# Random Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942 "2010-03-18T21:47:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 81
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1601 "2010-05-06T19:44:03Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > I am curious though, why were they modkilled? They had each voted that Day. What was the criterion and did Red and mahaloth meet it each Day? I could have edited, but I specifically mean Day 3 when Rec had but 1 post ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1602 "2010-05-06T19:48:56Z")
\*\*I was Doc protected? News to me. \*\* What are the rules there? shouldn’t I have gotten some indication? ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1603 "2010-05-06T19:59:39Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > I could have edited, but I specifically mean Day 3 when Rec had but 1 post IIRC, Scum was told that mhaye was modkilled for having only 3 posts across 2 game days. ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1604 "2010-05-06T20:01:27Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > \*\*I was Doc protected? News to me. \*\* > > What are the rules there? shouldn’t I have gotten some indication? I don’t want to say ‘never’, but rarely are those who are protected made aware of it. In my experience at least. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1605 "2010-05-06T20:03:55Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > I don’t want to say ‘never’, but rarely are those who are protected made aware of it. In my experience at least. The only game I can think of was Super Smash Brothers 1. And that was a Scum protection. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1606 "2010-05-06T20:06:27Z")
I believe there were both scum and Town doctors in the Crimson Glyph who gave protection messages. There definitely was a scum one. Also, I’m pretty sure the doc in Lost gave a similar message. Two of Meeko’s earlier games. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1607 "2010-05-06T20:08:04Z")
Red had a lot of posts which really weren’t significant. Day 3 had 1 post after Day 2 had only 1 significant post. And Night 2 and Night 3 had no posts ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1608 "2010-05-06T20:09:26Z")
> [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](#): > > I don’t want to say ‘never’, but rarely are those who are protected made aware of it. In my experience at least. So, given what I thought I knew about protection, being in a masonry, and what a masonry is, even, to say nothing of the fact that my first board game over here was a personal victory… I mean, either you guys need new standards, or I just happened to pick the wrong 7 or so games to play in. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1609 "2010-05-06T20:12:22Z")
God, I played an awful game. I focused too much on Drain, who I should have known I always find suspicious. I let Meeko convince me that he was Scum. I dropped the ball on Story and Jimmy’s cases against Mahaloth until it was too late to convince anyone else. I think the lower content and lower participation from the Scum puts blinders on the Town. Town players who post a lot do suspicous things. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1610 "2010-05-06T20:13:05Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Red had a lot of posts which really weren’t significant. Day 3 had 1 post after Day 2 had only 1 significant post. And Night 2 and Night 3 had no posts Yeah, you probably should have lynched me for that or pressured me, wait Guiri did just that. Sach commented that he wanted to remove me for the game for my Day 5 participation. Honestly though, lurking is a strategy, period. It’s why I ride on lurkers and low posters hard in games where I’m town. Im not on totally on board with mod killing players who are not 100% absent, but it’s sach’s game so it’s his rules I guess. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1611 "2010-05-06T20:13:52Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > So, given what I thought I knew about protection, being in a masonry, and what a masonry is, even, to say nothing of the fact that my first board game over here was a personal victory… > > I mean, either you guys need new standards, or I just happened to pick the wrong 7 or so games to play in. maybe the new standard should be Vig killing meeko and peeker early I’m kidding! just kidding! just hope I don’t get a vig role anytime soon. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1612 "2010-05-06T20:18:00Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > maybe the new standard should be Vig killing meeko and peeker early > > I’m kidding! just kidding! > > just hope I don’t get a vig role anytime soon. Cookies investigating peek day 1 was one of the smartest moves I’ve seen from a cop in recent memory. It completely removes the IMO bullshit argument of “anti-town distraction”. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1613 "2010-05-06T20:19:27Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > maybe the new standard should be Vig killing meeko and peeker early > > I’m kidding! just kidding! > > just hope I don’t get a vig role anytime soon. You just hope Peeker or I don’t get the vig role any time soon. Well, ok, at least when I did it, I only had one bullet in my gun. Sorry Peeks. ---
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1614 "2010-05-06T20:21:13Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Red had a lot of posts which really weren’t significant. Day 3 had 1 post after Day 2 had only 1 significant post. And Night 2 and Night 3 had no posts Yeah, and even though I thought he was scum (of the “clean noser” variety), I still thought it was best to poke him into action rather than risk another modkill. Hard luck Town. I can’t believe **Mahaloth** got away with his “but I voted **Tom** 3 days in a row” ploy. A perfect example of forcing Town cred for bussing. I wish I’d been more convincing in my arguments against scum, I WoW-ed **OreDigger** and **Red** and found them both scummy. I expressed suspicions of **Mahaloth** on several occasions. I guessed **MHaye** was scum based on the worthless **OreDigger** bus. I was almost convinced of **Tom** ’s scumminess but didn’t feel comfortable joining **Red** and **Mahaloth** until after his claim and even then thought they may have been bussing him. But then I was NKed… **Can we see the scum board?** ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1615 "2010-05-06T20:22:51Z")
It’s [sachertorte.proboards.com](http://sachertorte.proboards.com) password is outhouse ---
**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1616 "2010-05-06T20:24:06Z")
> [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > Cookies investigating peek day 1 was one of the smartest moves I’ve seen from a cop in recent memory. It completely removes the IMO bullshit argument of “anti-town distraction”. And yet it still almost got completely buried in Godfather noise and a barking dog. I knew it was what I wanted to do as soon as I got my role, but I did have my doubts about whether that was the best choice of play. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1617 "2010-05-06T20:28:44Z")
Since I was just reminded of it by **sach** mentioning it on the spoilers board, I attempted to use my power on **Storyteller** the night he died. I didn’t think I had any actual power, but I wanted to be on the safe side in case there was some merit to **Meeko** ’s “religious people are protectors” idea. I mean, it’s not like **sach** hasn’t thrown curveballs in games before, and I figured it couldn’t hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1618 "2010-05-06T20:45:54Z")
So, who’s got next? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1619 "2010-05-06T20:47:25Z")
Oh, and rather than registering for the spoiler board now, I’ll reply to a couple of points from there: First, bussing. Bussing in itself might not be worth much Townie cred ( **Mahaloth** ’s argument of “I’m Town, see, I attacked Tom!” was a load of bull), but refraining from bussing will, over the course of a few Days, put a huge neon sign over all of the Scum. Frankly, it’s tough to bus enough for it to not be noticeable (I know this from experience, since my own vote-analysis program would have outed me in Screamers, even though I know exactly how it works and was actively trying to foil it). Second, on Townies hanging their votes on **Cookies** this past Day: That, too, was essential. At LyLo, the Town needs to be unanimous, or the Scum can flip the vote at the last minute, and if the unconfirmed Town don’t all follow the lone confirmed, they won’t be unanimous. That said, though, that doesn’t remove responsibility from all the other folks: What they should have been doing was making the best cases they could for whomever they were most suspicious of, and urging **Cookies** to follow their suggestions, and I didn’t see enough of that. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@Red\_Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1620 "2010-05-06T20:52:18Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Second, on Townies hanging their votes on **Cookies** this past Day: That, too, was essential. At LyLo, the Town needs to be unanimous, or the Scum can flip the vote at the last minute, and if the unconfirmed Town don’t all follow the lone confirmed, they won’t be unanimous. That said, though, that doesn’t remove responsibility from all the other folks: What they should have been doing was making the best cases they could for whomever they were most suspicious of, and urging **Cookies** to follow their suggestions, and I didn’t see enough of that. I urged Cookies to follow my suggestions and refused to relent until the last day :D. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=80) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942.md?page=82)