15:07:02Z")
**Day ends at 2pm Eastern today, or in about 2 hours and 50 minutes.** ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1386 "2010-04-29T16:29:01Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > I think you want the people who are voting for you to conclude as follows: > > 1. Scum has been winning lately. > 2. Town must be doing something wrong. > 3. I think Meeko is acting Scummy. > > However, that doesn’t mean I’m going to throw out all logic and analysis because it hasn’t worked in. I think there are lessons to be learned (e.g., Vigilante behavior in Colorless), but, overall, I’m going to stick with my best ideas in terms of hunting Scum. > > That said, if you have some idea of how to hunt Scum differently and more effectively, I’m willing to listen. But please don’t jsut tell me I’m wrong, because that’s not helpful. Interesting, you pass the buck to me before you even consider the fact that ANYONE else is acting more scummy. Don’t throw out logic. USE IT. Best ideas in hunting scum? I doubt you would use them if you are scum in this game. I think at a certain point, however, we need to re-evaluate how e do things, we both agree that the later games could have gone better for Town, if better things happened. I’m trying to do better things. I’m not passing the buck. 1. Drain 2. Skeezix 3. Mahaloth 4. Ed [Darn you for being the same player in every single game, darn you for being on me every single second of every single game.] ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1387 "2010-04-29T17:42:05Z")
Looks like I’ll be taking my final drink about now. Surprise me, but keep it stiff. Seems I will be that way soon enough. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1388 "2010-04-29T18:09:08Z")
… ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1389 "2010-04-29T19:09:37Z")
!!! ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1390 "2010-04-29T19:49:54Z")
Sorry, everyone, pulled into an off-site meeting. Back with results shortly. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1391 "2010-04-29T19:55:12Z")
Thanks for the update, I was fearing I would have to break out the emoticons next. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1392 "2010-04-29T19:55:45Z")
**End of day vote count:** **Meeko (5)** - Voted by: special ed 1322, Drain Bead 1326, Red Skeezix 1352, Rysto 1365, Mahaloth 1369 \*\* Drain Bead (1)\*\* - Voted by: Meeko 1327 \*\*Mahaloth (1) \*\*- Voted by: Cookies 1356 Apparently surrealism is not popular. **Meeko (Artist)** is dead. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1393 "2010-04-29T20:00:54Z")
Was starting to get worried that the vote was a little too unanimous and that our one confirmed Town was voting for someone else. Good luck tonight, **Rysto**. We’ll need it. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1394 "2010-04-29T20:01:02Z")
^%&\*%#^&%% we didn’t lose yet though? ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1395 "2010-04-29T20:11:10Z")
**To all those to whom this is relevant: Please PM me with your night actions when you are ready with them.** ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1396 "2010-04-29T23:24:12Z")
Vaya con dios, Meeko. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1397 "2010-04-30T00:37:04Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > ^%&\*%#^&%% > > we didn’t lose yet though? Was there anything more I could have done? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1398 "2010-04-30T00:38:23Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > Was there anything more I could have done? not the time and place to discuss this. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1399 "2010-04-30T04:05:05Z")
I’m glad my Meeko perceptions are still calibrated. Maybe the next time they kick in I can actually talk some other people out of suspecting him. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1400 "2010-05-01T16:50:09Z")
My husband had surgery yesterday, so I may be a bit busy this weekend, what with taking care of him, the house, and a toddler. Will try to keep checking in, but may be AWOL until Monday when I can check from work. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=69) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=71)