# Rape story selling on ebay \[NSFW\] **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 14, 2005, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260 "2005-04-14T10:09:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![huk24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f0a364/32.png) [@huk24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/huk24)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/1 "2005-04-14T10:09:06Z")
[Link](http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1469&item=5573160803&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW) While I don’t believe the whole thing, because no 6 year old goes for a jog in the park, it’s still a huge WTF factor. The whole idea just rubs me completely the wrong way. > [@](#): > > About > Kelly is my 16-year-old cousin who has a traumatic past. At age 6, she was grabbed by a masked man while she was jogging in a park. The man threatened to kill her with a knife and brutally raped her. She screamed but nobody seemed to have heard her. > > Since that time, Kellyh has developed nightmares about being raped or killed. In most days, she has suffered from flashbacks of her being attacked. Each time she watches TV shows that remind her of the incident, she becomes frightened, and her mind places her back into this scenario, causing her to throw tantrums and scream bloody murder. At times, she develops anxiety attacks, palpitations, sweating, and insomnia. Since the attack, Kellyh can hardly trust people. As a result, her relationships have profoundly suffered. More recently, she’s been depressed and feeling hopeless. She hasn’t been sleeping or eating well. Her inattention has negatively impacted her work. > > Kelly is most likely suffering from Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). PTSD is a psychiatric disorder characterized by avoidance, hypervigilance, emotional difficulties, and recall behavior such as flashbacks and nightmares after a traumatic event such as rape, war, vehicular accident, or natural disasters. Recent researches have shown that after a trauma, biochemical changes develop in the brain that can result in psychological signs as shown above. If untreated, some individuals develop emotional difficulties such as depression associated with inability to concentrate, sleep, and eat. Occasionally, they also become hopeless to the point that they want to die. > > Kelly has been undergoing therapy for PTSD since age 7, and she is finally on the last stages. Her therapist has developed a plan on how to fully cure Kelly, or so we hope, and inevitably, we need your help. We do not have enough money for all of the bills, every family member is pitching in all possible funds. Currently, we are several thousand short of full payment. > How can you help? > “By writing out her story, Kelly is releasing her nightmares. Also, sharing the story aloud can help Kelly by strengthening her emotional and mental stability; however, the audience must not include family members, because this memory needs to be wiped from the family as much as possible. (Dr. Winslow, Kelly’s Therapist).” We’ve tried bringing friends into the household, but Kelly refuses to read the story aloud. This is where you come into play. Purchasing her story will prove to Kelly that honest people are still alive, and people still care about her life. You will be the first to read her story, but certainly not the last. We are NOT trying to profit from her tradgey, all funds won will go twards helping her fully recover and towards all the hospital bills. Upon winning, her story will be emailed to you, and we will followup with her condition and progress overtime. > > Thank you for your support! ^ I added that in because I have reported them to Ebay, and SafeHarbour and expect that account to be byebye very soon. ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/2 "2005-04-14T10:25:52Z")
While I understand your distaste, it looks to me like nothing more than a fairly involved pitch for a bit of rough erotica. Like it or not, there is a market for such things. ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/3 "2005-04-14T12:03:12Z")
I’d think of it as rough erotica if the protagonist was of age. As it is, it’s rough kiddie porn erotica. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/4 "2005-04-14T12:05:25Z")
I’m skeeved out by the fact that someone is selling a story about the rape of a six year old, as told by the person who was raped and still suffers. This isn’t the “grooming” and eventual “seduction” technique that many pedophiles employ, it was outright violent “I’m in control” rape. Just what kind of person would buy a story about a child _rape_? What kind of person would sell such a story for that matter? That’s beyond “a little kink”, beyond “just a fetish”, and straight into…mental illness. ---
**Author:** ![mittu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@mittu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mittu)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/5 "2005-04-14T12:23:51Z")
The accompanying picture seems to support the idea that this is being sold as a form of erotica with the girl appearing to have her hands tied behind her back and shirt torn or at least pulled down to look “distressed”. Doesn’t eBay have a “Report this item to a moderator” function? ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/6 "2005-04-14T12:27:46Z")
Isn’t there a place on the US government site where you can report kiddie porn? Or would e-bay do that? I know if you are signed up with e-bay you can report a bad auction. I’m not though. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/7 "2005-04-14T12:39:17Z")
Read, guys. > [@huk24](#): > > ^ I added that in because I have reported them to Ebay, and SafeHarbour and expect that account to be byebye very soon. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/8 "2005-04-14T12:44:29Z")
Aye, but often more voices raised in a clamor gets things expedited. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MidnightRadio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MidnightRadio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MidnightRadio)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/9 "2005-04-14T12:44:51Z")
Well, I’m not sure that there’s anything there that the government would be concerned about, **Zabali\_Clawbane**. I mean, yeah, it’s sick, but it’s not illegal. I’d imagine, though, that eBay wouldn’t want that kind of thing being sold on its site, but maybe I’m wrong. ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/10 "2005-04-14T12:59:12Z")
> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#): > > Isn’t there a place on the US government site where you can report **kiddie porn**? Wha? It’s a story people. It’s words on a page, and no real children of any kind were involved. You insult every child who has been raped on film by comparing their experience to someone’s written fantasy. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/11 "2005-04-14T13:05:33Z")
But if the story isn’t true, if it’s actually rough erotica, isn’t it insulting to real rape victims for it to be presented this way? ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/12 "2005-04-14T13:12:07Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > But if the story isn’t true, if it’s actually rough erotica, isn’t it insulting to real rape victims for it to be presented this way? Every rape-centered piece of erotica I’ve ever read has presented it as a “true story”, and I don’t see the difference here. So no, I wasn’t offended. Judging from the other responses here, however, I’m apparently in the minority. I can live with that. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/13 "2005-04-14T13:12:43Z")
As of quarter past 9:00 Eastern time the item’s still posted. You’ll find it illuminating to click on the link for the seller’s other items. Just what, exactly, IS a tongue ring? Or shuld I not ask? ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/14 "2005-04-14T13:13:09Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > But if the story isn’t true, if it’s actually rough erotica, isn’t it insulting to real rape victims for it to be presented this way? No. And you may be in the minority, but you’re not alone, **belladonna**. > [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#): > > Isn’t there a place on the US government site where you can report kiddie porn? Report kiddie porn to the FBI. Report distasteful auctions to eBay. They have a right not to sell things that are legal to sell. The model looks around 23 to me, so as others have said, this is not kiddie porn. There’s nothing illegal or harmful going on. Still, I’m sure the pitting will continue its avalanche of distaste against badly-spelled erotica. Thank god for the Watchers. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/15 "2005-04-14T13:15:13Z")
I’m veiwing it as “kiddie porn”, especially since it’s also allegedly written by a 16 year old, and has an erotic picture presumably of said 16 year old. If it is seen as “kiddie porn” than the seller is commiting a crime, and one that people are encouraged to report to the government, especially kiddie porn on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/16 "2005-04-14T13:18:28Z")
> [@Zabali\_Clawbane](#): > > If it is seen as “kiddie porn” than the seller is commiting a crime… Considering the number of “luscious lolita” and “saucy schoolgirl” videos, stories, photos, and websites scattered across the world, I have a very hard time believing that this is true. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/17 "2005-04-14T13:18:48Z")
> [@belladonna](#): > > Every rape-centered piece of erotica I’ve ever read has presented it as a “true story”, and I don’t see the difference here. So no, I wasn’t offended. Okay; just asking. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/18 "2005-04-14T13:24:20Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Just what, exactly, IS a tongue ring? Or shuld I not ask? [Tongue ring](http://www.tongue-ring.com/). You’ve probably seen them, they are pretty common now. One even appears in this [album coverart](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000296JD/ref=m_art_li_1/102-1162945-8234547?v=glance&s=music). FTR, the picture looks like the 16 year olds around here look to me. Also, even if it’s “made up” it’s still pandering to people who are fantasizing that it’s real, that is what skeeves me out, the target consumer of this more than anything. I’m not “offended” so much as creeped out. I’d not be so much so, if the person who was raped in the “true story” wasn’t six years old, but instead 18 or older. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/19 "2005-04-14T13:32:54Z")
Besides, the US Supreme Court struck down the “appearing or claiming to be a minor” provisions of the Internet CP laws a couple of years back: if there’s no _real_ child, there is no CP (though the product can still cross the line into “obscene”, or at the very least in violation of the TOS). ---
**Author:** ![Gamaliel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b487fb/32.png) [@Gamaliel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gamaliel)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2005, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260/20 "2005-04-14T16:30:40Z")
Report it to the FBI? Are you people serious? :rolleyes: Free speech means people are going to say and write and sell things you find distasteful. Get over it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-story-selling-on-ebay-nsfw/299260.md?page=2)