# Ranking the most powerful beings in in Star Trek universe

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871
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**Created:** [April 16, 2002, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871 "2002-04-16T02:19:14Z")
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### Author: ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2002, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/1 "2002-04-16T02:19:14Z")

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Let’s see

The Q

The Organians

The God who killed an entire race in rage because they killed a mortal he loved

Trelane

Giant head creatures who beefed up Barkley’s intellect to bring the Enterprise to them

The Metrons

What and/or who else?

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### Author: ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2002, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/2 "2002-04-16T02:31:28Z")

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Lwaxana Troi.

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### Author: ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2002, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/3 "2002-04-16T02:51:24Z")

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_Lwaxana Troi._

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

How about that Traveller guy, the one that took Wesley Crusher with him into another dimension? (Okay, so he’s not as powerful as Q and the like, but still…)

The Pagh Wraiths? They took out a whole Dominion fleet with a thought…

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### Author: ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2002, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/4 "2002-04-16T03:46:47Z")

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The Prophets are certainly more powerful than Q. As a matter of fact, so are probably most of the others on your list. And let’s not forget about Apollo.

But of course, the _most_ powerful being in the Star Trek universe is Montgomery Scott. [sup]^[/sup]:D[sup]^[/sup]

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### Author: ![Neptune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@Neptune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neptune)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2002, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/5 "2002-04-16T04:21:34Z")

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The writers

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### Author: ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2002, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/6 "2002-04-16T04:23:00Z")

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Jeri Ryan’s breasts

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### Author: ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2002, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/7 "2002-04-16T05:38:41Z")

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There was a character named “Nagilum” in the second-season _TNG_ episode “Where Silence Has Lease” who was powerful enough to open dimensional portals, warp space, kill Crewman Expendable with a thought, etc.

The movies are a good source. There was V’Ger (based on Nomad, who was pretty tough in its own right), the probe from the fourth movie, the “God” creature in the fifth movie.

And Jeri Ryan’s breasts have a symbiotic relationship, dependent for their power on a shared essence with Jeri Ryan’s ass.

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### Author: ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2002, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/8 "2002-04-16T07:12:51Z")

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The Klingons.

Oh, wait, I thought the thread title said “Weakest beings”… sorry.

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### Author: ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)
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Based on the principle that one of the most powerful forces known to man is compound interest, I will add the Tribbles to this list.

🙂

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### Author: ![BooBoo316](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e0b2c6/32.png) [@BooBoo316](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BooBoo316)
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Got to be the humans. Every time a nasty space beastie or time-space rift or whatever threatens the universe who always has to fix it? I mean, when was the last time the Romulans saved the universe?

Although, like **KneadToKnow** said, a good case can be made for the Tribbles.

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### Author: ![Daniel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Daniel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daniel)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2002, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/11 "2002-04-16T15:00:16Z")

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the Enterprise-D holodeck. It is capable of creating a life form (Moriarty) that can use the power of its own creator. And can only be conquered by a cube on Picard’s desk.

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### Author: ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2002, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/12 "2002-04-16T15:33:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by astro \*  
> \*\*Let’s see
> 
> The Q
> 
> The Organians
> 
> The God who killed an entire race in rage because they killed a mortal he loved
> 
> Trelane
> 
> Giant head creatures who beefed up Barkley’s intellect to bring the Enterprise to them
> 
> The Metrons
> 
> What and/or who else? \*\*

I think the tendancy to always win in the end gives **humans** the top spot. Even against the almighty Borg.

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### Author: ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2002, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/13 "2002-04-16T15:50:42Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \*  
> \*\*There was a character named “Nagilum” in the second-season _TNG_ episode “Where Silence Has Lease” who was powerful enough to open dimensional portals, warp space, kill Crewman Expendable with a thought, etc.  
> \*\*

And actually that character (IIRC) harkens back to the days of Kirk and Spock et al. The Next Generation eppisode was basically a replay of events that happened to the crew of the original series.

How about that midget guy on the glowing sphere of a space ship from the original series? Anyone remember him? His ship was immense, and he had a little scarry face mock-up to show people so they’d think he was mean and ferocious (which was featured at the end of the credits of the show, I think). He was pretty deadly.

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### Author: ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)
#### Post date: [April 16, 2002, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/14 "2002-04-16T16:24:13Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Eonwe \*  
> \*\*
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> And actually that character (IIRC) harkens back to the days of Kirk and Spock et al. The Next Generation eppisode was basically a replay of events that happened to the crew of the original series.
> 
> How about that midget guy on the glowing sphere of a space ship from the original series? Anyone remember him? His ship was immense, and he had a little scarry face mock-up to show people so they’d think he was mean and ferocious (which was featured at the end of the credits of the show, I think). He was pretty deadly. \*\*

10 points if you remember who played him!

Hint - if Sheriff Taylor got married…

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### Author: ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)
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Clint Howard (Ron’s brother)

As metioned in other threads, he has guest starred in most (all?) the Trek incarnations.

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### Author: ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2002, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/16 "2002-04-17T05:53:11Z")

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That “midget guy” was Balok.

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### Author: ![The\_Controvert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dec6dc/32.png) [@The\_Controvert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Controvert)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2002, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/17 "2002-04-17T18:21:53Z")

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The guy who killed an entire race in rage was Kevin Uxbridge.

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### Author: ![Yondan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/278dde/32.png) [@Yondan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yondan)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2002, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/18 "2002-04-17T18:34:40Z")

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Well, that was his human name. He was really a being called a “Doud”.

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### Author: ![Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tyrrell_mcallister/32/16772_2.png) [@Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyrrell_McAllister)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2002, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/19 "2002-04-18T01:04:03Z")

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Don’t forget the creatures of the TOS episode “Charlie X”. They were able to make a human powerful enough to destroy spaceships lightyears away with a thought, and they were evidently still more powerful themselves.

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### Author: ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)
#### Post date: [April 18, 2002, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ranking-the-most-powerful-beings-in-in-star-trek-universe/103871/20 "2002-04-18T12:05:15Z")

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Gotta go with the others who say humans! Humans are weaker physically and mentally than most other species and yet they are able to overcome the most powerful of enemies.  
Lets face it The Q fear humans for that reason.

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