# RAPE! RAPE!! (nope. pron. pron.) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 21, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127 "2007-02-21T20:15:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/1 "2007-02-21T20:15:08Z")
An apartment dweller heard a rape occurring in the apartment above him, so he grabbed a calvary sword, kicked down the door, and… Scared the shit out of a [porn](http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Quirks/Woman_forced_to_choose_job_or_child/20070220-033054-4654r/) viewer. He’s now facing charges of criminal trespass to a dwelling, criminal damage to property and disorderly conduct – all while armed with a dangerous weapon. I hope the charges get thrown out. I, for one, consider the guy to be in the right. The upstairs neighbor should learn how when watching porn, you turn it the fuck down. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/2 "2007-02-21T20:17:36Z")
He couldn’tve stood outside for a second and yelled through the door? It’d be pretty easy to figure out what was going on at that point. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/3 "2007-02-21T20:18:48Z")
Geez. What was he supposed to do? Call the cops and wait forever? This should be a no harm, no foul. Perhaps he should repair the door. Edit: Definitely he should repair the door, but the neighbor should thank him for being concerned and getting involved. Too few do so these days. ---
**Author:** ![feppytweed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/feppytweed/32/4280_2.png) [@feppytweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/feppytweed)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/4 "2007-02-21T20:20:18Z")
[QUOTE=Nurse Carmen] so he grabbed a calvary sword [/QUOTE] The sword of Jesus? I think you meant cavalry. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/5 "2007-02-21T20:20:58Z")
From the linked article, the actions appear reasonable, but it’s also entirely right that this be tested in court. After all, we need to demonstrate that this wasn’t just an excuse to harrass a neighbour or something else. And let’s look at the other side of the coin: suppose someone had been being raped and he had put it down to the neighbour watching a porno vid? ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/6 "2007-02-21T20:22:10Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] He couldn’tve stood outside for a second and yelled through the door? It’d be pretty easy to figure out what was going on at that point. [/QUOTE] Maybe, maybe not, depending on how far from the door the TV was located. Maybe it was in the guys bedroom. Yelling from the front door wouldn’t do much good in that case. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/7 "2007-02-21T20:34:08Z")
BTW, you’d better believe if someone kicked down my door and tried to back me into my closet I would endeavor to dice him like a tomato, no matter what his intentions. You don’t do that shit. It’s not done. Period. > [@Uncommon Sense](#): > > Maybe, maybe not, depending on how far from the door the TV was located. Maybe it was in the guys bedroom. Yelling from the front door wouldn’t do much good in that case. Sure it would. If his neighbor were raping someone, he’d probably notice someone screaming through his door and threatening violence. I mean, think about this–the guy broke down his door brandishing a sword, fercrissakes. Who knows why the fuck he had one in the first place; IME most people who buy functional (not display/novelty) swords start itching for an excuse to use it after a while. What if he were having loud consensual sex with some girl? What would you think of Mr. Samuel L. Jackson busting in ready to kick some ass then? ---
**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/8 "2007-02-21T20:44:19Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] BTW, you’d better believe if someone kicked down my door and tried to back me into my closet I would endeavor to dice him like a tomato, no matter what his intentions. You don’t do that shit. It’s not done. Period. [/QUOTE] OK, beyond all that, I’m sure you’d have the sense to NOT play a porn video loud enough to attract the vigilante squad. ---
**Author:** ![groman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@groman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/groman)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/9 "2007-02-21T20:52:34Z")
This guy is lucky he didn’t get shot. With a gun. Or worse. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/10 "2007-02-21T20:59:15Z")
[QUOTE=Uncommon Sense] OK, beyond all that, I’m sure you’d have the sense to NOT play a porn video loud enough to attract the vigilante squad. [/QUOTE] I do have the sense not to play porn loud enough to attract vigilantes. But being a vigilante means they don’t have the proper training to conduct their own raids. I don’t have a gun, but if I did, I would shoot first and ask questions later upon the sight of a madman with a sword kicking down my door. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/11 "2007-02-21T21:06:29Z")
[QUOTE=feppytweed] The sword of Jesus? [/QUOTE] I think you meant the sword of the hill upon which Jesus was crucified. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/12 "2007-02-21T21:13:33Z")
[QUOTE=feppytweed] The sword of Jesus? I think you meant cavalry. [/QUOTE] No, he meant a calgary sword, like they use up in Canada. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/13 "2007-02-21T21:14:37Z")
[QUOTE=feppytweed] I think you meant cavalry. [/QUOTE] I stand corrected. So he grabbed his Golgotha sword… ---
**Author:** ![blinkingblinking](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@blinkingblinking](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blinkingblinking)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/14 "2007-02-21T21:19:52Z")
Who keeps a sword in their house? ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/15 "2007-02-21T21:20:22Z")
So he interrupted the guy mid-stroke? Ooohh, awkward moment… ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/16 "2007-02-21T21:20:42Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] Geez. What was he supposed to do? Call the cops and wait forever? This should be a no harm, no foul. Perhaps he should repair the door. Edit: Definitely he should repair the door, but the neighbor should thank him for being concerned and getting involved. Too few do so these days. [/QUOTE] Agreed, the courts should be very lenient if the only damage was a door. The man took the chance of stopping a rape. Sound more like a misplaced hero who did little harm and should be applauded for being willing to get involve. He probably should have stopped long enough to call 911 though. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/17 "2007-02-21T21:23:15Z")
[QUOTE=blinkingblinking] Who keeps a sword in their house? [/QUOTE] Actually, lots of people I know do. More of my friends have swords in their homes then have guns. Personally, I’ve got my eye on a rather cool battle axe. Just haven’t quite justified it yet. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/18 "2007-02-21T21:27:00Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] He probably should have stopped long enough to call 911 though. [/QUOTE] In an article in the [Saint Paul Pioneer Press](http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/16749076.htm)(registration possibly required, that’s why I didn’t link it) it says he doesn’t have a phone. > [@](#): > > Van Iveren said that he does not have a telephone, so he could not call police when he heard the calls for help ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/19 "2007-02-21T21:29:53Z")
[QUOTE=NurseCarmen] In an article in the [Saint Paul Pioneer Press](http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/16749076.htm)(registration possibly required, that’s why I didn’t link it) it says he doesn’t have a phone. [/QUOTE] Oops. Thanks for clearing that up. It would be very good in this case if he got off for the cost of fixing the door. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/20 "2007-02-21T21:31:32Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] Geez. What was he supposed to do? Call the cops and wait forever? This should be a no harm, no foul. Perhaps he should repair the door. Edit: Definitely he should repair the door, but the neighbor should thank him for being concerned and getting involved. Too few do so these days. [/QUOTE] I’m with you…kinda, the sword may have been a little much. I have to assume he was watching some sort of ‘rape’ porn. I mean really, does this guy go busting into everyones apartment when he hears people having sex, or was there some odd yelling/screaming going on in the porn. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127.md?page=2)