# Rantings about stupid nuclear reporting, and I want to bitchslap somebody, also other crap **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077 "2011-03-26T19:11:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/841 "2011-07-15T13:59:56Z")
Yeah, like Japan. They got no wind or wave action there. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/842 "2011-07-15T16:35:46Z")
May I encourage you one more time to stop arguing with your own straw men? No one has said that Oyster system is not likely to work in Japan. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/843 "2011-07-15T16:39:58Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Yeah, like Japan. They got no wind or wave action there. Japan has a coastline of 29,751km, a landmass of 374,744km2, and a population of 125,000,000 Scotland has a coastline of 11,800 km, a landmass of 78,772 km2, and a population of 5,000,000. See the slight difference? 25 times the population, 5 times the landmass, three the coastline. Hence why it’s a lot easier for Scotland to meet its energy requirements through wind and tidal. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/844 "2011-07-15T16:49:06Z")
Ok, Gary just did. But he has a point. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/845 "2011-07-15T17:14:36Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > Ok, Gary just did. But he has a point. In a probably vain attempt to prevent FX usual misrepresentation, let me state my point explicitly. Wind and tidal are potentially huge sources of energy, and should be developed fully, along with solar. However it is highly uncertain if they can provide the energy required for all countries (China and India being obvious examples) so other sources should also be investigated, for example [Thorium reactors](http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/01/china_thorium_bet/). ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/846 "2011-07-18T02:31:51Z")
**Coal Ash Is More Radioactive than Nuclear Waste** ``` By burning away all the pesky carbon and other impurities, coal power plants produce heaps of radiation ``` > **[Coal Ash Is More Radioactive Than Nuclear Waste](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/)** > > By burning away all the pesky carbon and other impurities, coal power plants produce heaps of radiation ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/847 "2011-07-18T03:49:30Z")
[HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/17/radiation-beef-japan_n_901006.html) Here have a nice radioactive burger. Who would think a farmer would feed tainted straw to his cows and then sell the meat.? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/848 "2011-07-18T03:53:47Z")
Nuclear cheerleaders would eat radioactive beef. They should sell it to them. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/849 "2011-07-18T13:11:43Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > [HuffPost - Breaking News, Politics, Entertainment & Opinion](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/17/radiation-beef-japan_n_901006.html) Here have a nice radioactive burger. Who would think a farmer would feed tainted straw to his cows and then sell the meat.? Glad to see they found a use for all of **FXMastermind** ’s straw men. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/850 "2011-07-18T15:40:41Z")
> [@](#): > > Senior Vice Health Minister Kohei Otsuka said Sunday that the government may consider expanding the expected cattle restriction beyond Fukushima. > > “We may need to increase our response by checking the distribution of contaminated straw,” he said on a national television talk show. > > His comments came a day after Fukushima’s government said 84 head of cattle shipped from five farms had been fed contaminated straw. > > It also released results of tests conducted on remaining straw, which revealed cesium levels as high as **500,000 becquerels per kilogram** at one farm in Koriyama City. That translates to roughly 378 times the legal limit. > > The new revelation brings the number of exposed cows so far to 143, according to Kyodo News agency calculations. It must be hard being a nuclear denier at times like these. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/851 "2011-07-30T18:15:02Z")
[３号機取水口付近で濃度上昇 | 東京電力 福島第一原発事故 関連ニュース | NHK 40年後の未来へ 福島第一原発の今](http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/genpatsu-fukushima/20110730/index.html) the number of employees above 250 mSv = 6 200 to 250 mSv = 2 100 to 200 mSv = 100 Among the 3410 people who had worked for one month or longer at Fukushima Daiichi as of the end of May and who must undergo a medical exam every month like checking their white blood cells or their skin, 1339 or 39% have not undergone the exam. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/852 "2011-07-30T21:52:26Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > [http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/genpatsu-fukushima/20110730/index.html](http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/genpatsu-fukushima/20110730/index.html) the number of employees above 250 mSv = 6 > 200 to 250 mSv = 2 > 100 to 200 mSv = 100 > > Among the 3410 people who had worked for one month or longer at Fukushima Daiichi as of the end of May and who must undergo a medical exam every month like checking their white blood cells or their skin, 1339 or 39% have not undergone the exam. I understand the reluctance. to find out you have radioactive poisoning which will kill you or put your health in jeopardy is pretty terrifying. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/853 "2011-07-31T03:27:46Z")
What’s the death toll at now for radiation poisoning? Has it climbed to 6000x0? 10,000x0? A million times zero? Thanks for another link in Japanese…it sure proves your point… -XT ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/854 "2011-07-31T04:51:04Z")
Try this link > **[作業員４０％ 健康診断未受診 | 40年後の未来へ 福島第一原発の今 〈原発事故 海水リアルタイムモニター〉](http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/genpatsu-fukushima/20110730/1010_kenko.html)** > > 原発事故 海水リアルタイムモニターと東京電力 福島第一原発事故 関連ニュース The link was changed somehow. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/855 "2011-07-31T04:52:04Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > I understand the reluctance. to find out you have radioactive poisoning which will kill you or put your health in jeopardy is pretty terrifying. It isn’t clear at all why they were not tested. They could have been tested and the results not declared for all anyone knows. The level of deception by Japanese officials and Tepco is over 9000 ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/856 "2011-07-31T04:58:07Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > What’s the death toll at now for radiation poisoning? Has it climbed to 6000x0? 10,000x0? A million times zero? > > Thanks for another link in Japanese…it sure proves your point… > > -XT If there are no deaths at least Godzilla, Mothra, or Superheroes. All that EVIL radiation cannot go to waste if it ain’t killin’ nobody. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/857 "2011-07-31T05:06:12Z")
[http://www.asianweek.com/2011/07/20/fukushima-beef-now-kobe-beef-next/](http://www.asianweek.com/2011/07/20/fukushima-beef-now-kobe-beef-next/) ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/858 "2011-07-31T05:24:45Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > [http://www.asianweek.com/2011/07/20/fukushima-beef-now-kobe-beef-next/](http://www.asianweek.com/2011/07/20/fukushima-beef-now-kobe-beef-next/) So aside from two distances, no numbers? What concentration? How many rad/curie/sieverts? Lethal? Harmful? Risky? Or simply an increase of the base number with no real health significance. Japan’s morgues must be brimming with corpses. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/859 "2011-07-31T05:54:11Z")
So… _how_ many deaths have been attributed to radiation exposure, at this late date? Just curious. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2011, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/860 "2011-07-31T13:22:48Z")
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