# Rap, Folk, Blues Or Country?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 1, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083 "2006-06-01T22:50:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/21 "2006-06-02T03:26:24Z")

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Gives **Hippy Hollow** “Kewl Points” and “Props.”

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/22 "2006-06-02T03:42:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Lemur866]  
A man sees his buddy lying on the ground. He goes to help him, but his buddy is shot by a rival group and is dying. His buddy reminisces about the old times, makes some funeral requests, then dies.  
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I’m guessing Johnny Cash’s _Streets Of Laredo_, which would be country.

The father of a young man, dying in prison, makes his son swear not to lead the kind of misspent life he has, enjoining him to a career of non-violence: the young man is thus widely scorned for his pusillanimity. However, after his girlfriend is gang-raped, he renounces passivity and enacts a violent revenge, confronting and killing all of the perpetrators in a bar and thus publically reclaiming his manhood.

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/23 "2006-06-02T03:54:03Z")

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Coward of the County, Kenny Rogers. Country.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/24 "2006-06-02T04:30:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Askia]  
Coward of the County, Kenny Rogers. Country.  
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Yup.

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**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/25 "2006-06-02T05:07:39Z")

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A man and woman in their mid twenties meet when the man defends the woman’s honor at her job. They go on a road trip, run out of cash and decide to make some quick money by assisting with a drug deal. The buyers turn out to be undercover police, and the woman shoots an agent. The man defends the woman’s honor to his death, leaving her fairly well off financially and apparently free of guilt.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/26 "2006-06-02T05:15:55Z")

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The singer repeatedly announces his preference, which almost amounts to an obsession, for women with ample posteriors.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/27 "2006-06-02T05:21:18Z")

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The singer repeatedly announces his preference, which almost amounts to an obsession, for women with ample posteriors.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/28 "2006-06-02T05:23:55Z")

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**Case Sensitive** may have an obsession of his own! But that sounds like the famous Sir Mix-a-Lot song, although there are also some famous rock songs (and more than a few blues, too) to the same effect.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/29 "2006-06-02T05:26:33Z")

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A man leaves town on his horse, which is named after a historic patriot. He had to flee town because of an indiscretion with the sheriff’s daughter, and owns nothing except a gun and some beer. He meets a fellow traveler and, after some threats, they meet another accomplice and rob a saloon, killing two patrons and wounding the piano player.

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**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/30 "2006-06-02T05:26:58Z")

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Could be Sir Mix-A-lot, Wreckks N Effect, EU, LL Cool J or Sisqo.

Baby Got Back, Rumpshaker, Doin’ the Butt, Big Ole Butt, or Thong Song.

All rap, incidentally.

If this is a country song, I’ma kill you!

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/31 "2006-06-02T06:18:50Z")

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[QUOTE=cornflakes]  
A man and woman in their mid twenties meet when the man defends the woman’s honor at her job. They go on a road trip, run out of cash and decide to make some quick money by assisting with a drug deal. The buyers turn out to be undercover police, and the woman shoots an agent. The man defends the woman’s honor to his death, leaving her fairly well off financially and apparently free of guilt.  
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_The Road Goes on Forever_, by Joe Ely? Robert Earl Keen? Somebody else? Anyway, I suppose it’s country.

[QUOTE=Marley23]  
A man leaves town on his horse, which is named after a historic patriot. He had to flee town because of an indiscretion with the sheriff’s daughter, and owns nothing except a gun and some beer. He meets a fellow traveler and, after some threats, they meet another accomplice and rob a saloon, killing two patrons and wounding the piano player.  
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_Paul Revere_, by the Beastie Boys (rap).

A stranger comes into town alone. At the bar, he buys a drink for a strange woman. They go to leave and she tries to steal his ride. He shoots and kills her in plain sight, and then continues on his way out of town.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/32 "2006-06-02T08:33:54Z")

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The sister of a man who has been just been executed confesses to the murder that he was unjustly convicted of, as well as a second murder that no one else even knows about because the victim supposedly fled town. The convicted man had been found by the police standing next to the dead body of a man he had a grudge against, holding a gun that he had just fired, and the gun’s bullets matched the bullets that killed the man. In fact, the sister had killed the two people (and then hid one body) with that gun, put the gun back where her brother would find it, and allowed him to go over, in an angry rage, carrying the gun, to the house where the one dead body was lying.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/33 "2006-06-02T08:40:57Z")

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[QUOTE=Askia]  
Could be Sir Mix-A-lot, Wreckks N Effect, EU, LL Cool J or Sisqo.

Baby Got Back, Rumpshaker, Doin’ the Butt, Big Ole Butt, or Thong Song.

All rap, incidentally.

If this is a country song, I’ma kill you!  
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Nope, nope, nope, nope, and nope. And it isn’t Spinal Tap’s _Big Bottom_, either. Tee hee.

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/34 "2006-06-02T08:48:08Z")

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Case Sensitive, your description matches a lot of songs. If you want us to guess the one you’re thinking of, you’re going to have to describe it in more detail.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/35 "2006-06-02T10:48:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Wendell Wagner]  
Case Sensitive, your description matches a lot of songs. If you want us to guess the one you’re thinking of, you’re going to have to describe it in more detail.  
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OK: it’s not rap, it’s not _Big Bottom_, but the title and genre are not a million miles away. I can’t describe the lyrics in much more detail because there _isn’t_ much more detail, save perhaps that the singer seems to begun his obsession at an early age with a both callipygianous and adventurous nanny…

Time to let the ladies speak: this singer constantly professes to have simple traditional values, but she turns out to be deeply materialistic. Indeed, it seems she will only consider a man who can provide her with expensive cars, jewellery, furs, apartments and money to hoard or gamble. A millionaire, no less.

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**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/36 "2006-06-02T10:59:42Z")

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That sounds like “Fat Bottom Girls” to me, although I can’t think of the group. I’d call it rock’n’roll because I hear it played on the local classic rock station.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/37 "2006-06-02T11:20:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Siege]  
That sounds like “Fat Bottom Girls” to me, although I can’t think of the group. I’d call it rock’n’roll because I hear it played on the local classic rock station.  
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We have a winnah! _Fat Bottomed Girls_ by Queen it is.

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**Author:** ![SkeptiJess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SkeptiJess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkeptiJess)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/38 "2006-06-02T11:45:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Wendell Wagner]  
The sister of a man who has been just been executed confesses to the murder that he was unjustly convicted of, as well as a second murder that no one else even knows about because the victim supposedly fled town. The convicted man had been found by the police standing next to the dead body of a man he had a grudge against, holding a gun that he had just fired, and the gun’s bullets matched the bullets that killed the man. In fact, the sister had killed the two people (and then hid one body) with that gun, put the gun back where her brother would find it, and allowed him to go over, in an angry rage, carrying the gun, to the house where the one dead body was lying.  
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_The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia_. Country.

Mine: a young boy watches his father, mother, and siblings struggle to make ends meet performing manual labor. He vows that he will never stoop to such labor himself. He grows up and runs away, turning to a life of crime. One day a man insults the boy and the boy kills him. The boy is executed for the murder, but consoles himself with the thought that, at least, he never worked the way he saw his family doing when he was a child.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/39 "2006-06-02T11:54:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Lemur866]  
That’s…country or country/folk, or maybe country/blues or blues/folk.

Anyway, it’s Tecumseh Valley.  
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Written by Townes van Zandt, usually considered a folk singer. But he was seriously influenced by Lightinin’ Hopkins & played pretty fair blues guitar–on his good nights. He took the songwriter road to Nashville, although he adjusted to the Country Music Industry about as well as another hero of his–Hank Williams.

Folk/Blues/Country

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**Author:** ![dbygawdcapn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dbygawdcapn/32/3995_2.png) [@dbygawdcapn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dbygawdcapn)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-folk-blues-or-country/359083/40 "2006-06-02T12:23:57Z")

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> Mine: a young boy watches his father, mother, and siblings struggle to make ends meet performing manual labor. He vows that he will never stoop to such labor himself. He grows up and runs away, turning to a life of crime. One day a man insults the boy and the boy kills him. The boy is executed for the murder, but consoles himself with the thought that, at least, he never worked the way he saw his family doing when he was a child.

I Never Picked Cotton - Johnny Cash country

Mine : Parting words from a varied cast of characters indicates a common uncertainty of their ultimate destination.

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