Rank the proposed baseball rule changes!

Oh for sure football used to be a really different sport. However, it evolved to what it is now, and of course there’s more to it than just having more guys around. There is a natural upward pressure on the number of available guys because the advantages of separate defensive and offensive teams are too overwhelming.

There just isn’t any chance at all, none, that the DH will somehow lead to separate offensive and defensive teams. It hasn’t come close to happening to 45 years and it’s not close to happening now.

Similar things are evident in other sports, of course. The best goalie in NHL history wouldn’t get the best forward in the AHL today.

“Starting all extra innings with a runner on 2nd base”

I have no really strong opinions of the other rule changes but I really don’t want MLB to turn into rec league softball. We also started with a 1-1 count. Hopefully MLB didn’t get that memo.

Interesting article in FiveThirtyEight today on the contribution the increase in foul balls has made to slowing down the game. There’s been a 20% increase in the number of foul balls since 1998. In 2017 for the first time, the number of foul balls exceeded the number put in play, and last year was even worse.

There’s not really a rule they could make to speed up that part of the game. One factor that could be controlled (if MLB wanted to) is the shrinking foul territory at stadiums. Looking at 21 stadiums that were replaced or renovated, the new stadium had over 20% less foul territory than its predecessor, meaning fewer of the foul balls were caught for outs. Of course, a foul fly-out is pretty damn boring and catching a souvenir foul is exciting, so changing this isn’t advisable. And MLB is unlikely to do anything that cuts down on offense.

I personally advocate a rule allowing the way excessive fouls were handled in 1900, when Reds pitcher Bill Phillips punched Roy Thomas of the Phillies after he fouled off a dozen pitches in one at-bat.

Well, if it’s a contact sport you want, how about George Carlin’s suggestion that the better bring the bat along on the base path? “Come into second base like this and see how many double plays you break up!” :slight_smile:

Sometimes there are radical changes that need to be made to compensate for how the game has evolved over time. There was nothing inherently wrong about the evolution of making multiple pitching changes in an inning - that’s good strategy. But it’s bad for baseball as a spectator sport, and it’s even worse in a digital age in which baseball is becoming essentially as boring to watch as golf.

I get that part of the intrigue of professional baseball is its history and its records, but we’ve already seen a number of changes over the years that have significantly changed the game. And I think change is good. It’s better to change - even radically - than to let the sport sink into obscurity.

Baseball has to move faster. The games have to finish sooner, or more and more people will stop watching.

I like the idea of the pitch clock, but that’s just a start. We should consider experimenting in other ways. For example, why not just shorten the season - 162 games is insane when you think about it. Why not just play, say, 87 games. Each team plays every opponent 3 times. Do away with AL and NL and instead have a Western and Eastern Conference, like in the NBA.

As for extra innings, the first two extra innings could be just like regular innings. After the 11th inning, a home run contest - like penalty kicks in FIFA. Either a pitching machine throws a pitch or a team’s own pitcher could throw the pitch, which might make it more interesting as it would require coordination between a team’s pitcher and slugger. Either that or teams flip a coin and play sudden-death extras, with teams alternating first at-bat in each additional inning. So let’s say the visiting team wins the coin toss and bats first, after that, the home team would get first at bat, and then the visitor would get the first at bat in the following inning and so on.

With regard to pitching changes, perhaps we don’t put a limit on pitching changes per game; instead, put a limit on the total number of pitching changes for an entire series, whether it’s a regular season 3-game series or a post-season series. For example, we could say that a team generally makes about, say, 3 - 4 pitching changes per game, right? If some saber metrics wunderkind manager wants to show off his IQ in game one by making 6 or 7 pitching changes, fine, let him. But he’ll pay for it on the back end. An obvious question is, well what happens if he’s exhausted his pitchers and injuries become a factor later. That’s a tricky one and I’m not sure I have an answer. I’m sure some teams would fake injuries - perhaps there could be a rule requiring an injured player to sit out the remainder of a series. But I think that this approach would encourage managers to be economical early in the series and make more decisions later, which is actually when these kinds of decisions become more interesting and meaningful anyway. If a series is down to the wire and going into the final games, then managers on both sides have earned the right to have more of an influence on the game. And fans would probably have more patience with pitching changes.

But there is no reason to believe that would impress anyone. Baseball had a 154-game season from 1901 to 1961/1962, except for a shortened WWI season, and in that period of time became the biggest spectator sport played by humans in the entire world. The introduction of the 162-game season didn’t dampen enthusiasm a bit; baseball got more and more popular. There is zero reason to believe a long season bothers anyone, or that a significantly shorter season would impress anyone.

Baseball has only seen interest flatten (not really drop - just stop growing) in the last ten years. What’s changed? Longer games, more strikeouts (the increase in foul balls being connected to strikeouts.) That’s basically it. If you cut down a little on those, I honestly believe the game will substantially improve. Turning it into softball will not help interest at all.

One of the issues with foul balls is stadium design, which will be a bear to change in even the medium-term.

Any other options to impact this? Lowering the mound or moving it back to influence better contact? Maybe couple that with a deader ball to get better contact on average but keep homeruns the exception instead of the rule.

Tricky thing to do, though, and not radically upset the balance of the game. They did lower it once, so it is not without precedent.

Well, I don’t think it will ever change at all. The reason there’s less foul ground isn’t that anyone set out to reduce foul pop outs, it’s that less foul ground brings fans closer to the action, making the seats and experience better, which means fans are happier and you can make more money. Which I’m fine with.

A dead ball won’t help. Strikeouts are up because hitters are more willing to strike out, that’s true… but they are up even more so because pitchers are being selected for the ability to strike men out, which wasn’t always the case in the past. A dead ball would largely hurt hitters, and baseball doesn’t need less scoring. Scoring is NOT very high right now. It’s a hair under 4.5 runs/team/game, which is historically average.

Honestly, I don’t know how you can reduce strikeouts without really changing the sport, like moving the pitcher back another foot. (Lowering the mound might help, I’m not sure; I’ve read conflicting opinions on what that would do.) It may change on its own, as these things tend to do, but i don’t think it will change very much.

I’m all in favor of a pitch clock.

I attend about 15 AAA games a year. It’s been in use there the last 3 years. In that entire time I’ve seen a ball called exactly once because of the pitch clock. The clock is visible to the fans but it’s unobtrusive and you really have to know where to look for it. They don’t make a big deal of it like the play clock in football or the shot clock in basketball.

It’s very noticeable that the pitchers work faster and I’ve been told they’ve studied it and it’s decreased the length of AAA games by about 5 minutes on average. I’ve also been watching major league games where the announcers have noticed that rookie pitchers coming up from the minors in the last year or so work faster even after they get to the majors and don’t have the clock on them because they’ve been trained to do so in the minors. It simply works and it works well.

I completely agree. The HR rate is, I think, now even higher than it was during the Steroid Era, and MLB believes that fans like home runs (and they do!) But, for a variety of reasons, the predominant offensive strategy today is to produce runs via home runs, which are exciting when they happen, but seems to be leading to a game that’s otherwise full of strikeouts, foul balls, and routine fly-ball outs.

“Manufacturing a run” is, I suspect, harder than ever (with frequent relief pitchers, pitchers throwing to first more often, and defensive shifts all factors), and that probably all feeds into why teams have a greater focus on the HR.

FiveThirtyEight has another rule change proposal today, to limit teams to 10 pitchers on the 25-person roster. It sounds ridiculous at first, but I found myself slightly swayed by the end. If nothing else, it would probably increase the frequency of position players putting in an emergency shift at pitcher, which is always amusing.
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[li]10 pitchers on the roster[/li][li]an Emergency Pitcher is designated who can enter a game in specific situations, similar to hockey’s emergency goalie rule[/li][li]position players aren’t allowed to pitch to a greater number of batters than the number of plate appearances they’d recorded so far on the season as hitters. This is to prevent teams from gaming the system by calling pitchers “position players.”[/li][li]additional pitchers are allowed when the roster expands in September, but with strict limitations[/li][/ul]

I would set that number at 11, but honestly, I’m all for it. the idea of stepping it down is a godo one - 12 for a few years, then 11, then ten. I like the Emergency Pitcher Rule too, in principle; I might tweak it a little to allow for a real pitcher on the 40-man roster to be designated as the EP.

I like this more than the three batter rule.

I like this proposed rule change more than any of the others so far. Basically it changes the strategy of the game without effecting the game on the field. Decreasing the number of strikeouts will make the games more interesting and will probably shorten games over all. I don’t see any real down side as a fan.

Extending the DH to the National League. Changing the DH rules (either by extending it to the NL or removing it from the AL) is a waste of political capital. I expect MLB is trolling us. Personally, I’d remove the DH, but require a pitcher to pitch wrong-handed to another pitcher. Or else put the ball on a T. :wink:

20-second pitch clock. Yes, this is fine.

Reducing mound visits to 5 from 6. Not going to make a big difference. How often does that sixth visit get used?

Requiring pitchers to face a minimum of 3 batters. No. It would help, but I’d prefer a better solution–only allow substitutions at the end of a half inning.

Starting all extra innings with a runner on 2nd base. This is insane. It’d be hassle for the statistics. I’d rather end the game with a tie after the 9th inning, or maybe 12th.

More ideas:
No stepping out of the box. Once your at-bat has started, you’re in the box.

Fouling out. There’s not enough penalty for fouling. Every foul is a strike.

Those might seem harsh on batters, but if pitchers can only change at the half inning, I think it balances.

rule changes are now official , some start this year, others in 2020

MLB tweaks some rules now, more coming in '20

3 batters minimum for a pitcher starts in 2020

And, the three-batter minimum is the only one of the changes for '19 or '20 that does anything to address pace of the game. :stuck_out_tongue:

The roster limits are fine, though I’m not sure why going to 26 players was necessary. Whatever, maybe that will reduce roster manipulation.

The roster limit increase was probably a bone for the players’ union, to help keep the peace. The extra man is going to make minimum wage or only a little more, anyway. And, it gives managers a little breathing room with the short benches that are forced by 12 or 13 man pitching staffs.

I do like limiting September call-ups to a max roster of 28, not 40 - that will make playoff races a little more fair.