# Rap and Hip-Hop--most clever lyricists? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 31, 2008, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661 "2008-01-31T01:05:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/41 "2008-01-31T19:52:17Z")
[QUOTE=Taber] I’m not very knowledgable about rap, but I think POS’s “We don’t wave our hands in the air like we just don’t care anymore, we wave our hands in the air like we just don’t care anymore” was clever [/QUOTE] _When a rapper says “throw your hands up”, I don’t When a rapper says “make some noise”, I won’t Bossing your audience is awful pompous So I’ll never do it - that’s the STD promise_ – Schaffer The Darklord, “[The Rappist](http://youtube.com/watch?v=clcZah3P4cs)” ---
**Author:** ![NajaNivea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NajaNivea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NajaNivea)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/42 "2008-01-31T20:20:26Z")
Oh man, MC Paul Barman’s [“The Joy of Your World”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UoaRS3bE6g&feature=related) is hilarious. It’s a rough start, but he seems to relax and hit his stride with some pretty tasty(NSFW) lyrics towards the end, and cracks me up when he gets down with his bad self bustin’ some serious nerdcore moves at the very end of the video 😃 I’d never heard any nerdcore. Some of the lyrics are really great but the artists themselves are so vocally awkward, it seems like it would be hard to listen to as anything other than a novelty. I wish they were a little less… precise with their pronunciation, for one thing. Aside from that, so far I’ve also checked out Rakim, J-Live, Big L, Nas, Method Man, and Cannibal Ox–some of this stuff is really great. Blackalicious’ Alphabet Aerobics is impressive 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tds1273](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tds1273](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tds1273)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/43 "2008-01-31T20:38:03Z")
I completely agree with the Del, Sage Francis(one of my top 5 favorite lyricists) and Busdriver nominations. I’d also like to toss in: Aceyalone Aesop Rock Atmosphere Blueprint Blue Scholars Dose-One Dr. Octagon Illogic Haiku D’Etat Living Legends MC Hawking(especially for the SDMB) Pharoahe Monch Qwel Rass Kass Roots Manuva Saul Williams(my all time fav!) The Coup. It is hard to find better writing, in any media, than the names on this list. ---
**Author:** ![NajaNivea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NajaNivea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NajaNivea)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/44 "2008-01-31T20:42:54Z")
Oh! I’d forgotten about Dr. Octagon, a friend introduced me with a few MP3s a while back but I never did pick up any albums. I love the songs I’ve got though. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/45 "2008-01-31T20:52:44Z")
Has anyone mentioned Sean P? I don’t see him in the thread, after skimming. I am posting from work, so I have to just skim quickly. ---
**Author:** ![tds1273](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tds1273](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tds1273)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/46 "2008-01-31T20:59:01Z")
**Saul Williams** Untimely Meditations: > [@](#): > > Five senses can not sense the fact of our existence > and thats the only fact > in fact there are no facts. > Fax me a fact and I’ll telegram a hologram and telephone the son of man and tell him he is done. > God and I are one. > Times moon, times stars, times sun > The factor is me; you remember me > I slung amythest rocks on Saturn’s blocks > till I got caught up by earthling cops > So I stopped combing my mind so my thoughts could lock > … > Life is more than what meets the eye > and I > Elevate I to the third but even that shit seems absurd > when your thoughts leave you third eye-solated. > No man is an island but I often feel alone > so I find peace through > Ohm Wine: > [@](#): > > I can recite the grass on a hill > and memorize the moon > I know the cloud forms of love by heart > and have brought tears to the eye of a storm > My memory banks- vaults of autumn forests > and Amazon river banks > I have screamed them in to sunsets > that echo in earthquakes > … > We put language in zoos to observe caged thoughts > and toss P-funk and peanuts at intellect > Motherfuckers think these are metaphors > I speak what I see > All world and words are metaphors of me. ---
**Author:** ![shefDave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@shefDave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shefDave)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/47 "2008-01-31T21:03:06Z")
A lot of great people have already been mentioned (Eminem, most of the Wu-Tang, Big L and Pharoahe Monch to name a few). However, I’m shocked that no-one’s mentioned Jay-Z yet e.g. Blue Magic: > [@](#): > > _Blame Reagan for making me into a monster > Blame Oliver North and Iran-Contra > I ran contraband that they sponsored > Before this rhyming stuff we was in concert_ Or Q-Tip and Phife Dawg from A Tribe Called Quest for that matter. Some of the greatest hip-hop lyricism ever can be found in Outkast’s _Aquemini_ Clipse’s 2006 album _Hell Hath No Fury_ is insanely good throughout. Also Common, Black Thought from The Roots, Talib Kweli, Aesop Rock and Gift of Gab from Blackalicious are all great. ---
**Author:** ![tds1273](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tds1273](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tds1273)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/48 "2008-01-31T21:06:04Z")
[QUOTE=NajaNivea] Oh! I’d forgotten about Dr. Octagon, a friend introduced me with a few MP3s a while back but I never did pick up any albums. I love the songs I’ve got though. [/QUOTE] Blue Flowers from the album Dr. Octagonecologist: > [@](#): > > Dr. Octagon paramedic fetus of the East > with priests I’m from the Church of the Operating Room > with the strike support scalpels since the holocaust > I do indeed in greed explore meet the patients > Back to brooms with the nurse with the voodoo curse > Holding up office lights standing at huge heights > Back and forth left wing swing to North > East and South with blood pouring down your mouth > I come prepared with the white suit and stethascope > Listen to your heartbeat, delete beep beep BEEP > Your insurance is high, but my price is cheap > Look at the land… Blue Flowers! ---
**Author:** ![tds1273](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tds1273](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tds1273)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/49 "2008-01-31T21:15:32Z")
**Aesop Rock** > [@](#): > > Pull the pin out, sheep creep in wolf garb > Fronted by the Hail Mary parry lunge mixer > Kill the populace for stability, jeopardy’s a stickler > Its bob and weave amalgam played the falcon to your fixture > I branch out, arms flailing backwards > wailin upon a tidy sound circuit > slightly foul Gershwin > with a bed of nails and drumlust plus disgusted service > workin in shifts opposite the asbestos brain furnace > I be the now observatory eye ear antenna feeler > Spittin like a dragon with a similar demeanor > stood innocent bystand witness the diehard fans turn Rip Van > in the poppy fields of N.Y.'s orchestrated brick gauntlet > Now I’m thinkin who am I Jabberwocky Superfly bent left > Pushin war without the ten step cushion and what (what) > I plan to hold this beat positive sacred in these golde veins > Until the day I die from grimace overload > It’s shock (it’s shock) > treatment offered by the weekend Has there ever been a better two word combination than: Jabberwocky Superfly ---
**Author:** ![tds1273](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tds1273](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tds1273)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/50 "2008-01-31T21:31:34Z")
More **Saul** : Coded Language > [@](#): > > Whereas, breakbeats have been the missing link connecting the diasporic > community to it’s drum woven past > Whereas the quantised drum has allowed the whirling mathematicians to > calculate the ever changing distance between rock and stardom. > Whereas the velocity of the spinning vinyl, cross-faded, spun backwards, and > re-released at the same given moment of recorded history , yet at a > different moment in time’s continuum has allowed history to catch up with > the present. Act III Scene 2(Shakespeare) > [@](#): > > I didn’t vote for this state of affairs. My emotional state’s got me prostrate, fearing my fears. In all reality I’m under prepared. 'Cause I’m ready for war but not sure if I’m ready to care. And that’s why I’m under prepared. 'Cause I’m ready to fight, but most fights have me fighting back tears. 'Cause the truth is really I’m scared. Not scared of the truth, but just scared of the length you’ll go to fight it. > … > If you have tears prepare to shed them now. For you share the guilt of blood spilt in accordance with the Dow Jones. Dow drops fresh crop skull and bones. A machete in the heady: Hutu, Tutsi, Leone. An Afghani in a shanty. Doodle dandy yank on! An Iraqi in Gap khaki. Coca Coma come on! > … > As long as oils in the soil, truth is never concrete. So we dare to represent those with the barest of feet. 'Cause the laws to which we’re loyal keep the soil deplete. It’s our job to not let history repeat. > … > So here’s the plan. The ides of march are always at hand. And when the power hungry strike, they strike the poorest of man. And if you dare put up a fight, they’ll come and fight for your land. And they’ll call it liberation or salvation… > My desire is to live within a nation on fire, where creative passions burn and raise the stakes ever higher. > … > Warfare ain’t humanitarian. You’re scaring me, son. Why not fight to feed the homeless, jobless, fight inflation?! Why not fight for our own healthcare and our education?! And instead, invest in that erasable lead, 'cause their twisted propaganda can’t erase all the dead. I could post his stuff for days, there’s so much more to add, but I’ll give it a break for now. ---
**Author:** ![tds1273](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tds1273](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tds1273)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/51 "2008-01-31T22:01:38Z")
One more for now I guess… **Illogic** -[1000 Whispers](http://www.lyricsreg.com/lyrics/illogic/1%2C000+Whispers/) > [@](#): > > If a picture’s worth a thousand words I’ll paint a thousand pictures > To symbolize the decibel levels bred of a thousand whispers > To mummify useless unknown poems spit a shower with gold glitter > Pressure increase unleash the catacomb splitters > And for some reason you wonder why your puzzle is a jigsaw > When you fail to decipher the mores code to simply avoid the pitfalls > If need be I can get raw - just pocket the latex > But that’s like asking why the man with no legs crawls to see the apex > Or why the young planet’s seeds won’t blossom into a garden > Parallel to your search for stardom where you leave breadcrumbs and jargon > That you can’t even feel. So how’s that for surface tension? > Every step shows you’re a worthless henchman itching to meet your maker > I’d rather finger-paint than take a tainted pen and curse the paper > Voice box turns cauldron, saliva boils, then thoughts are vapor SoulPosition(Blueprint)-Inhale [SIC] > [@](#): > > My quotes the annictote for all of life’s missery > Study all my hard shit and learn to think critically > Forget about the bullshit you learned back in history > Visit every continent without movin’ physically > Exercise mentally, get in shape spiritually > Exercise mentally, get in shape spiritually > Give in to me and take deep breaths of my imagery > Exhale, all the hate you had for your enemy > Exhale, all the hate you had for your enemy ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/52 "2008-01-31T22:21:15Z")
[QUOTE=BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed] I believe it’s “sensei…” Sorry, don’t mean to nitpick, and if it’s just a brain fart I’m doubly sorry. I just know I like to have the lyrics corrected for me if I’m not understanding something, so I can look at them and say “Ohhh, is _that_ what they’re saying?!” [/QUOTE] Sorry. Didn’t edit them. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/53 "2008-01-31T22:37:51Z")
Can’t believe nobody’s mentioned Nice ‘n’ Smooth yet. Or Slick Rick. Two of the absolute best. Rhyming is one thing, anybody can rhyme. But real WORDPLAY, that’s a whole different story. Nice ‘n’ Smooth: > [@](#): > > Pete’s rickety rocket was my favorite cartoon > After marriage the honeymoon > I’ll be damned, gag me with a spoon > Who loves Popeye, Alice the goon > Ladies let your body flow > Send a chill up your spine like an eskimo > Here’s a backstage pass to a funky show > Come give me a kiss under the mistletoe > Greg Nice, my life’s like a fairy tale > Orca… was a great big whale > I knew a fat girl who broke the scale > You won’t tell, I won’t tell > Clientele I must excel > Took a little test, I passed then failed > Breaks… HUH, no need to hit 'em > Skins, ya got 'em - I wanna get wit 'em! Slick Rick- [La Di Da Di](http://www.lyricsfreak.com/s/slick+rick/la+di+da+di_10217385.html) is the track that a good 77.2% of modern rap songs considered “good” owe a very great deal to, or outright stole from. Eminem’s wordplay: > [@](#): > > I’m like a head trip to listen to, cause I’m only givin’ you > Things you joke about with your friends inside your living room > The only difference is I got the balls to say it > In front of y’all and I don’t gotta be false or sugarcoated at all > I just get on the mic and spit it > And whether you like to admit it {_err_ I just shit it > Better than ninety percent of you rappers out can > Then you wonder how can kids eat up these albums like Valiums > It’s funny; cause at the rate I’m goin’ when I’m thirty > I’ll be the only person in the nursin’ home flirting > Pinchin’ nurses asses when I’m jackin’ off with Jergens > And I’m jerkin but this whole bag of Viagra isn’t workin’ > And every single person is a Slim Shady lurkin’ > He could be workin’ at Burger King, spittin’ on your onion rings > {_hach_ or in the parkinn lot, circling, > Screamin’ “I don’t give a fuck!” > With his windows down and his system up Those are SONGS. The flow, the wordplay, the tone of voice- all of those things go together to make you realize that these guys are spitting syllables and throwing inflections that you MIGHT be able to follow along with after a year of practice but only if you could stop laughing first. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/54 "2008-01-31T22:58:37Z")
[QUOTE=Phase42] _When a rapper says “throw your hands up”, I don’t When a rapper says “make some noise”, I won’t Bossing your audience is awful pompous So I’ll never do it - that’s the STD promise_ – Schaffer The Darklord, “[The Rappist](http://youtube.com/watch?v=clcZah3P4cs)” [/QUOTE] Word to StD, man. He’s the first artist I’ve “accidentally” discovered in a very long time. I snagged some of his songs and even put “Nerd Lust” on my MySpace page (how fucking COOL am I?!) ---
**Author:** ![tds1273](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tds1273](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tds1273)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/55 "2008-01-31T23:19:11Z")
Ah hell, just because it’s a slow day and since this is the SDMB MC Hawking Entropy (remake of OPP) > [@](#): > > Creationists always try to use the second law, > to disprove evolution, but their theory has a flaw. > The second law is quite precise about where it applies, > only in a closed system must the entropy count rise. > The earth’s not a closed system’ it’s powered by the sun, > so fuck the damn creationists, Doomsday get my gun! > That, in a nutshell, is what entropy’s about, > you’re now down with a discount. E=MC Hawking > [@](#): > > There ain’t another motherfucker hard like me > I’m a universal constant, I’m a singularity > Got doomsday at my back with fat-ass tracks > He pumps funk in the cracks and cuts wax with an axe > So listen up bitch, 'cause there may be a test > My style is smooth, but it’s hard to digest > My science is tight, rhymes faster than light > Like a ton of tnt I’m about to ignite ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/56 "2008-01-31T23:24:08Z")
I like Will Smith. And he does not even has to resort to using curse words. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/57 "2008-01-31T23:26:14Z")
Parent’s Just Don’t Understand Lyrics > [@](#): > > I remember one year > > My mom took me school shopping > > It was me, my brother, my mom, oh, my pop, and my little sister > > All hopped in the car > > We headed downtown to the Gallery Mall > > My mom started bugging with the clothes she chose > > I didn’t say nothing at first > > I just turned up my nose > > She said, “What’s wrong? This shirt cost $20” > > I said, “Mom, this shirt is plaid with a butterfly collar!” > > The next half hour was the same old thing > > My mother buying me clothes from 1963 > > And then she lost her mind and did the ultimate > > I asked her for Adidas and she bought me Zips! > > I said, “Mom, what are you doing, you’re ruining my rep” > > She said, “You’re only sixteen, you don’t have a rep yet” ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/58 "2008-02-01T00:08:14Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] I like Will Smith. And he does not even has to resort to using curse words. [/QUOTE] I know you are joking, (as was Eminem in the song you are quoting. Will Smith wasn’t joking when he said that dumb shit at an award show though), but the truth is Will Smith was not a bad party rapper when he first came out. He had a couple of nice joints in the beginnnig. And his DJ was _nice!_ I mean, he was no DJ Premier, but he definitely had skills. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea666f/32.png) [@Two\_and\_a\_Half\_Inches\_of\_Fun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_and_a_Half_Inches_of_Fun)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/59 "2008-02-01T00:35:08Z")
[QUOTE=Nzinga, Seated] I know you are joking, (as was Eminem in the song you are quoting. Will Smith wasn’t joking when he said that dumb shit at an award show though), but the truth is Will Smith was not a bad party rapper when he first came out. He had a couple of nice joints in the beginnnig. And his DJ was _nice!_ I mean, he was no DJ Premier, but he definitely had skills. [/QUOTE] I am quoting an early song of Will Smith (not Eminem, I do not even listen to Eminem). And I really do think that Will Smith is a clever lyricists. Almost all the songs on his greatest hits album have clever lyrics. They are not deep or profound, but they are clever. I do not have any idea what he said at any awards show. > **[Will Smith - Will Smith - Greatest Hits - Amazon.com Music](https://www.amazon.com/Will-Smith-Greatest-Hits/dp/B00007E8UU)** > > 15 Songs starting with "Girls Ain't Nothing But Trouble". ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661/60 "2008-02-01T01:05:04Z")
[QUOTE=Two and a Half Inches of Fun] I am quoting an early song of Will Smith (not Eminem, I do not even listen to Eminem). And I really do think that Will Smith is a clever lyricists. Almost all the songs on his greatest hits album have clever lyrics. They are not deep or profound, but they are clever. I do not have any idea what he said at any awards show. > **[Will Smith - Will Smith - Greatest Hits - Amazon.com Music](https://www.amazon.com/Will-Smith-Greatest-Hits/dp/B00007E8UU)** > > 15 Songs starting with "Girls Ain't Nothing But Trouble". [/QUOTE] Oh! Will Smith had made the comment that he doesn’t have to curst in his rhymes to sell records. And then Eminem put it in a rhyme, Will Smith don’t have to cuss in his rhymes to sell albums Well I do So fuck Will Smith And fuck you too Or something like that. So when you mentioned that he doesn’t have to curse, I thought you were making reference. My mistake. Much better artists that have many profanity-free songs and don’t have to curse (but occasionally do, as did Will) : Black Thought Rakim KRS-ONE De La Soul…actually it’s a really, really, really long list. Good artists that have tons of curse free songs are legion. Sell-out commercial trash out there that is curse free is legion also. Come to think of it…I can’t figure out just what point Will was trying to make when he said that! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-and-hip-hop-most-clever-lyricists/435661.md?page=4)