# "Rape" sex?! What the hell is wrong with you people?! (Fucked up!)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 6, 2002, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624 "2002-05-06T21:34:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![cornflakes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@cornflakes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cornflakes)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/61 "2002-05-07T17:16:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Space Vampire \*  
> \*\*How any of you can say one word in defense of this is beyond me. \*\*

Easy, nobody is gagged at the moment. 😉

Except for Mom, every woman in my direct family has been raped. I feel confident that at most one of these women would have a problem with a consenting couple getting off on a rape scene or would have an issue with rape porn vs. any other type of porn.

**jarbabyj** has it right. It _is_ about runaway sexual desire, and if that’s ok, then it’s ok. Ok?

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> _Originally posted by Lizard_  
> **Obviously, having pictures of a rape wouldn’t send you to jail for the crime. It’d just make you a sick fuck.**

I’m not that big on porn of any type, but can I _use_ that, sorta like a professional title?

What the hell…

**cornflakes, S.F.**

p.s., **Sofa King** , there’s _waaayyy_ too much reality in that post!

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/62 "2002-05-07T17:33:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*hi everyone,
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> Married, college educated, 29 year old woman who HAS BEEN ACTUALLY RAPED checking in to express her love of rape fantasy and in fact seeing pictures of simulated rape.
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> just my two cents. If that makes me a raging pervert…so be it.  
> J \*\*

Thank god, I was gonna come kick your ass if you didn’t get in here in the next 12 hours.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/63 "2002-05-07T17:34:58Z")

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promise?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/64 "2002-05-07T17:49:43Z")

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I disagree with **Lizard** , but I can see what bugs him, I think.

No, I don’t believe that anyone should go to jail for making rape porn that isn’t actually rape.  
No, I don’t believe that any of the stuff you find on commercial web sites is actually rape, for the reasons spelled out clearly by a number of posters.

But what little I’ve seen of the ‘rape porn’ genre seems to have little in common with the bodice-ripper rape fantasy, and more in common with _simulating_ the brutalized, scared-shitless feel of an actual rape. For instance, one of the photos I saw had the woman made up so that she looked like she was bleeding all over herself from being slugged in the mouth.

When I say “I’m not sure I’d feel comfortable around anyone who wanted to watch such portrayals,” this is the sort of thing I’m talking about. I doubt that having a few teeth loosened by a fist to the face is part of many women’s rape fantasies, and I certainly wouldn’t want it to be part of my own.

I don’t want to outlaw the images, anymore than I _could_ outlaw the fantasies. People can do what they want, as long as nobody’s harmed by it. But I’m perfectly comfortable with saying **I** find fantasies and images this extreme to be repulsive, and the idea that someone likes them creeps me out.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/65 "2002-05-07T18:21:39Z")

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But because YOU are uncomfortable with that simulation doesn’t mean that WE are sick fucks. And actually, one of the REQUIREMENTS of my rape fantasies is being hit in the face.

j

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/66 "2002-05-07T18:27:00Z")

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Exactly, RTF. From what I am gathering, there are two different directions these “fantasies” can go - the “Oh no, you evil pirate, don’t you _ravish_ me!” and then the vile, painful depictions you describe above. One is pretty standard, the other is pretty creepy (IMO).

I too would get the heebie-geebies from something that was depicted as painful, scary, bloody - yikes. Creepy. Major creepy. But “bodice rippers”? Maybe a bit silly to some, but pretty standard stuff. Did you ever see the silent film “The Shiek” with Rudolph Valentino? I believe it had the same sort of bodice ripper “theme” in it. (It’s been a while since I’ve seen the film.) And it had women from almost 100 years ago (OK, so maybe 80-90 years ago) swooning.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/67 "2002-05-07T18:36:12Z")

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jarbaby: OK, but bloody face? Loose teeth? Is that creepy, or just part of a fantasy? I have no clue here. But it doesn’t sound too fun to me.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/68 "2002-05-07T18:41:07Z")

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not bloody face or loose teeth, but being soundly bitchslapped, made to cry, humiliated, possibly threatened with a knife, tied up, gagged, blindfolded, treated like an animal? I’m all for any of that.

And interestingly, aside from the crying, none of that happened when I was REALLY raped.

J

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**Author:** ![Space\_Vampire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Space\_Vampire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Space_Vampire)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/69 "2002-05-07T18:53:47Z")

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I have absolutely no problem declaring that most of you have problems that you should seek treatment for.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/70 "2002-05-07T18:59:10Z")

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Wow. How bold.

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/71 "2002-05-07T19:03:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Space Vampire \*  
> \*\*I have absolutely no problem declaring that most of you have problems that you should seek treatment for. \*\*

Well, fuck, that’s NEWS?

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**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/72 "2002-05-07T19:04:46Z")

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P.S. Space Vampire, you might want to consider therapy as a lucrative field for yourself. I ran across a study of college women who found that 57% of them have rape fantasies. By god, you’d have patients coming out of your ears!

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**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/73 "2002-05-07T19:06:32Z")

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I have absolutely no problem declaring that you are a stupid ass-fuck who should be beaten soundly about the head and neck until some sense gets knocked into that fucking empty head of yours.

How do you like THEM apples?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/74 "2002-05-07T19:10:12Z")

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> I have absolutely no problem declaring that most of you have problems that you should seek treatment for.

Except for your utter lack of psychiatric credentials and your patently adolescent understanding of human sexuality. But other than that, absolutely no problem at all.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/75 "2002-05-07T19:45:34Z")

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> By god, you’d have patients coming out of your ears!

Well, that’s OK. It’s the patients coming **in** your ears you gotta watch out for.

Rade fantasies? Yeah, I got my prison domination fantasies, along the lines of being forced to service Keller and Schillinger in _Oz_. It’s a fantasy, as in not real.

Sheesh, some people need a nurse to watch out for 'em out in the big, bad, world.

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**Author:** ![racinchikki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@racinchikki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racinchikki)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/76 "2002-05-07T19:48:49Z")

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I’m afraid I forgot the words [beaten about the head] **with the Clue Stick** in my last post.

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/77 "2002-05-07T19:51:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by racinchikki \*  
> I have absolutely no problem declaring that you are a stupid ass-fuck who should be beaten soundly about the head and neck until some sense gets knocked into that fucking empty head of yours.

Is it a problem if that imagery turned me on?

Someone get sunb in here and then smack him around.

Rowr.

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**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/78 "2002-05-07T20:00:01Z")

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> _originally posted by gobear_  
> Rade fantasies?

You mean **Raid** fantasies?

"Dirty bugs…naughty bugs…c’mere…

…DIE DIE DIE!!"

oh…yeah…I am _So_ there…

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**Author:** ![blanx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f04885/32.png) [@blanx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blanx)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/79 "2002-05-07T20:01:45Z")

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whip me, beat me, teach me love…

or

brand me, rope me, ride me home…

Important notice- **fantasy** does not equal **reality**.

Please to familiarize self with both, **Space Vampire**

For many women, it’s about release, and being the means by which a generally loving, caring partner is driven to excess by arousal.

But then, IANAWoman, so what do I know.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2002, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-sex-what-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-fucked-up/107624/80 "2002-05-07T20:05:43Z")

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I’d like to watch gobear and schillinger in Oz, just for the record.

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