# Random Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942 "2010-03-18T21:47:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 80
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1581 "2010-05-06T18:50:36Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > Probably because it was equally a kick in the crotch to scum. A single vanilla scum is worth a lot more than a single vanilla town. Sorry, but that doesn’t add up in my mind because while the scum start the game with a lot of perfect info, the Town slowly earns it. Not only that, but each bit of stable data that can be leveraged against accrues interest in the potential worth to Town as the game progresses. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1582 "2010-05-06T18:51:24Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > Speaking only for myself, it was your pursuit of Texcat, not the night thread comment, that gave me my first and only two hand holds that I ever had in the game. The second being that Meeko would not pull a fake reaction to me like that. The push for the meeko lynch was the biggest surprise of the game for me. I did sort of defend meeko, because I thought that voting him would me in a scum trap. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1583 "2010-05-06T18:54:50Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > I thought you should have laid it on a bit thicker, actually, Maha. Yes, well I was afraid that it would be an obvious scum bussing, then. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1584 "2010-05-06T18:56:01Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > Sorry, but that doesn’t add up in my mind because while the scum start the game with a lot of perfect info, the Town slowly earns it. Not only that, but each bit of stable data that can be leveraged against accrues interest in the potential worth to Town as the game progresses. That’s beside the point. A 4-3 lylo is a lot more advantageous to scum than a 3-2 lylo. When Mhaye went down, Tom scud was already looking like a lost cause, so we were stuck with that situation. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1585 "2010-05-06T18:58:40Z")
Was there a spoiler board? ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1586 "2010-05-06T19:00:50Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Also, I’m also mildly pissed at **Rysto** for not self-protecting. It would have ended up with the same number of mislynches if he was wrong, but with a confirmed Town left if it went three-handed. I couldn’t self-protect. That was a total bluff. Edit: I also couldn’t protect Fictional characters, which meant I couldn’t protect story, the Cop. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1587 "2010-05-06T19:02:23Z")
So once the masons were out, who did you protect? Did we just get that lucky? ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1588 "2010-05-06T19:06:28Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > So once the masons were out, who did you protect? Did we just get that lucky? You got lucky in that I was a selfish idiot for the first two Days. I chose not to protect anybody the first Night on the (terrible) reasoning that if I did get a block, it wouldn’t effect the lynch number and would make it clear that I wasn’t self-protecting. The second Night I thought really hard about protecting Guiri, but I forgot to get my orders in Saturday morning and than didn’t get back to a computer until 2:01 EST that afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1589 "2010-05-06T19:11:03Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > That’s beside the point. A 4-3 lylo is a lot more advantageous to scum than a 3-2 lylo. When Mhaye went down, Tom scud was already looking like a lost cause, so we were stuck with that situation. I’m fairly sure you would not agree if you were on this side of things, but who knows. ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1590 "2010-05-06T19:31:26Z")
sorry, folks but i gotta agree with **cookies** on this one. if there would have been a reveal that certainly would have favored town but with none that was a HUGE scum pick up regardless of the composition of the dead. i mean if both were scum that would be about even but with even one townie in there - sorry, advantage scum. town lives with information and to lose two folks regardless of alignment and get no information is a kick to the crotch. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1591 "2010-05-06T19:31:27Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > Was there a spoiler board? **storyteller0910** created a spoiler board. PM him for details and password. I never visited, otherwise I would tell you myself. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1592 "2010-05-06T19:31:58Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > I couldn’t self-protect. That was a total bluff. > > Edit: I also couldn’t protect Fictional characters, which meant I couldn’t protect story, the Cop. Oh, okay. Then I’m not nearly as pissed at you now. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1593 "2010-05-06T19:33:18Z")
Agreed with **peeker**. The no-death-reveal screwed us, although I don’t know if things would have ended up much different had we known. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1594 "2010-05-06T19:37:12Z")
damn. I was right. dead right. oh well, very interesting game, Mods. I, for one, am not as upset about the no reveals. I am curious though, why were they modkilled? They had each voted that Day. What was the criterion and did Red and mahaloth meet it each Day? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1595 "2010-05-06T19:38:03Z")
but anyways, thanks **sach** and **shadow** for a great game. and good job to the scum team. i just wish i would have been around to participate longer. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1596 "2010-05-06T19:38:07Z")
Meanwhile, I’ve been in training for my Census job all this week. The fact that it is paid training is great. The fact that I feel there is little time after training for domestic chores, let alone internet, sucks. If we have a new game starting up in the next week or so, I will probably sit it out. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1597 "2010-05-06T19:38:08Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > Ok mods, time for your time in the hot seat here with me. How in the heck was the handling of Zeriel and Mhaye not a kick in the crotch to Town? Oh, and since you addressed this to “mods,” I don’t want you to think I’m ignoring you. **sach** made that call and I had no input - I’m just a flunky 🆒 You’ll have to wait for him to chime in. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1598 "2010-05-06T19:38:35Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > Agreed with **peeker**. The no-death-reveal screwed us, although I don’t know if things would have ended up much different had we known. It is hard to know, but the fact that Ed and I were both having a hard time reading Zeriel’s posts as the posts of a Townie may have continued to trip us up even if I’d not woowoo’d on you. And, for me, running into Zeriel’s and Mhaye’s interactions with other players during re-reads and not being able to leverage against them was definitely a contributing factor to me even thinking about going woowoo at all. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1599 "2010-05-06T19:39:31Z")
**Yeah, WTF is woowoo?** ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1600 "2010-05-06T19:39:38Z")
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