# Rantings about stupid nuclear reporting, and I want to bitchslap somebody, also other crap **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077 "2011-03-26T19:11:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 69
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2011, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1361 "2011-09-15T23:46:48Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > Snake? Wait for it… ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1362 "2011-09-16T00:27:54Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Yes, it’s serious and will require some emergency work to limit the effect on the workers and the larger population, but when all the casualties and economic/environmental impact of the March 11th earthquake are taken into account, the reactors are going to be relatively small potatoes. Well, with the advantage of time and more data, we know now that while the tsunami and quake were deadly, as far as economic loss, and loss of habitat, the nuclear disaster is not only far worse, it’s going to last for decades. Or longer. The real danger now is another earthquake/tsunami, both of which would seriously fuck the efforts up to contain the three reactors. Until they can shore up building four, stop the radiation leaks in all three reactors, repair the damaged fuel ponds, and do something (nobody knows what yet) with the melted cores, it’s a huge time bomb. If any of the spent fuel goes up in flames, we now know the radiation damage will make a single core meltdown look like a walk in the park. Until they get the new containment structures done, it’s all touch and go. Even then, it’s a long long road until anyone can rest easy. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1363 "2011-09-16T00:58:40Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Readings from Reactor One show damage and loss of water long before the tsunami. But I understand why the nuclears want to deny reality. They feel threatened that if an earthquake damaged a reactor, well, it might make them seem dangerous. > > Hahahahaha > Because a tsunami doesn’t count or something Look, I work in the industry. You’re full of shit and embarrassing yourself. Go the fuck away. Now. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1364 "2011-09-16T01:12:29Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Look, I work in the industry. You’re full of shit and embarrassing yourself. Good heavens, man, why did you even bother? He’s impervious. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1365 "2011-09-16T01:13:18Z")
How scientific your argument. You have won! ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1366 "2011-09-16T01:15:45Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > [http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110729a3.html](http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110729a3.html) > > My my, the secrets that are now coming out. So one damaged fuel rod, in a working undamaged nuclear plant, has been quietly secretly a problem for 17 years now. Almost sounds like a damaged fuel rod is a real problem. > > So what does a pool with 40 years of fuel rods mean? When they are all damaged? In a building blown to shit? With a damaged reactor with a full meltdown of the core still steaming away? > > Oh my. > > Timeline for solving that problem? > > Never. Of course now we have an expert who “works in the industry”. So tell us, what is the solution? What do you do with a damaged fuel rod? Or a damaged pool full of them? Please, we would all love to hear the answer. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1367 "2011-09-16T01:16:20Z")
I do think we could use more of his ilk. Can you imagine how useful they could be for shielding? Denser than Tungsten and so much cheaper! ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1368 "2011-09-16T01:40:06Z")
Sadly the density is only metaphorical. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1369 "2011-09-16T03:25:03Z")
Triceratops. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1370 "2011-09-16T07:23:26Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > What do you do with a damaged fuel rod? Or a damaged pool full of them? Tell the nearest Tea Partier that they can be a wizard if they can retrieve the Glowing Rod of Power from the pool, of course. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1371 "2011-09-16T13:10:54Z")
New report from Tepco says they possibly could have prevented the melt through and explosion in reactor two if reactor three hadn’t blown up and fucked up their efforts to get water into two. The huge explosion damaged the fire trucks they were trying to use to pump water. Also, they had to abandon the plant due to radiation after three blew up. Meanwhile, reactor building one is getting ready to vanish from view as they complete the new structure around it. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1372 "2011-09-16T14:59:54Z")
Fukushima Dai-Ni, the other nuclear plant damaged by the quake and tsunami is never going to start up again. They are still trying to vent pressure and prevent hydrogen explosions there. It is feared three of the reactors are damaged. They can’t know because nobody can enter the buildings still. While the plant has received almost no attention in the western media, of course, the situation there is still very bad. ---
**Author:** ![Billy-o](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Billy-o](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billy-o)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1373 "2011-09-16T15:00:49Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > What do you do with a damaged fuel rod? Or a damaged pool full of them? > > Please, we would all love to hear the answer. [gets out concertina and plays sea shanty] Oh, what do you do with a damaged fuel rod, What do you do with a damaged fuel rod, What do you do with a damaged fuel rod Ear-lay in the morning? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1374 "2011-09-16T15:03:19Z")
Meanwhile both cesium-134 and cesium-137 have increased in the latest San Francisco Bay Area milk samples. Nuclear ratshit crazies of course will tell you it doesn’t matter. But then, they are insane of course. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1375 "2011-09-20T01:07:08Z")
Big new report on Fukushima out > **[FukuAccSummary110819Final.pdf](https://www.shippai.org/images/html/news559/FukuAccSummary110819Final.pdf)** > > 1793.45 KB > [@](#): > > At 08:30 of March 12th, **Tellurium-132 and its daughter Iodine-132 were observed 7km away from Fukushima reactor** s. Vaporizing temperature of Te is about 988deg.-C, and this was an evidence that the temperature of fuel pellets reached over 1,000deg.-C. > > **The reason why the Government did not immediately open this information is not clear**. If this news was open on March 12th, the following remedies might have been better, or at least we could have recognized the status of the reactors correctly. The whole thing is worth a read, for anyone interested in the disaster. > [@](#): > > March 13, 09:00: PCV pressure reached 0.6MPa. Since the > “Rupture disk” for PCV venting was designed to break at > 0.55Mpa, PCV venting became possible at this time. > > 13:17: High radiation level (300mSv/h) was measured on the > 1st floor of the reactor building. **This suggests that there was a > severe fuel failure**. No kidding? I wonder what happened to all that radioactivity when the building blew the fuck up? Oh right. It blew all to hell. Fortune had it the wind was out to sea that day. ---
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1376 "2011-09-24T15:57:06Z")
Reuters reports that preharvested rice, in Nihonmatsu city 35 miles west of the Fukushima Daiichi, has radioactive cesium of 500 becquerels per kg. This exceeds the 200 becquerels per kg threshold which prompts more thorough testing of the rice in the area. If the levels exceeds 500 becquerels per kg then rice shipments from this area will be halted. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1377 "2011-09-25T01:32:06Z")
> **[工程表見直し 汚染の気体浄化 | 40年後の未来へ 福島第一原発の今 〈原発事故 海水リアルタイムモニター〉](http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/genpatsu-fukushima/20110920/index.html)** > > 原発事故 海水リアルタイムモニターと東京電力 福島第一原発事故 関連ニュース Tepco estimates the radiation released during the first half of September to be 200,000,000 Bq/hour which is a lot less than the 800,000,000,000,000 Bq/hour that was happening at the start of the disaster. Somehow this seems like good news. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1378 "2011-09-25T01:33:48Z")
Deconstructing the zero-risk mindset: The lessons and future responsibilities for a post-Fukushima nuclear Japan Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists [http://bos.sagepub.com/content/67/5/9.full.pdf+html](http://bos.sagepub.com/content/67/5/9.full.pdf+html) ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1379 "2011-09-25T05:29:59Z")
OMG! So many zeros! The world is doomed! I’m screaming in terror! Or, not. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1380 "2011-09-25T07:20:00Z")
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