# Rantings about stupid nuclear reporting, and I want to bitchslap somebody, also other crap **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077 "2011-03-26T19:11:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1181 "2011-08-19T12:10:52Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Dude, seriously…it was just another way to ridicule you. Oh gosh mister, I guess I’m just sort of slow. I thought he was serious. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1182 "2011-08-19T12:41:57Z")
I’m alleging that you are a troll who makes inflammatory statements and will not back them up. You can easily prove me wrong by providing the cite. But I’m not wrong. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1183 "2011-08-19T13:07:44Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > With the caveat of ‘…compared to just about everything else.’ Now see, that’s the sort of sheer nonsense that makes me think YOU are trollin. I know you must be serious, but it’s hard to imagine this is so. It’s loltastic ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1184 "2011-08-19T13:09:31Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > You can easily prove me wrong by providing the cite. But I’m not wrong. Oh jeez, not the ‘cite’ thing again. “Cite” is a verb. It is a fucking VERB not a noun. Learn to speak correctly and quit falling prey to the internet lingo them kids use. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1185 "2011-08-19T13:38:58Z")
[Cite is a noun as well as a verb.](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cite) You can get back to citing articles in Japanese now if you’d like. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1186 "2011-08-19T13:43:01Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Oh jeez, not the ‘cite’ thing again. “Cite” is a verb. It is a fucking VERB not a noun. Learn to speak correctly and quit falling prey to the internet lingo them kids use. cite verb /sīt/  cited, past participle; cited, past tense; cites, 3rd person singular present; citing, present participle noun /sīt/  cites, plural A citation So, and this will come as a surprise to many people following this thread, you appear to be misinformed on that. But, if it will make you happier: Please produce a reliable citation for the number of people who died as a result of radiation in the recent events in Japan. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1187 "2011-08-19T13:45:12Z")
One thing I would like to say. Truly, the way this thread has brought together people of different race, creed, nationality, faith and politics, all to share one common sentiment…well, it’s a beautiful thing. Even if that single sentiment is “FXMastermind, you’re full of shit” ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1188 "2011-08-19T13:45:31Z")
Citer is a noun. But when used as “to cite, to quote” it is a verb. [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/citar](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/citar) But by all means, lets focus on this rather than a nuclear disaster. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1189 "2011-08-19T13:46:50Z")
Haha Didn’t realize the idiots would have posted four times before I responded. Excellent. Meanwhile, the readings on radioiodine are troubling. > **[110818e6.pdf](https://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu11_e/images/110818e6.pdf)** > > 23.40 KB By now there should be almost no radioiodine left. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1190 "2011-08-19T13:50:07Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Here’s the actual deal, FXM. Literally everyone in the thread understands the issues better than you. That still just kills. Not only do you not understand many things, you don’t even know they are happening. This is because you simply don’t follow a real science based thread on the ongoing disaster. Every day. If you were, you might have a clue. You have no idea what this means [http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/genpatsu-fukushima/20110819/0820\_shinosenmap.html](http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/genpatsu-fukushima/20110819/0820_shinosenmap.html) much less where to view the Google map, or the videos. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1191 "2011-08-19T14:05:40Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Nuclear scientists are actually busy at work right now analyzing the isotopes found in the water. It appears to be very bad news. The evidence is pointing hard to at least one nuclear reaction going on somewhere. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > The isotopes found in the water were cobalt-76, technetium-99, silver-108, iodine-131, iodine-134, four isotopes of cesium, barium-140 and lanthanum-140. All have half-lives measured in hours or days, with the exception of cesium-137. > > [Radioactive Water Found In Two Reactor Buildings | IBTimes](http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/127643/20110328/radioactive-water-found-in-fukushima-nuclear-plant-turbine-buildings.htm) > [@Zeriel](#): > > As has been said before, and I quote the article: “Plutonium can be a serious health hazard if inhaled or ingested, but external exposure poses little health risk, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.” How much plutonium, and in what forms, MATTERS. > > In other words, the kind of radioactive materials that will burn themselves out rapidly while dissipating into the ocean. In other words, precious little threat to anyone or anything… Going back to this point, which of course nobody understood at the time, finding short lived radioisotopes weeks or months after the reactors are no longer reacting is bad news. > [@](#): > > The isotopes found in the water were cobalt-76, technetium-99, silver-108, iodine-131, iodine-134, four isotopes of cesium, barium-140 and lanthanum-140. **All have half-lives measured in hours or days** , with the exception of cesium-137. > > On March 25, NISA released the isotopes found in Unit 1. In that case the radiation dosage was in the 60 millisieverts per hour range. The isotopes in that case were chlorine-38, arsenic-74, yttrium-91, iodine-131, cesium and lanthanum. > > In both cases many of the isotopes are products of nuclear reactions, and raise concerns that the contamination came from the reactor core or the spent fuel pools. NISA said that it is possible the water came in contact with the fuel rods in the reactors but it isn’t clear how that would happen. > **[Radioactive Water Found In Two Reactor Buildings](https://www.ibtimes.com/radioactive-water-found-two-reactor-buildings-277479)** > > Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said it detected several kinds of radioactive material in the water on the floor of reactor buildings at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. New findings of short lived isotopes is making it look like the early results were spot on, and in at least two locations there is an ongoing nuclear reaction at Fukushima. This also fits with the neutron readings and blue flashes measured from reactor 3 ---
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1192 "2011-08-19T16:00:01Z")
FXMastermind, a verbal Juggernaut. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1193 "2011-08-19T16:05:48Z")
Learn to cope ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1194 "2011-08-19T16:12:17Z")
I love how FX quotes a post that was made a short while after the incident, and uses that to somehow assert that I have the same opinion on a different phenomenon multiple months later. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1195 "2011-08-19T18:52:00Z")
> [@Hbns](#): > > FXMastermind, a verbal Juggernaut. :dubious: He strikes me as more of a verbal Juggalo. fucking radiation, how does it work ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1196 "2011-08-19T22:14:54Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > I love how FX … To know me is to love me. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1197 "2011-08-19T22:32:12Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > To know me is to love me. I don’t know you. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1198 "2011-08-19T22:35:48Z")
Your loss. Your loss. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1199 "2011-08-20T01:22:56Z")
Please provide a reliable cite of the number of people killed by radiation in the recent events in Japan. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1200 "2011-08-20T01:36:23Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Please provide a reliable cite of the number of people killed by radiation in the recent events in Japan. > > Regards, > Shodan I would guess that you know most people subjected to excessive radiation die in the future due to cellular mangling. They get cancer later in life. In almost all cases it takes some time. In this event, there are some badly over radiated people. They are in serious jeopardy. If you are suggesting that being subjected to radiation only matters if you die face down in a fleshy blob, you don’t understand how radiation affects the body, or you are being a jerk. [Japanese Nuclear Plant Workers Say Radiation Death Is Inevitable - Gothamist](http://gothamist.com/2011/04/01/japanese_nuclear_plant_workers_resi.php) Ask these guys. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077.md?page=59) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077.md?page=61)