# Rap Sucks **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 7, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-sucks/665647 "2013-08-07T23:39:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-sucks/665647/82 "2013-08-09T17:39:11Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I decided some time ago to not object to people calling it music. > > I draw the line at calling rapping “singing,” though. THAT implies vocal melody-making. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone call rap “singing.” ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-sucks/665647/83 "2013-08-09T18:04:20Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone call rap “singing.” Me either. Ever. The only time I’ve ever heard the two even related is from the “Get off my lawn!” crowd when they say, “They can’t even sing!” ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-sucks/665647/84 "2013-08-09T18:39:00Z")
Rappers singing. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZP84FuSM7c) ---
**Author:** ![SuntanTigerTamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@SuntanTigerTamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanTigerTamer)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-sucks/665647/85 "2013-08-10T17:04:07Z")
It’s worth noting that terrible singers make amazing rappers, see: Future (“Hard”), and Max B (“Tell Me Something I Dont Know”), and Gunplay (“Bible On The Dash”). ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-sucks/665647/86 "2013-08-10T17:56:05Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > I’m always curious about how people who hate rap feel about Once in a Lifetime by The Talking Heads. Once in a Lifetime (or rather, the whole album “Remain in Light” but Once in a Lifetime is the best known song from there) is a mess of sampling, polyrhythms, chanting, call/response experimenting and so on. For the most part it’s even weirder than rap, musically, it’s like avant garde experimental rap. > > This isn’t a “gotcha” or some weird “HA! You like white people when they do the same thing, RACIST!” thing. I legitimately wonder how people feel about it any why, if they like it more (or dislike it more) they feel it’s significantly different or “more musiclike” or whatever. There are a slew of popular songs where the lyrics are much rhythmic than melodic. Like [“Numb”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2lbiS1fris) by U2. Or the iconic “Subterranean Homesick Blues” by Bob Dylan. ---
**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-sucks/665647/87 "2013-08-11T00:03:53Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone call rap “singing.” I’ve definitely heard rap singer instead of rapper by a news anchor or two. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-sucks/665647/88 "2013-08-11T00:26:10Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I decided some time ago to not object to people calling it music. > > I draw the line at calling rapping “singing,” though. THAT implies vocal melody-making. [Sort of like Akon?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKDdT_nyP54) You’re right though. Rapping isn’t “singing”. It’s “rapping”. If it was singing, it would be something like R&B. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rap-sucks/665647.md?page=4)