# Rantings about stupid nuclear reporting, and I want to bitchslap somebody, also other crap

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077 "2011-03-26T19:11:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1421 "2011-11-15T18:28:28Z")

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Well, I said it before, after the explosions, but it can be said once more. It’s a damn good thing the wind was blowing the worst of it out to sea. With the bulk of the radioactivity ending up in the ocean, Japan missed a very large radioactive bullet. Several of them actually.

If the wind had been blowing towards Tokyo when reactor three blew the fuck up, things would be so very much worse.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1422 "2011-11-18T16:38:49Z")

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Source of Iodine-131 in Europe has been identified

[http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/2011/prn201127.html](http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/2011/prn201127.html)

Fuck, I didn’t even know there was an amount that each producer was allowed to release each year.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1423 "2011-11-18T16:49:25Z")

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I know, I know, who the fuck cares?

Meanwhile, in France …

**France needs to upgrade all nuclear reactors**

[http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/17/us-france-nuclear-tests-idUSTRE7AG0HQ20111117](http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/17/us-france-nuclear-tests-idUSTRE7AG0HQ20111117)

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1424 "2011-11-19T15:42:43Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> You’re a moron who never answers any questions because you’re too stupid and instead you ignore and refuse to read anything and then come back with the same stupid shit that was refuted two pages ago like you don’t think people notice what a moron you are. You’re an embarrassment to the pro-nuke side.

When I first read that I wasn’t sure, but I have to agree now. He really was a complete waste of time.

> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> I’m starting to think there really isn’t a single science based topic about Fukushima here. It’s not that I can’t find it, there actually isn’t one.

The few possible candidates were all locked, and I was told by a Mod not to start a thread about Fukushima.

I almost bitched about it at the time, but then I realized, nobody gives a fuck.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1425 "2011-11-20T01:02:52Z")

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[http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20111117x2.html](http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20111117x2.html) The cesium mess needs to be dealt with. I understand many believe if corpses are not littering the streets, nothing is wrong. But time will show the real damage exceeds the American need of immediacy. Poisoning does not show fast enough to alarm some people.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1426 "2011-11-20T02:38:35Z")

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As the people of Rongelap found out the hard way. The really hard way.

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**Author:** ![thorfourwinds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@thorfourwinds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorfourwinds)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1427 "2011-11-22T20:45:11Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> (…)  
> and I was told by a Mod not to start a thread about Fukushima.
> 
> I almost bitched about it at the time, but then I realized, nobody gives a fuck.

Greetings:

Interesting post.

More interesting in what was not said, but inferred.

Please consider this and we look forward to your response.

The total number of days between Friday, March 11, 2011 and Saturday, November 5, 2011 is 240 days.

The radiation poisoning of we, the people, our children, pets, food, water and our land  
has continued unabated - 24/7/365

- for 7 months, 26 days … which is:

• 20,736,000 seconds  
• 345,600 minutes  
• 5,760 hours  
• 33 + weeks

This insanity must be addressed in a positive way and brought to a successful conclusion, so we are now - more than ever - committed to sharing vital information so as to facilitate positive actions by our brothers and sisters worldwide.

The major problems, other than outright stupidity and MSM duplicity, are apathy and ignorance, or the “why worry” attitude.

BTW, "nobody’ is not necessarily everybody.

We think you have been rendering a much-needed service in attempting to sound the alert (albeit perhaps "pearls before swine…,’ considering the juvenile attacks) by the few pages we scanned in order to formulate this, our first post.

We’ll give it a go.  
[RADIATION WATCH 2011](http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread771971/pg1)  
In Peace, Love & Light  
thorfourwinds

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1428 "2011-11-22T21:38:12Z")

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Geez, if you are going to set up a sock, at least try to make it sound less like he’s from the planet Zarkon.

Regards,  
Shodan

PS - as mentioned to another hemp-head, good-bye in advance.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1429 "2011-11-22T21:40:29Z")

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The total number of dicks your mom took is three

- at the same time … which is:

• 18 inches  
• 1.5 feet  
• 0.0027 furlongs  
• 20 dollars  
• 120 pesos  
• 1 goat

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1430 "2011-11-22T22:40:07Z")

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A three penised goat? Oh the wonders of modern science.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1431 "2011-11-22T22:58:15Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> A three penised goat? Oh the wonders of modern science.

A similar proximate cause as to what create [Blinky](http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRtR-L_j6PeuEfu29TeB2lxGJWN3PWu1Dxpujsbv_LlM_3h0WM2)?

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1432 "2011-11-22T23:34:36Z")

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Do any of the studies mention the number of dead?  
If they do, is it a two-digit number?

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1433 "2011-11-23T12:12:58Z")

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> [@thorfourwinds](#):
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> Greetings:
> 
> Interesting post.
> 
> More interesting in what was not said, but inferred.
> 
> Please consider this and we look forward to your response.
> 
> …

Hmm … your style reminds me of anonymous, not sure if that is by intent but it is enough to give me pause.

> [@thorfourwinds](#):
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> …The major problems, other than outright stupidity and MSM duplicity, are apathy and ignorance, or the “why worry” attitude.

Not sure if you mean in the general population, or the self serving bastards that run the power plants. And are busy selling the world on how safe nuclear is.

> [@thorfourwinds](#):
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> BTW, "nobody’ is not necessarily everybody.

I only meant it in regards to this forum, not the world at large.

> [@thorfourwinds](#):
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> …We think you have been rendering a much-needed service in attempting to sound the alert (albeit perhaps "pearls before swine…,’ considering the juvenile attacks) by the few pages we scanned in order to formulate this, our first post.

OK now that shit really sounds like anonymous. Which makes me wonder, how does anonymous feel about this monstrous clusterfuck of stupid, denial and lies?

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1434 "2011-11-23T12:21:22Z")

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> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> Do any of the studies mention the number of dead?  
> If they do, is it a two-digit number?

I’ve been thinking a lot about “the dead”, or the “number of deaths”, and realized nuclear power plants and coal power plants may have much in common, when it comes to deaths, as well as waste. Maybe money as well.  
We all saw how coal power plants were instantly trotted out in order to reassure the worried that nuclear was far safer. How coal (mostly from lung damage they say) kills, the number 35,000 a year was thrown about. If that is true (and there is no way to actually know), that would be a million deaths in just the last thirty years.

A million people killed by coal power plants.

Now if the nuclear cheerleader really gave a shit about that, they might be talking about that, a lot, because that is a lot of dead people. That is a lot of lawsuits, a lot of pissed off families, a lot of suffering, and a huge drain on the economy, because the deaths were neither fast nor cheap.

So how is this like nuclear? Same thing could be happening, a million people could have died (from cancers) due to nuclear pollution in the last thirty years.

Same thing as with the coal deaths. You can’t prove it. You can’t point to even a dozen people who died and say it was due to nuclear pollution. Same for coal pollution.

Both industries benefit from the simple fact you can’t prove shit. Much less collect damages.

They both also generate a shit ton of money for those who own the power plants. Except maybe TEPCO right now.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1435 "2011-11-23T12:23:59Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Geez, if you are going to set up a sock, at least try to make it sound less like he’s from the planet Zarkon.

That’s insulting as hell man. Not that you are making a baseless accusation, I expect that from the unwashed idiots of the world, but that you actually think my imagination is so vapid.

I would rant about it, but I just don’t care about you enough.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1436 "2011-12-10T04:59:36Z")

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[http://csb.scichina.com:8080/kxtbe/EN/abstract/abstract504775.shtml](http://csb.scichina.com:8080/kxtbe/EN/abstract/abstract504775.shtml)

**Amplitudes, rates, periodicities and causes of temperature variations in the past 2485 years and future trends over the central-eastern Tibetan Plateau**

LIU Yu1,2\*, CAI QiuFang1, SONG HuiMing1,3, AN ZhiSheng1, Hans W. LINDERHOLM4

1. The State Key Laboratory of Loess and Quaternary Geology, Institute of Earth Environment, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Xi’an 710075, China;
2. Department of Environmental Science and Technology, School of Human Settlements and Civil Engineering, Xi’an Jiaotong University, Xi’an 710049, China;
3. Graduate University of Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing 100049, China;
4. Regional Climate Group, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Gothenburg, SE-40530 Gothenburg, Sweden

Abstract：  
Amplitudes, rates, periodicities, causes and future trends of temperature variations based on tree rings for the past 2485 years on the central-eastern Tibetan Plateau were analyzed. The results showed that extreme climatic events on the Plateau, such as the Medieval Warm Period, Little Ice Age and 20th Century Warming appeared synchronously with those in other places worldwide. The largest amplitude and rate of temperature change occurred during the Eastern Jin Event (343-425 AD), and not in the late 20th century. There were significant cycles of 1324 a, 800 a, 199 a, 110 a and 2-3 a in the 2485-year temperature series. The 1324 a, 800 a, 199 a and 110 a cycles are associated with solar activity, which greatly affects the Earth surface temperature. The long-term trends (\>1000 a) of temperature were controlled by the millennium-scale cycle, and amplitudes were dominated by multi-century cycles. Moreover, cold intervals corresponded to sunspot minimums. The prediction indicated that the temperature will decrease in the future until to 2068 AD and then increase again.

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**Author:** ![Waenara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@Waenara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waenara)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1437 "2011-12-10T05:38:57Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> **Amplitudes, rates, periodicities and causes of temperature variations in the past 2485 years and future trends over the central-eastern Tibetan Plateau**

What does this have to do with anything? Did you really need to bump this dead horse _yet again_ to post something completely unrelated to Fukushima?

If you thought that temperature trends in Tibet are interesting, you could have started a new thread you know. _Protip_: then more people might actually read it, take you seriously, and respond with a good discussion, rather than blow it off as yet another post in this crazy thread.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1438 "2011-12-10T07:55:57Z")

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Why won’t this thread die?!?!!?

Die, dammit!

_stab stab stab_

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1439 "2011-12-10T15:31:46Z")

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You need more cursing and spittle to make it a rant.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rantings-about-stupid-nuclear-reporting-and-i-want-to-bitchslap-somebody-also-other-crap/576077/1440 "2011-12-10T15:38:37Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> Why won’t this thread die?!?!!?
> 
> Die, dammit!
> 
> _stab stab stab_

I don’t think we’ve tried sowing the thread with salt yet.

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