# RAPE!  RAPE!!  (nope.  pron.  pron.)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [February 21, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127 "2007-02-21T20:15:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/81 "2007-02-23T03:15:27Z")

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Most of rape survivors I’ve known who read/write rape porn say that they do it as a means of taking back control. In a fantasy, a person can control where the action begins, how far it goes, what it entails, when it ends, etc. It’s a way of taking a situation that was completely out of control and gaining power over it.

I did meet one sexual abuse survivor who liked rape porn in a way that skeeved me out but she had no memory of her abuse and I wondered if it was a way to gain control of something she forbid from reaching her consciousness.

There are different types of rape porn depending on the writer, the intended audience, and the the reaction the event is supposed to evoke (I could do a whole thesis on this). Rape fantasies are actually quite common and in no way relate to if an individual will rape or wishes to be raped. Similarly, individuals who play out rape fantasies in real life find no eroticism in real rape (with a few notable exceptions). Something that I’ve always been interested in is the female eroticism of fantasies of male/male rape which can be found in many cultures.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/82 "2007-02-23T04:31:43Z")

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[QUOTE=MsRobyn]

And Mr. Van Iveren maybe ought to look into irises for his eyes. He looks like Satan.

Robin  
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Me too, and I sure wouldn’t want to meet him in a dark alley, sword or no sword.

And another quote from the article:

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> Van Iveren told a reporter Tuesday that he distinctly heard a woman screaming while he was listening to music in his first floor apartment on the morning of Feb. 11.

Mr. Iveren should stop listening to Yoko Ono records. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/83 "2007-02-23T05:06:06Z")

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> **Gorsnak** wrote:  
> So did anyone besides me read the thread title and imagine the muppet martians on Sesame Street:

I may be misremembering, but wasn’t there a porno made with an entirely puppet cast? I think I saw a SFW clip during the early days of _The Daily Show_.

I swear, that’s where I saw it.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/84 "2007-02-23T13:49:19Z")

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> “It’s all in Spanish, and I don’t understand a word of it,” he said. “I only bought it for the hot chicks.”

'Ello! My name is Inigo Montoya! You raped my … oh.

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**Author:** ![badbadrubberpiggy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/57b2e6/32.png) [@badbadrubberpiggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badbadrubberpiggy)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/85 "2007-02-23T15:09:27Z")

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[QUOTE=nongoog]  
I sort of admire the kind of person who leaps to defend an endangered stranger without even thinking it through- like the man who jumped into the subway tracks in front of an oncoming train and pinned the college student between the rails so he wouldn’t get hit by it. The man should be completely exonerated.

IMHO, if you’re going to blare violent pornography, you need to be prepared for neighbors (ESPECIALLY in thin-walled apartment buildings) to get the wrong idea. Next time, get a pair of those wireless headphoney thingers.  
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1. he wasn’t blaring violent pornography - he was watching a normal porno, which by all accounts would have just sounded like 2 people having consentual sex

2. he didn’t break into the apt. until about 9 HOURS after he heard the porno

Some hero.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/86 "2007-02-23T15:24:21Z")

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I don’t buy that he only watched it the night before. Hasn’t anyone ever heard of morning wood?

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/87 "2007-02-23T15:54:11Z")

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One cutlass of poor quality, but sufficient for hacking wood with. A hatchet, also good for hacking wood with. One bayonet bought mostly because it was cheap and… well, dude, bayonet. Two harpoons. (“Dude. Harpoons. Five bucks.” “Duuuude.” The ride home was spent waving one outside the car and being piratey.) A number of knives of survival size or smaller.  
Oh. One spear, african, iron.  
It is a measure of debate as to the most intimidating thing in the house is. The crowbar is currently the winner.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/88 "2007-02-23T16:24:09Z")

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[What happens when an AP story crosses the desk of a prudish editor.](http://www.ktvotv3.com/Global/story.asp?S=6127097&nav=1LFs)

“Spirit of the Heartland” _is_ their motto, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/89 "2007-02-23T16:26:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Pixiesnix]  
I may be misremembering, but wasn’t there a porno made with an entirely puppet cast? I think I saw a SFW clip during the early days of _The Daily Show_.

I swear, that’s where I saw it.  
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You may be thinking of Meet the Feebles. It is an early Peter Jackson film. You will laugh really hard and you will go to hell for watching this movie.

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**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/90 "2007-02-23T16:35:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Pixiesnix]  
I may be misremembering, but wasn’t there a porno made with an entirely puppet cast? I think I saw a SFW clip during the early days of _The Daily Show_.

I swear, that’s where I saw it.  
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I recall seeing such a _The Daily Show_ episode as well. funny stuff.

If someone burst into my house with a cavalry sword he would me with a much, much larger sword within arms reach.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-rape-nope-pron-pron/393127/91 "2007-02-23T16:35:49Z")

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[QUOTE=kimera]

I did meet one sexual abuse survivor who liked rape porn in a way that skeeved me out but she had no memory of her abuse and I wondered if it was a way to gain control of something she forbid from reaching her consciousness.

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I’m confused. How can she be a sexual abuse survivor if she doesn’t remember her abuse? Who declared her a survivor?

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