# Rant. Probably Vista SP1's fault. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 14, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-probably-vista-sp1s-fault/445344 "2008-04-14T19:22:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-probably-vista-sp1s-fault/445344/21 "2008-04-14T23:55:31Z")
[QUOTE=BubbaDog] Mirroring is slower but a crashed HD doesn’t lose the data. [/QUOTE] [Nitpick] In the interests of fighting ignorance, I’ll point out that this is only partially true: a mirror set / RAID 1 will be marginally slower on writes because it’s got to write twice but those writes take place simultaneously, not sequentially; but it can be significantly faster on pure reads because it can read two seperate parts of the file simultaneously. You usually need a proper RAID controller for this, though, rather than the software RAID that is in many PCB BIOSes. [/Nitpick] ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-probably-vista-sp1s-fault/445344/22 "2008-04-15T00:06:35Z")
I’m amazed that this thread managed to get progressively less interesting. ---
**Author:** ![FarmerChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FarmerChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerChick)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-probably-vista-sp1s-fault/445344/23 "2008-04-15T02:22:52Z")
[QUOTE=Smeghead] I’m amazed that this thread managed to get progressively less interesting. [/QUOTE] No shit. Computer geek always takes the fun out of a really good rant. Next they will be arguing over who has the better pocket protector. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Subway\_Prophet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Subway\_Prophet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subway_Prophet)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-probably-vista-sp1s-fault/445344/24 "2008-04-15T13:10:35Z")
[QUOTE=FarmerChick] No shit. Computer geek always takes the fun out of a really good rant. Next they will be arguing over who has the better pocket protector. :smack: [/QUOTE] _My_ pocket protector was custom-molded to hold my HP-48 calculator. Which runs Emacs. ---
**Author:** ![Jayn\_Newell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jayn\_Newell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jayn_Newell)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-probably-vista-sp1s-fault/445344/25 "2008-04-15T13:20:53Z")
Who needs a pocket protector? It’s not like any real geek still carries pens–that’s what computers are for stupid 😉 ---
**Author:** ![FarmerChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@FarmerChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerChick)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-probably-vista-sp1s-fault/445344/26 "2008-04-15T14:20:23Z")
[QUOTE=Jayn\_Newell] Who needs a pocket protector? It’s not like any real geek still carries pens–that’s what computers are for stupid 😉 [/QUOTE] I call bullshit. [Cite](http://www.pocketprotectors.com/Index.htm)😛 [QUOTE=Subway Prophet] My pocket protector was custom-molded to hold my HP-48 calculator. Which runs Emacs. [/QUOTE] I’ve ordered this just for you! 🙂[Present](http://www.pocketprotectors.com/NerdPack.htm) ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-probably-vista-sp1s-fault/445344/27 "2008-04-15T14:59:41Z")
[QUOTE=t-bonham@scc.net] Maybe it’s the fault of the person who was dumb enough to buy Vista in the first place? [/QUOTE] Just an FYI from the Middle-Aged, Middle-Class, Mid-American Real World: Computers now come with Vista. Period. If you want to buy a new computer, it comes with Vista. Period. If you want a new computer with XP, you have to special-order it, and it costs extra, and that’s only if you know in the first place that it’s possible even to obtain a computer that does not have Vista installed on it. Because out here in the heartland, Best Buy and Circuit City and Wal-Mart sure aren’t gonna tell you. I have a very dear Church Lady friend who is grimly soldiering on with her ME, which is no longer up to the challenge of today’s Internet, because she’s terrified of using Vista, and equally terrified of calling Dell or somebody and special-ordering an XP. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-probably-vista-sp1s-fault/445344/28 "2008-04-15T15:57:53Z")
Dell, Small Business Solution, Vostro. No hard work at all. ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-probably-vista-sp1s-fault/445344/29 "2008-04-15T17:32:15Z")
[QUOTE=drachillix] RAID - 0 is striping, not mirroring. He has actually effectively increased his reliability by doing so. [/QUOTE] You have that backwards. Mirroring increases read speeds and increases reliability. Striping increases read and write speeds at the expense of reliability. The easy way to remember is that in RAID-0, the 0 stands for how many files you’ll be able to recover if one of your disks crashes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rant-probably-vista-sp1s-fault/445344.md?page=1)