# Random Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942 "2010-03-18T21:47:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 1046
**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942/1046 "2010-04-10T23:06:59Z")
The reason I did a WoW on you was that when looking at my list of remaining players I realized I’d hardly noticed you throughout this game and that alone raised my suspicions (apart from **Cookies** , only **MHaye** has posted less that the two of us but he manages to get in right at the end of the Day with a last minute vote so it leaves an impression). So far we’ve managed to lynch town players who’ve made some sort of mistake or bad play which caught our attention but we haven’t found a single scum. It’s time to also look at players who may be attempting to fly under the radar and not attracting much attention. Your arguments are good, I admit I re-read your posts with the idea that you could be scum and so looked at you through that lens. I did notice that you dismissed a number of cases with the same argument, which you now say is your MO so I guess you’re consistent. I saw a scum knowing that a case was baseless or weak and challenging the accuser while sometimes appearing to defend the accused. In many of the cases I could think of possible scum motivations so it seemed like you were just rattling off the same argument case after case but not getting your hands dirty by actually coming up with plausible answers to your own questions. > [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > I’ve been poking and prodding where I have perceived a lot of players have been turning a blind eye to. Just because my comments and criticisms have been largely ignored this game, does not imply that they are any less valid or designed not to provoke attention. I can see where you’re coming from here, I’ve poked a number of players but have also had little or no response (until now) - it’s impossible to get a read on players who ignore you. This dialog is helping. The “clean noser” thing was brought up by **sach** who was town in that game: > [@Scum mafia: On Cecil pond \[Game Over\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/scum-mafia-on-cecil-pond-game-over/526202/1180): > > - It is Day Three. I feel that Day Three is a good time to start looking at ‘clean nosers.’ I define ‘clean nosers’ to distinguish them from ‘lurkers.’ Lurkers are those players who post little. Often low posts are due to real life reasons rather than alignment. Clean Nosers on the other hand post enough not to be labeled a lurker, but post and vote in a way to avoid controversy and keep their nose clean. > > This is not to say that I am suspicious of these people yet, only that I have a small impression of them so far for this game (which could very well be _my_ fault). > > I encourage others to look at the gameplay list and identify the players who you haven’t been noticing. Not that that makes them scummy, only that you need to pay closer attention to them and perhaps look and see if your lack of noticing them is signs of a ‘clean noser.’ > [@Red\_Skeezix](#): > > Plus you are ignoring why I voted Chronos, which is to say he made big puffy case based on nothing, and then voted an established bandwagon. It looked to me like he was creating an opening for a bandwagon to start. Without taking responsibility for it himself (smudge and bluster). I took that for granted as the objective of any intentional mischaracterization would be to create suspicion around a player and possibly generate votes. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/random-mafia/532942)._