# Rantings about stupid nuclear reporting, and I want to bitchslap somebody, also other crap **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 26, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077 "2011-03-26T19:11:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 70
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1381 "2011-09-25T10:01:50Z")
Yeah, quit bumping the topic. Nobody wants to even think about Fukushima, much less hear scientific reports and such. A problem ignored is a problem solved. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1382 "2011-09-26T05:33:01Z")
And yet more nonsense and lies from the Media, or perhaps from Tepco/Japan, who the fuck can tell? (Article says Trade and Industry Minister Edano) **Fukushima ‘Cold Shutdown’ Could Come This Year** [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904194604576581961887970624.html](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904194604576581961887970624.html) (Wall Street Journal) > [@](#): > > Japan expects to bring the reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant under control sooner than previously foreseen, government officials said Tuesday, although new problems over the radioactive water in the unit basements will complicate longer-term clean-up efforts. OK, the obvious thing is that currently the reactors are out of control. But what the fuck do they mean by “under control”? > [@](#): > > Emissions of radioactive materials from the plant have been reduced to a maximum of 1/4,000,000th of the peak, as the cooling of the reactors reduces the amount of tainted steam escaping, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said in its monthly review of its nine-month plant-stabilization plan. OK now that is just pure horseshit. There are no “reactors” in the sense of a working reactor, or anything resembling a reactor anymore. I mean, give it up already. Nobody with a clue thinks it is a matter of dealing with “a reactor” at this point. Also, why not just say the truth for once? How much radioactive material is actually coming out of the ruins? Why not just fucking say that? Oh right, the truth is the last thing you want to tell anyone. > [@](#): > > “By reducing emissions of radioactive materials, we hope to make it possible for evacuees to return to their homes as early as possible,” said Yasuhiro Sonoda, a member of parliament responsible for managing the Fukushima crisis. Oh for fucks sake. You still want to sell that story? Please. And now, for the big lie. > [@](#): > > Trade and industry minister Yukio Edano said there is “a reasonable chance” of **bringing the damaged reactors to what’s called a cold shutdown** by the end of the year, a month ahead of the schedule under the master “roadmap.” Environment Minister Goshi Hosono had made a similar forecast Monday at the annual general meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency. No, in no possible stretch of the words can you call it “cold shutdown”. That’s what you call a reactor that is intact after you have it cooled down to the point where it’s not boiling water. Which means you have a healthy circulation of water so the core is cooled faster than it can boil water. In an intact working reactor this is possible. But you don’t get to say a melted pile of nuclear fuel somewhere under a ruined reactor is in “cold shutdown”. But, at least they are saying what is fucking obvious for the last 6 months. That the steaming pile of shit that used to be three reactors is still boiling away, polluting the planet with radioactive material, and the whole thing is totally out of fucking control. Because that is what they are really saying. That three reactors are out of control, and they are boiling away somewhere in a flooded building, and releasing radiation into the air and ground and ocean. All the time. But don’t use the term “cold shutdown” to blow smoke up our ass. As the article says, “Cold shutdown refers to a stable condition with the core temperature below 100 degrees Celsius, the boiling point of water.” There is no fucking “core” left. That train left the station by March 13th What you got is three ruined reactors, with melted fuel somewhere, and a radioactive shit hole, with four ruined buildings, all of which are still full of steaming spent fuel ponds brimming with dangerous nuclear material, none of which anyone can move, much less make safe any time soon. Yeah, it’s a fucking disaster. Pretending it didn’t happen will not solve the problem. No matter what lies the media tries to sell. Like I said in the OP, the problem is not fear. The problem is not the threat to nuclear power. The problem is four ruined buildings, three fucked reactors, and a shit ton of spent fuel rods, all of which are actually dangerous. Oh yeah, and all that radioactivity spread all over creation. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1383 "2011-09-26T06:13:04Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > A problem ignored is a problem solved. Remind us again what your blog here has accomplished in Fukushima. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1384 "2011-09-26T14:45:01Z")
I would, but it would annoy the fuck out of a few people, and I don’t want to cause them any stress. On the other hand, the irony of somebody bumping the “bumping limit” thread, after 25 days, to try and make some sort of point, now that was funny. > [@Bumping limit?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bumping-limit/594787/18): > > Have we approached the limit yet? Even with out knowing for sure if it was occasioned by my latest rant, or if somebody just thought it would be funny, it was internet loltastic. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1385 "2011-09-29T16:04:21Z")
I know, more boring nonsense about the record amount of radiation that went into the ocean. (which we all know is no big deal because it gets diluted) Except it hasn’t. And the levels show it is still leaking into the ocean in tremendous amounts. Holy fuck, who would have guessed? [http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/fukushimas-contamination-produces-some-surprises-at-sea/](http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/fukushimas-contamination-produces-some-surprises-at-sea/) [http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/09/radiation-leaked-into-sea-from-fukushima-plant-higher-than-estimated/](http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/09/radiation-leaked-into-sea-from-fukushima-plant-higher-than-estimated/) Too boring? I know, who gives a fuck about the Pacific Ocean anyhows? Meanwhile, it turns out the Lake Ana reactors didn’t shut down due to loss of external power after all. They went into auto shutdown because of a problem with the reactors, due to the earthquake. Which as it turns out, did exceed the design limits of the reactors. [http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2011/092011/09292011/655109](http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2011/092011/09292011/655109) Looks like it may be a very long time before they fire them back up. Because lets face the facts, it’s pretty fucking dangerous to start up a nuclear reactor if something is wrong with it. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2011, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1386 "2011-10-05T10:55:25Z")
**TEPCO finds own nuclear accident manual useless** TOKYO (Kyodo) – Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s in-house report showed Sunday the utility has found its own emergency manual was useless for handling the crisis at the Fukushima No. 1 Nuclear Power Plant and also repudiated the widely-held belief that a hydrogen explosion might have occurred at its No. 2 reactor. The report indicated the utility prepared the manual with a view to dealing with nuclear plant accidents including severe incidents on the assumption that emergency power generators, including diesel generators, would work properly to keep reactor cooling systems functioning. [http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20111002p2g00m0dm083000c.html](http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20111002p2g00m0dm083000c.html) I would rant about it, but I already did that rant on March 16th ---
**Author:** ![BusDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@BusDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BusDriver)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1387 "2011-10-10T20:45:42Z")
Any updates? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1388 "2011-10-10T22:43:46Z")
Plenty, but it’s mostly in Japanese. The live camera, as I type this, is showing them putting the roof on the building over building one. It’s pretty cool. > **[ライブカメラ - 廃炉プロジェクト｜廃炉作業の状況｜東京電力ホールディングス株式会社](https://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/index-j.html)** > > 東京電力HD「ライブカメラ」のページ。東京電力ホールディングス株式会社は、東京電力グループの持株会社です。福島第一原子力発電所事故の「責任」を果たし、エネルギー産業の新しい「競争」の時代を勝ち抜いていくために、大きな変革を実行してまいります。 ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1389 "2011-10-10T22:47:24Z")
[http://enenews.com/simply-put-it’s-over-tokyo-on-the-edge-show-host-astonished-by-latest-strontium-90-findings-video](http://enenews.com/simply-put-it%e2%80%99s-over-tokyo-on-the-edge-show-host-astonished-by-latest-strontium-90-findings-video) The strontium-90 stuff is pretty damning. But as we all know, anybody who reports any radioactive material is wrong. Or it’s not enough to hurt anyone. Or something. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1390 "2011-10-10T23:08:02Z")
Dear diary. Today I brushed my teeth all by myself for the fourth time in a row. I’ll be a big boy any day now. I also typed some incoherent, poorly-cited bullshit on this random forum that for some reason I keep confusing with you, diary. I don’t know why I do that, except that I AM kind of a cretin. Love, FXMastermind. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1391 "2011-10-10T23:35:16Z")
> [@BusDriver](#): > > Any updates? Are you fucking kidding me? You haven’t made a single post for 5 years, and you re-emerge in order to further troll this fucking trolling thread? Do us all a favor and go back into hiding, you miserable fucking douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2011, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1392 "2011-10-10T23:54:54Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Are you fucking kidding me? > > You haven’t made a single post for 5 years, and you re-emerge in order to further troll this fucking trolling thread? Seriously? _searches posts by **BusDriver** _ Yes, seriously. After only 16 posts, mostly concerned with airplanes or firearms. > [@](#): > > Do us all a favor and go back into hiding, you miserable fucking douchebag. Can’t argue with that. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1393 "2011-10-11T01:10:18Z")
True believers get so angry when they can’t live in denial. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1394 "2011-10-11T01:12:46Z")
I mean seriously, you get the feeling that the rabid ratshit crazy nuclear believer is actually angry, not because of the harm and fear and damage to Japan from a huge nuclear accident, not because of any possible cancer risk, or the economic loss, or the terrible danger still facing the entire world from the reactors, no, they are angry because somebody is still talking about it. Now that is fucked up. I mean, it’s just people typing shit on a shit hole sub forum. Yet you get the feeling people are really upset. Again, not at the disaster, but at any mention of it. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1395 "2011-10-11T05:29:20Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > I asked where the serious threads were, and was told to make one. > > Now you are saying there is one. Where is it? It wont matter. The pro-nukers will still insult and call names. There is no way to discuss the subject seriously. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1396 "2011-10-11T13:45:43Z")
Well, not here at least. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1397 "2011-10-12T15:26:05Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Well, not here at least. Yeah, seriously. This is such a fucking conservative board. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1398 "2011-10-12T18:52:18Z")
It’s really simple. Gonz and FX think we’re flamingly conservative and anti-fact, when the reality is that we’re anti-stupidity and anti-can’t-carry-on-an-argument. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1399 "2011-10-12T21:24:48Z")
Self pwnage at it’s best. ---
**Author:** ![BusDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@BusDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BusDriver)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2011, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1400 "2011-10-19T23:51:00Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Are you fucking kidding me? No, I find it to be interesting. i don’t see any other recent threads on the subject. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077.md?page=69) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077.md?page=71)