I went to college about 25 years ago and back then a similar thing happened. All these stories about women getting raped and the universities covering it up. They had these events called “Womyn, Take Back The Night” (yes, that’s how they spelled it) where all the women would march around at night holding signs, and then go someplace and have these speakers.
The only real demand seems to be more security and on-campus rape crisis centers. Which most schools opened.
But later people noticed that if say your a campus of 30,000 students, if 1 in 5 women were truly being raped that would be over 15,000 rapes, (or broken down nearly 50 per day) so why arent those rape crisis centers not being flooded with victims? Didnt matter. Universities had to keep funding them.
Again, even if we ignore the intoxication question, the study we had been discussing still has “Completed forced penetration” of women at 12.3%. That’s general population, with possible undersampling of college students.
Has anyone posted a “1 in 5” cite that says those 1 in 5 happen at college?
Further, my cite, at least, says that the ~1/5th figure goes for women who report having ever been raped/sexually assaulted, not just in the last year. This would include (based on the criteria in the link) assaults from their childhood as well as their adulthood.
Many woman who are date raped never report it. I didn’t. I called a rape crisis center - YEARS later when I was in a room with my bookclub and discovered MOST of us had been date raped. But I never called the police. Why? Its he said, she said - there would be a lot of bother and no conviction.
Security doesn’t help when you aren’t talking about walking across campus and a guy jumping out from the bushes - and instead you are talking about a study session with a guy you like, that turns into a makeout session with a guy you are interested in, which turns into a guy who outweighs you by 100 pounds holding you down while he puts in penis in you. More than once in my college years I left my shirt and bra in some guys dorm room and ended in topless in the hall because my clothes were held hostage in exchange for sex.
And a rape crisis center is a great resource to turn to - but women turn to a lot of places - most often their friends - and some keep it inside.
My math is 30,000 total students, half being female so 15,000, 20% is 3,000. Do some rounding, give or take 300 days a year (they are not at school the whole time) and its about 50 per day. So if even 1 in 10 women come forward that still is 5 per day.
They are in a stats class, presumably, where they might learn that incidences of assault over the course of a lifetime are not the same thing as incidences of assault in a single year.
Well then the answer is not a rape crisis center but better education.
Like in your situation above. I dont care how much some guy outweighs you, you scream, yell rape, tell him no, threaten to report, and if that doesnt work shove your finger into his eyeballs till he screams.
Rape is bad, its horrible. Rape plus a beating is worse for lots of us. Rape and ending up dead at the end of it has no upside.
Each woman makes the choices she makes during her rape that she thinks give her the best chances of survival and the least scars - emotional or physical.
Mansplaining. Example - a man telling a woman what she should do while being raped. Mansplaining with a dose of blame: A man telling a woman what she should have done when she was raped.
The question for this thread is not whether the rape stats from this or that source are accurate, nor where the “intoxicated” line should be drawn – is it? The question is whether the Democrats are or are not cynically “exploiting” the campus-rape issue as the OP asserts. Therefore I would ask the OP: short of completely ignoring it, how could the Dems respond to it in a way you would not call “exploiting” it?
Nor is it, like, accurate. The accuser was under 18, drunk enough to vomit on her way to the expelled student’s room, and had almost no memory of the incident. There’s no evidence at all that the expelled student was drunk except that he said he was drunk. Plus, he didn’t complain that he was raped.
The standard of proof for the LAPD is considerably higher than that required of the school, so its findings are not close to dispositive. But I withdraw the assertion that there was no evidence he was drunk.
The significance of the fact that the female complained (and the male didn’t) is that Belowjob finds it significant that Occidental only expelled the male. Well, only the male was accused of rape.