# Rantings about stupid nuclear reporting, and I want to bitchslap somebody, also other crap **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077 "2011-03-26T19:11:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/461 "2011-03-31T13:31:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*‘Ethereal Blue Flash’ \*\* > > Nuclear experts call such reactions “localized criticality.” They consist of a burst of heat, radiation and sometimes an “ethereal blue flash,” according to the U.S. Energy Department’s Los Alamos National Laboratory[website](http://www.lanl.gov/news/index.php/fuseaction/home.story/story_id/1054). Twenty-one workers worldwide have been killed by criticality accidents since 1945, the site said. > > The IAEA acknowledged “they don’t have clear signs that show such a phenomenon is happening,” Edano said. > > [Radioactive chlorine](http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/files/en20110325-6.pdf) found March 25 in the No. 1 turbine building suggests chain reactions continued after the reactor shut down, physicist [Ferenc Dalnoki-Veress](http://cns.miis.edu/staff/dalnoki-veress_ferenc.htm) of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies in Monterey, [California](http://topics.bloomberg.com/california/), wrote in a March 28 [paper](http://lewis.armscontrolwonk.com/files/2011/03/Cause_of_the_high_Cl38_Radioactivity.pdf). Radioactive chlorine has a half-life of 37 minutes, according to the report. [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-30/record-high-levels-of-radiation-found-in-sea-near-crippled-nuclear-reactor.html](http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-30/record-high-levels-of-radiation-found-in-sea-near-crippled-nuclear-reactor.html) “Radioactive chlorine has a half-life of 37 minutes”, which is why when it turns up in water leaking from a reactor (or fuel ponds), smart people get concerned. Spent fuel rods or a reactor core that is shut down, neither should be producing short lived isotopes. This is science. Now that the rabid moonbats will try to come up with ANYTHING to deny this is happening, that is a little scary. Because they might be the ones in charge of the reactors right now. Insane people, who are refusing to use neutron detectors, or to publish real data, or let third parties analyze the radioactivity. Because they don’t want it to be happening or something. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/462 "2011-03-31T13:33:40Z")
But yeah, the REAL danger here is the words on your screen. That’s certainly far more dangerous that the situation at the plant. That’s the thing that gets some people all riled up. “HE POSTED SOME WORDS MAN! SOMEBODY HAS TO DO SOMETHING!” Cause we all know, that unlike radioactive shit from a nuclear reactor, words can spread around the world and cause all kinds of damage to people, property and livestock. Think of the calves. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/463 "2011-03-31T14:30:26Z")
[QUOTE=FXMastermind] I guess radiation in the ocean doesn’t count. Yeah, that’s it. Let’s just ignore the radioactive material dumping into the ocean, then everything looks great. [/QUOTE] They aren’t dumping it into the ocean, it’s leaking into the ocean. And from what I’ve read, that’s probably the best place it could go, if it had to leak out anywhere. The ocean, in case you hadn’t noticed, is vast. Locally, stuff like shellfish might not be edible, as they will pick up concentrations far beyond the legal limits, but overall I don’t see it as a major issue right now. From your own cite: > [@](#): > > Contamination of seawater found near the 40-year-old plant has increased. Radioactive iodine rose to 4,385 times the regulated safety limit yesterday from 2,572 times on Tuesday, Nishiyama said. No fishing is occurring nearby and the sea is dispersing the iodine so there is no health threat, he said. So…no health threat (unless you were to go fishing there and eat your catch). > [@](#): > > There was 180 becquerel per cubic centimeter of radioactive iodine-131 found in the ocean 330 meters (1,082 feet) south of the plant. Drinking one liter of fresh water with that level would be equivalent to getting double the annual dose of radiation a person typically receives. Of course, if you drank one liter of the sea water they are actually talking about then getting double the annual dose of radiation for a typical person would be the least of your worries. > [@](#): > > “Radioactive chlorine has a half-life of 37 minutes”, which is why when it turns up in water leaking from a reactor (or fuel ponds), smart people get concerned. Actually, maybe smart people can tell me why here. I mean, sure, it’s a concern that this stuff is leaking from somewhere…but 37 minute half-life particles will rapidly decay, right? Yeah, it will be a very energetic…but only for a short while, right? Correct me if I’m wrong here, but doesn’t 37 minute half-life mean that after 37 minutes there are half the radioactive nuclei present? And after 37 more minutes half of that? And so on? (Full disclosure: I did really poorly at chemistry in college. It was a required series of classes, but I barely squeaked by, and that by basically cramming for tests and then dumping everything I learned strictly for the test in an alcohol induced blow out shortly after) -XT ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/464 "2011-03-31T14:37:01Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > How can you guys still not think this guy is trolling? I am honestly bewildered at this point. Oh, I know he’s trolling, and fully appreciate he will ignore or deny anything presented to him. My only concern is that some passerby to this thread might see him make uncontested statetments and not realise that FXM is just making it up as he goes along. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/465 "2011-03-31T14:39:56Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Actually, maybe smart people can tell me why here. I mean, sure, it’s a concern that this stuff is leaking from somewhere…but 37 minute half-life particles will rapidly decay, right? Yeah, it will be a very energetic…but only for a short while, right? Correct me if I’m wrong here, but doesn’t 37 minute half-life mean that after 37 minutes there are half the radioactive nuclei present? And after 37 more minutes half of that? And so on? GOD, I can’t believe I’m wasting TIME on you morons. 37 minutes sounds like a nice, short number, but THAT’S A HALF-LIFE. What are you, in kindergarten? After 37 minutes THERE WILL STILL BE HALF. But let’s all keep talking about words on the screen and bananas, because that’s FAR more dangerous. I’m fucking brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/466 "2011-03-31T14:47:36Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > GOD, I can’t believe I’m wasting TIME on you morons. > > 37 minutes sounds like a nice, short number, but THAT’S A HALF-LIFE. What are you, in kindergarten? After 37 minutes THERE WILL STILL BE HALF. > > But let’s all keep talking about words on the screen and bananas, because that’s FAR more dangerous. I’m fucking brilliant. That was very good! Can you do Elvis as well? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/467 "2011-03-31T14:47:37Z")
The concern over isotopes with short half lives is not due to their health effects. It is that you shouldn’t be seeing short lived isotopes from a shut down reactor. It means there is a nuclear reaction still going on. Somewhere. They don’t know where. This is bad news, because you don’t want nuclear reactions to be going on right now. We want all the fuel rods, be they in a reactor or in a cooling pond, we want them all nice and contained inside zirconium, with boron in between them. This is how you keep them from doing that reaction thing. A nuclear reaction doesn’t just created radioactivity, it also creates more heat. Heat is bad at this point in time. Heat can causes metal to melt, things to end up somewhere they should not be. It’s all very bad. Especially since nobody can either look at it, or get a camera in to see what is going on. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/468 "2011-03-31T14:51:38Z")
They can get heat measurements, though…do you have any indications that the heat in any of the reactors is rising? According to what I read yesterday on the IAEA website the heat was stable and they were circulating fresh water into the reactors. And aren’t them mixing boron with the water they are pumping in? -XT ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/469 "2011-03-31T14:55:32Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > The concern over isotopes with short half lives is not due to their health effects. It is that you shouldn’t be seeing short lived isotopes from a shut down reactor. It means there is a nuclear reaction still going on. Somewhere. That simply isn’t true. It’s possible that a nuclear fission reaction could be producing these, but the existence of these products it is not prima facie evidence that one is still taking place. As has been pointed out to you previously, the random fission products that were already produced by the reactor undergo their own decay, to produce these radioactive byproducts. Yes, it’s nuclear waste leaking out which is not good at all. But it is a different and less serious problem than the one that you are shrieking about. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/470 "2011-03-31T15:07:18Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Cause we all know, that unlike radioactive shit from a nuclear reactor, words can spread around the world and cause all kinds of damage to people, property and livestock. If your words convince anyone that you’re even 1% right with your retarded misconceptions about nuclear power, you’ll have done more aggregate damage than the radioactive material release from the plants in Japan. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/471 "2011-03-31T16:21:24Z")
> [@Raygun99](#): > > That simply isn’t true. It’s possible that a nuclear fission reaction could be producing these, but the existence of these products it is not prima facie evidence that one is still taking place. I included the link to the paper [http://lewis.armscontrolwonk.com/files/2011/03/Cause\_of\_the\_high\_Cl38\_Radioactivity.pdf](http://lewis.armscontrolwonk.com/files/2011/03/Cause_of_the_high_Cl38_Radioactivity.pdf) which discusses the issues and uncertainty involved. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/472 "2011-03-31T17:25:45Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > How can you guys still not think this guy is trolling? I am honestly bewildered at this point. Yeah, i’m done with this thread. The OP is clearly some sort of Dadaist. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/473 "2011-03-31T18:43:31Z")
> [@](#): > > “The indications we have, from the reactor to radiation readings and the materials they are seeing, suggest that the core has melted through the bottom of the pressure vessel in unit two, and at least some of it is down on the floor of the drywell.” > This morning, Lahey elaborated on his analysis for [_IEEE Spectrum_](http://spectrum.ieee.org/), which he said had been accurately reported by _The Guardian_, but misinterpreted by some. (A careless read of the [article](http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/29/japan-lost-race-save-nuclear-reactor) suggests a new meltdown at the plant, rather an analysis of what probably occurred early on in the crisis.) > > Lahey says his analysis was based on the data sources seen by him and colleagues around the world, but that the information has been inconsistent and changes hourly. “It’s really hard to read the tea leaves,” Lahey says. “They keep blowing around… I may be wrong. I _hope_ I’m wrong.” > **[Nuclear Engineer Sees Evidence That Fuel Melted Through Reactor Pressure Vessel](https://spectrum.ieee.org/nuclear-engineer-says-theres-evidence-fuel-melted-through-reactor-pressure-vessel)** > > Japanese experts disagree We all hope you are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![matt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@matt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/474 "2011-04-01T02:18:29Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > I sort of envy the delusional, they no doubt suffer much less stress about the world. One of the benefits of being a true believer. Sadly, I can’t turn off my skeptical mind. Curses. > > One issue that is just beyond belief, is the seeming lack of neutron detectors. > > This is key information, you really want to know about possible chain reactions going on. Three weeks after the problem started, you really might want to check for a possible problem. So that was the “extremely bad news” you alluded to 12 hours before this post? An unproven _speculation_ about a lack of neutron detectors? Or maybe it was the radiation in the ocean. What a surprise after waterbombing open fuel pools from helicopters and spraying tons of water onto them from truck-mounted firehoses too. Not great, but pop quiz: How many half-lives does it take to make the iodine 131 level 4096 times smaller? How about 16.7 million times smaller? With a half-life of 8 days, what are the corresponding time periods? > [@](#): > > Radioactive chlorine found March 25 in the No. 1 turbine building suggests chain reactions continued after the reactor shut down, physicist Ferenc Dalnoki-Veress of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies in Monterey, California, wrote in a March 28 paper. Radioactive chlorine has a half-life of 37 minutes, according to the report. Nice cite, although a slightly biased source. Did you read it? > [@FXMastermind](#): > > Because they might be the ones in charge of the reactors right now. Insane people, who are refusing to use neutron detectors, or to publish real data, or let third parties analyze the radioactivity. Right of the start of the Veress paper is the statement that TEPCO reported the observation of a “neutron beam” over “three days from March 13th”, presumably with those non-existent neutron detectors they are refusing to use. The paper concludes that transient criticalities have been occurring. Maybe that’s right, but I have a couple of problems with it: 1. If the transients occurred 13th-17th as reported by the evil information-concealing TEPCO, any chlorine 38 produced back then should ALSO have decayed to very low levels by now and so wouldn’t be detected 2. If transient criticalities were still occurring or had occurred more recently, they should have been detected by the non-existent neutron detectors TEPCO used before. 3. Veress seems to believe that fuel at a temperature of over 3120K can be in contact with liquid seawater in the reactor containments, which is physical nonsense at the pressures this would result in (page 8 of the paper.) This doesn’t affect the rest of his analysis, which I haven’t checked into yet, but it does make me raise an eyebrow. The reports of chlorine 38 are interesting and I’ll definitely be watching that space, but so far I’m reserving judgement. > [@](#): > > The indications we have, from the reactor to radiation readings and the materials they are seeing, suggest that the core has melted through the bottom of the pressure vessel in unit two, and at least some of it is down on the floor of the drywell **Lahey** doesn’t actually give any reasons _why_ he suspects this has taken place in reactor 2. The latest temperature and pressure data I can find is given here: [Michele Kearney's Nuclear Wire: FEPC Update to Information Sheet Regarding the Tohoku Earthquake](http://michelekearneynuclearwire.blogspot.com/2011/03/fepc-update-to-information-sheet_31.html) Note that the water level in the reactor core is listed as 1.5m below the top of the fuel rods. Don’t see how this can be if the pressure vessel has a hole in the bottom. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/475 "2011-04-01T02:42:20Z")
I don’t understand MOST of this shit, I just rant about it. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/476 "2011-04-01T02:51:20Z")
Like this complete shit fest here: > [@](#): > > The EPA is preparing to dramatically increase permissible radioactive releases in drinking water, food and soil after “radiological incidents,” according to Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility. > > What is termed a guidance that EPA is considering - as opposed to a regulation - does not require public airing before it’s decided upon. > EPA officials contacted today in the Atlanta and D.C. offices had no response on the issue as of 6 p.m. > The radiation guides called Protective Action Guides or PAGs are protocols for responding to radiological events ranging from nuclear power-plant accidents to dirty bombs. > Drinking water, for example, would have a huge increase in allowable public exposure to radioactivity, the group says, that would include: > A nearly 1000-fold increase in strontium-90 > A 3000 to 100,000-fold hike for iodine-131 > An almost 25,000 rise for nickel-63 [http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110316/NEWS08/110316027/1969/NEWS/Group-warns-EPA-ready-increase-radioactive-release-guidelines-?odyssey=nav|head](http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110316/NEWS08/110316027/1969/NEWS/Group-warns-EPA-ready-increase-radioactive-release-guidelines-?odyssey=nav%7Chead) Now of course the ‘standards’ may be ‘too low’, and raising them is just prudent and good, because really, why would anyone care if they are drinking and eating radioactive shit from a nuclear reactor half way around the world? And they raised them last time too, when Chernobyl was dumping pollution all over the fucking place, but, what else could they do? You can’t just have people thinking that they are being poisoned by fall out. They might get angry. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/477 "2011-04-01T02:54:39Z")
Oh fuck. > [@](#): > > ``` > **Radioactive Iodine-131 in rainwater sample near San Francisco was 18,100% above federal drinking water standard** > > ``` > > March 31st, 2011 at 06:33 PM > [UCB Rain Water Sampling Results](http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/RainWaterSampling), University of California, Berkeley, Department of Nuclear Engineering: > _Iodine-131 level in rainwater sample taken on the roof of Etcheverry Hall on UC Berkeley campus, March 23, 2011 from 9:06-18:00 PDT_ > 20.1 Becquerel per liter (Bq/L) = 543 Picocuries per liter (pCi/L) > **[Xoilac TV | Xôi Lạc TTBD Hôm Nay - Trực Tiếp Bóng đá 90Phut HD](https://www.recyclodrome.org)** > > Xoilac TV cung cấp link xem bóng đá trực tuyến, trực tiếp bóng đá Xôi Lạc TV hôm nay giải Ngoại Hạng Anh, Euro, Bundesliga, VĐQG Tây Ban Nha,... Oh fucking hell, you see that? Now that is fear mongering. Taking readings, and publishing the results, and pointing out that radioactive shit is the rain. And now the water. The only way to stop that shit is to make the safe level \*\*18,100% higher. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/478 "2011-04-01T02:58:40Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > I don’t understand MOST of this shit, I just rant about it. Why don’t you let the adults who DO understand it, and who are telling you that you’re both wrong and irritating, talk about it then? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/479 "2011-04-01T03:17:27Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Oh fuck. > > [Xoilac TV | Xôi Lạc TTBD Hôm Nay - Trực Tiếp Bóng đá 90Phut HD](http://enenews.com/radioactive-iodine-131-in-rainwater-sample-near-san-francisco-is-18100-above-federal-drinking-water-standard) > > Oh fucking hell, you see that? Now that is fear mongering. Taking readings, and publishing the results, and pointing out that radioactive shit is the rain. And now the water. > > The only way to stop that shit is to make the safe level \*\*18,100% higher. > \*\* Looking at the UCB Rain Water Sampling Results: > [@](#): > > For example, in the rain water we collected in 18 hours between March 17 and March 18 we observe an activity of the isotope of I-131 (Iodine-131) of 4.26 Bq/l.\*\* At this level, you would need to drink 632 liters of this rain water to obtain the same radiation effects you obtain on a round-trip flight between San Francisco and Washington D.C. Therefore, the increase in radiation levels in the rain water due to the events in Japan remain extremely small.\*\* > > We will continue to monitor radiation levels in air and water in the foreseeable future and will provide the measured radiation levels here. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/480 "2011-04-01T03:19:52Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Why don’t you let the adults … talk about it then? Nobody is stopping you from saying anything. Of course you are trolling, but it was good enough to get a response. I usually just ignore obvious trolls, it bores them so bad they often leave in a huff. But hey, the shit I just saw on TV, this shit is just starting to get rant worthy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077.md?page=25)