# Random Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 18, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942 "2010-03-18T21:47:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/141 "2010-03-19T22:46:39Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> If I had to guess, he picked articles at random from Wikipedia and assigned them to us as names. I would also assume he assigned roles in a separate random fashion.

Do I want to ask about the entire Special Ed “Loves the Random page on Wikipedia” backstory? I got a hunch that something happened there. Post restriction ?

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/142 "2010-03-19T22:46:49Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> So you don’t actually disagree, you just felt like being disagreeable? :dubious:
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> I don’t think we have opposing points of view based on what you said, and the meat of my argument was to not hold back information that is potentially useful to town because it might also be potentially useful to scum.
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> 😛

OK, it seemed to me you were dismissing fishing as a datapoint all together. I’m not willing to do that. Of the 2 Day 1 Scum lynches I can recall, 1 of them was completely based on a fishing attempt (Evil Dead).

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/143 "2010-03-19T22:48:36Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> Do I want to ask about the entire Special Ed “Loves the Random page on Wikipedia” backstory? I got a hunch that something happened there. Post restriction ?

I was an outed Scum. With the urging of my Scum teammates, I flooeded the thread with garbage, including random wikipedia articles. or wikiepedia articles related to a word someone used. It was an attempt to get them to end the Day early. There was also a lot of other trash. pede deleted all my posts though, so there’s nothing left for history to review.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/144 "2010-03-19T22:51:07Z")

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Re-reading Tom Scud; I have to say I fall in line with him. Name claiming right now seems to give too much information to Scum, too easily, too soon. Too many questions still to be asked on everything, but a knee jerk reaction to demand it. \*\*Someone has the upper hand here, in direct regards to name claiming, and I’m not sure it’s Town.  
\*\*

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/145 "2010-03-19T22:55:36Z")

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Did you read my post meek? What do you think about that?

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/146 "2010-03-19T22:56:40Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> I was an outed Scum. With the urging of my Scum teammates, I flooeded the thread with garbage, including random wikipedia articles. or wikiepedia articles related to a word someone used. It was an attempt to get them to end the Day early. There was also a lot of other trash. pede deleted all my posts though, so there’s nothing left for history to review.

i counseled prudence and restraint in my revisionist history mind.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/147 "2010-03-19T23:00:29Z")

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neta: it sure pissed off the town if i recall.

gettysburg will always go down as one of the most hilarious days in a Day that i will ever encounter. i still consider that one of the most brilliant scum machinations to be implemented.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/148 "2010-03-19T23:01:33Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> i counseled prudence and restraint in my revisionist history mind.

Right. 🙂

Anyway, I’m OK with the name claim thing if that is what we want to do. I agree that we could either use the random order that our names were listed in or that we could use [random.org](http://random.org) to make the list.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/149 "2010-03-19T23:05:05Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> OK, it seemed to me you were dismissing fishing as a datapoint all together. I’m not willing to do that. Of the 2 Day 1 Scum lynches I can recall, 1 of them was completely based on a fishing attempt (Evil Dead).

No, I’m not saying we should get rid of it, but rather that it makes for a weak data point rather than a strong one and that we shouldn’t live in fear of scum learning stuff about town, because it’s likely that they either already know or don’t really care.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/150 "2010-03-19T23:05:37Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> No, I’m not saying we should get rid of it, but rather that it makes for a weak data point rather than a strong one and that we shouldn’t live in fear of scum learning stuff about town, because it’s likely that they either already know or don’t really care.

OK, then you are right, we do agree.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/151 "2010-03-19T23:05:47Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> **vote story**
> 
> i’ve just got to vote a strong player on the chance that they are scum or not.

Are you making a joke, or are you just suicidal?

**vote peekercpa** for blatantly anti-town play.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/152 "2010-03-19T23:07:27Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> i counseled prudence and restraint in my revisionist history mind.

The Scum thread is still available, where you suggested and encouraged me in what I was doing.

> [@peekercpa](#):
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> neta: it sure pissed off the town if i recall.
> 
> gettysburg will always go down as one of the most hilarious days in a Day that i will ever encounter. i still consider that one of the most brilliant scum machinations to be implemented.

it was your idea 🙂

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/153 "2010-03-19T23:21:47Z")

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hey this should help **z**

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mxevBjM0l7I/hqdefault.jpg "A Tribute to the Wicked Witch of the West") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxevBjM0l7I)

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/154 "2010-03-19T23:22:21Z")

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Since **special ed** claimed, I’ll help him get the ball rolling.

> [@](#):
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> You are Patroclus (Greek). You are Fictional. You win with the Town.  
> [Patroclus - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patroclus)

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/155 "2010-03-19T23:28:33Z")

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All righty then:

> [@](#):
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> You are Busby Berkeley (Choreographer). You win with the Town.  
> [Busby Berkeley - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busby_Berkeley)

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/156 "2010-03-19T23:34:14Z")

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I guess we’re going in a random order but here’s mine.

> [@](#):
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> Role: Random Mafia  
> You are George Washington (President). You win with theTown.  
> [George Washington - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington)

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/157 "2010-03-19T23:39:26Z")

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[quote]Role: Random Mafia  
You are Joesph Smith (Mormon). You win with the Town.

> **[Joseph Smith](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith)**
>
> Joseph Smith Jr. (December 23, 1805 – June 27, 1844) was an American religious leader and the founder of Mormonism and the Latter Day Saint movement. Publishing the Book of Mormon at the age of 24, Smith had attracted tens of thousands of followers by the time of his death fourteen years later. The religion he founded continues to the present day, with millions of global adherents and several churches claiming Smith as their founder, the largest being the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-da...

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/158 "2010-03-19T23:40:35Z")

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Well, fuck. That’s what I get for posting distracted.

One more time.

My role:

> [@](#):
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> Role: Random Mafia  
> You are Joesph Smith (Mormon). You win with the Town.  
> [Joseph Smith - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith)

Also, the 60 second buffer blows.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/159 "2010-03-20T00:09:00Z")

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The game hasn’t even been going for a day and I’m already playing catch up.

> [@](#):
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> You are Ogden Nash (Poet). You win with the Town.  
> [Ogden Nash - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogden_Nash)

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**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/160 "2010-03-20T00:25:34Z")

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Gosh. This really started fast. It looks like I am a little late to the discussion about whether to name claim or not, and that we are going ahead with the claiming. I can’t see how name claiming can help scum, and I am all in favor of giving town as much info as possible, so I normally would definitely be in favor of name claiming, but with this name?

[QUOTE=sachertorte]  
You are Benedict Arnold (Traitor). You win with the Town.

> **[Benedict Arnold](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Arnold)**
>
> This monument was erected under the patronage of the State of Connecticut in the 55th year of the Independence of the U.S.A. in memory of the brave patriots massacred at Fort Griswold near this spot on the 6th of Sept. AD 1781, when the British, under the command of the Traitor Benedict Arnold, burnt the towns of New London and Groton and spread desolation and woe throughout the region. Benedict Arnold (January 14, 1741 \[O.S. January 3, 1740\]\[a\] – June 14, 1801) was an American-born British ...

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