# Rant or Trolling? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 24, 2002, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612 "2002-07-24T18:00:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/21 "2002-07-24T19:21:44Z")
**Lib** , very funny and all, but how 'bout answering the objection in my original thread? I know you’re capable of debate, why not engage me in it if you think that adding a link is so onerous. **Drone** , “nurse a grudge”? Please. **Lib** is a poster who’s stuff I enjoy and go out of my way to read. But if I hadn’t provided more than one cite, someone would have come along and assumed I was just jumping on **Sparc** when the issue’s wider than just his post. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/22 "2002-07-24T19:23:52Z")
This is all some sort of… Aw fuck it. This is more than old. ---
**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/23 "2002-07-24T19:24:05Z")
I’m just waiting for the thread from **Ferris** or **Sparc** entitled ‘A modern symbological assessment of the ontological argument for making an arse of oneself’. Let in end, chaps. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/24 "2002-07-24T19:29:15Z")
Ya know what? I’m just gonna lie down over hear and watch TV until this little trend passes. Let me know when it’s over. _Click_ Hey, look! I haven’t seen this episode of _The Sopranos_ yet. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/25 "2002-07-24T19:31:48Z")
What’s this about Muslim/Christian/Shogun Warriors in GD? ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/26 "2002-07-24T19:34:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > > **Drone** , “nurse a grudge”? Please. **Lib** is a poster who’s stuff I enjoy and go out of my way to read. But if I hadn’t provided more than one cite, someone would have come along and assumed I was just jumping on **Sparc** when the issue’s wider than just his post. > > Fenris No, no. See I don’t think that **you** are the one nursing a grudge. I think that I am agreeing with you here. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/27 "2002-07-24T20:10:06Z")
Aaak. **Binary** : You’re right, I completely misread your post. Sorry about that. Mea culpa 🙂 But I don’t believe that **Lib** is holding a grudge either. I hope that he’s just zinging me, which is fine, but I’d still appreciate a serious answer from him too, especially in light of those comments by **Tuba and Coldie** that I found about a similar issue. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/28 "2002-07-24T20:51:46Z")
Fenris I love you this much. […steps forward and gives Fenris big ol’ hug…] I knew that you, above all others, would appreciate my gift to you — this thread. And you’re probably right to complain. I was, as far as I know, the originator of at least the modern parody threads (going all the way back to my parody of Phaedrus). And I’ve been told by the administration (you can find it on ATMB) that my pit parodies are within SDMB guidelines. (I had been concerned that they might violate the exact quote rule.) But you? You’re one of my heros here. And don’t you ever think otherwise. Got it? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/29 "2002-07-24T20:55:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Ahhh, now this is making sense. I was wondering why Libertarian was so quick to jump in Fenris’ shit, until I saw that Fenris had complained to Libertarian about the way that parodies had been handled in the past. Based on the link (Oooh, look, this URL thingie works!) seems like a while to nurse a grudge. Moron. ---
**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/30 "2002-07-24T20:56:31Z")
\ Gen-X-er #1: “Well, this is just _wonderful_.” Gen-X-er #2: “Dude, are you being sarcastic?” Gen-X-er #1: “I don’t know anymore.” \ ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/31 "2002-07-24T21:05:48Z")
Aw, it’s something you see all the time on MBs, Ham. Guy meanders in and sees the two old timers having at it, and he thinks they’re fighting. Have the guy attack Fen, and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/32 "2002-07-24T21:22:53Z")
> [@](#): > > I am a past vice-assistant undersecretary of the Illuminati. I currently occupy the Limbaugh chair at the Schlessinger Institute for Hysterical Paranoids, where I am engaged in post-doctoral work on Aztec relations with Poland in the 12th century. I have served as advisor to eight presidents and four kings on matters of posting protocol. I have more than one hundred magic rings collected from various cereal boxes, and I know several liberals personally. Liar. The Aztecs were busy moving from Northwest Mexico to Tenochtitlán and Lake Texcoco under the direction of their tribal leader-deity Huitzilopotchtli during the twelfth century. Domestic issues took the fore in this period; they had no time for foreign relations. Also, Poland, during the twelfth century, was rife with internal disorder and foreign invasions. The Piast Dynasty, formed in the tenth century was disolved in this era and Poland wasn’t reunited until 1330’s under Kazimierz II. I suspect the Poles also had little or no time for foreign relations. I’d think a past vice-assistant undersecretary of the Illuminati would know that. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/33 "2002-07-24T21:43:23Z")
> [@](#): > > Liar. Whore. > [@](#): > > The Aztecs were busy moving from Northwest Mexico to Tenochtitlán and Lake Texcoco under the direction of their tribal leader-deity Huitzilopotchtli during the twelfth century. That’s quite impossible since the fourth sun would not yet have risen. It is widely believed among neo-Huitzilopotchtlian scholars that alien life forms descended by way of an asteroid, which created the swamp where they found their city. > [@](#): > > Domestic issues took the fore in this period; they had no time for foreign relations. It is believed among scholars that the Northwest Tribes maintained communications with the lost tribes by means of eagles carrying messages carved on stone boulders. It is eminently reasonable that these eagles might have flown off-course and arrived, admittedly weary, in Poland. > [@](#): > > Also, Poland, during the twelfth century, was rife with internal disorder and foreign invasions. Yes, that’s true. And as you say yourself: > [@](#): > > The Piast Dynasty, formed in the tenth century was disolved in this era and Poland wasn’t reunited until 1330’s under Kazimierz II. Which is exactly why communication with the Aztecs was so critically important. The most successful pre-Kazimierz competitor would have been the one who could count on Aztec support. > [@](#): > > I suspect the Poles also had little or no time for foreign relations. I trust that I have allayed your suspicions. > [@](#): > > I’d think a past vice-assistant undersecretary of the Illuminati would know that. Sorry. My subcommittee kept tabs on conspiricists only. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/34 "2002-07-24T21:48:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by UncleBeer \* > > Also, Poland, during the twelfth century, was rife with internal disorder and foreign invasions. The Piast Dynasty, formed in the tenth century was disolved in this era and Poland wasn’t reunited until 1330’s under Kazimierz II. I suspect the Poles also had little or no time for foreign relations. Actually it was Kazimierz III ( Casimir the Great r. 1333-1370 ), not Kazimierz II ( Casimir the Just, r. 1177-1194 ). And it was actually his father Wladyslaw I Lokietek ( Ladislas the Elbow-High, r. 1306-1333 ) who formally reunited the realm in 1320 with his elevation by the Pope as first formal _Rex Poloniae_. And Kazimierz III is generally considered the last of the Piasts. After his death the line descended through his sister Elzbieta to his nephew Ludwik I ( Louis of Anjou, King of Hungary and Poland, 1370-1382 ). What? What? Of COURSE it’s relevant!! 😛 - Tamerlane ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/35 "2002-07-24T22:13:25Z")
I have nothing to say on this matter. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/36 "2002-07-24T22:15:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Libertarian \* > \*\*Moron. \*\* See, I don’t think that you get to just do that. Tell me that I am wrong, tell me why I am wrong, shit tell me why I am a moron. Look up other posts of mine and point out the terrible error of my ways and display to the world what a moron I am. Or is this another of your joke thingies that I didn’t get? ---
**Author:** ![Sparc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Sparc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparc)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/37 "2002-07-24T22:20:33Z")
> [@](#): > > […] Look up other posts of mine […] In the global context of this all here, _that_ was priceless. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/38 "2002-07-24T22:53:20Z")
So your theory here is what? I know that I’m a moron and should post links to prove it? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/39 "2002-07-24T23:02:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Libertarian \* > \*\*Fenris > > I love you this much. […steps forward and gives Fenris big ol’ hug…] I knew that you, above all others, would appreciate my gift to you — this thread. > > And you’re probably right to complain. I was, as far as I know, the originator of at least the modern parody threads (going all the way back to my parody of Phaedrus). And I’ve been told by the administration (you can find it on ATMB) that my pit parodies are within SDMB guidelines. (I had been concerned that they might violate the exact quote rule.) > > But you? You’re one of my heros here. And don’t you ever think otherwise. Got it? 🙂 \*\* Ditto **Lib**! 🙂 I know the admins have OK’d your parody threads and I’d be disappointed as hell if they were suddenly disallowed, but I’m still concerned by that lack of a link. I love your parody threads, I go outta my way to read 'm. But 1) I find it frustrating as hell to try to guess who’s being taken on. As **Sua** said in my original thread (paraphrased) “Parodies aren’t funny unless you know who/what’s being parodied” 2) You’re well known for your parody threads: people see 'em and _know_ that it’s a patented **Lib Parody Thread** [sup]tm[/sup] but if I did one, they’d just assume I’d gone (further) 'round the bend and 3) If I try to think like a troll would, I can think of _dozens_ of ways to abuse the “parody threads are ok” rule. A simple link would stop all those issues. You’re the trendsetter on parody threads (they go back to PHAEDRUS???!! Kidding aside, if that thread’s survived the boards I wanna see that one!), so where you lead, others’ll follow. Think about it, 'k? 🙂 Fenris PS: On preview…You called **Uncle Beer** a _whore_? You are in SOOooo much trouble! ---
**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612/40 "2002-07-24T23:11:46Z")
Guys, irony is dead. You’ve exhumed the poor creature and are now fighting over its worm-eaten remains, you jackals. These parody threads disgust me. At the risk of invoking Godwin’s Law, this is just the sort of thread you-know-who would post. If he were alive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-or-trolling/120612.md?page=3)