# Rape victim gets 200 lashes - (RO) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 16, 2007, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641 "2007-11-16T03:27:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/1 "2007-11-16T03:27:39Z")
[Link.](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311848,00.html) I don’t care what “justification” they offer. Any group that condones this kind of thing should be wiped from the face of the earth. The world would be better off if Saudi Arabia’s judges and Islamic law advocates were fed into a wood chipper, feet first. Yes, I know there are moderate Muslims in the world. These people aren’t helping their position. ---
**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/2 "2007-11-16T03:35:44Z")
From the article: > [@](#): > > A 19-year-old female victim of gang rape who initially was ordered to undergo 90 lashes for “being in the car of an unrelated male at the time of the rape,” has been sentenced to **200 lashes and six months in jail for telling her story to the news media.** Quite literally, beatings will continue until morale improves. This travesty simply proves (if further proof be needed, which it really, genuinely isn’t) that Sharia law is a barbaric, backward, savage, gynophobic abomination; a sanctified hallmark of a stunted culture, and an abasement and perversion of human rights. Fuck anyone who even speculates about the possibility that this is in any way just. ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/3 "2007-11-16T03:43:53Z")
I handed in a report yesterday on the stoning of (alleged) adulterers in Iran. It’s hard to write a paper when you’re alternating between crying and wanting to punch something. Part of my research project involved making a suggestion for policy to curb this sort of thing. WTF - _policy_? The professor asked me in the middle of class what I thought should be done. The only thing I could think of was “Revolution.” ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/4 "2007-11-16T03:48:25Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] [Link.](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311848,00.html) I don’t care what “justification” they offer. Any group that condones this kind of thing should be wiped from the face of the earth. The world would be better off if Saudi Arabia’s judges and Islamic law advocates were fed into a wood chipper, feet first. Yes, I know there are moderate Muslims in the world. These people aren’t helping their position. [/QUOTE] Nice to have as an ally huh? There is no justification for this shit. I once thought the world was growing up and maturing, but it actually seems to be going backwards. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/5 "2007-11-16T05:07:57Z")
[QUOTE=Queen Bruin] I handed in a report yesterday on the stoning of (alleged) adulterers in Iran. It’s hard to write a paper when you’re alternating between crying and wanting to punch something. Part of my research project involved making a suggestion for policy to curb this sort of thing. WTF - _policy_? The professor asked me in the middle of class what I thought should be done. The only thing I could think of was “Revolution.” [/QUOTE] Do you happen to know, off the top of your head, what the punishment for rapists is supposed to be? If rape VICTIMS get whipped, I’m thinking that rapists should be executed. After getting five times the lashes that the victim got. ---
**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/6 "2007-11-16T05:12:48Z")
[QUOTE=Lynn Bodoni] Do you happen to know, off the top of your head, what the punishment for rapists is supposed to be? If rape VICTIMS get whipped, I’m thinking that rapists should be executed. After getting five times the lashes that the victim got. [/QUOTE] From my understanding, you can only be prosecuted for rape under sharia law if there is a male witness. (it might be two) Needless to say, there are very few convicted rapists in that area. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/7 "2007-11-16T05:21:48Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] From my understanding, you can only be prosecuted for rape under sharia law if there is a male witness. (it might be two) [/QUOTE] Four witnesses IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/8 "2007-11-16T05:22:08Z")
[QUOTE=Lynn Bodoni] Do you happen to know, off the top of your head, what the punishment for rapists is supposed to be? If rape VICTIMS get whipped, I’m thinking that rapists should be executed. After getting five times the lashes that the victim got. [/QUOTE] From what I have read, the crime must be witnessed by four males under Sharia law, otherwise it’s considered unprovable, and the complaining female is then charged with adultery, because she could not substantiate the rape charge, the punishment for that being stoning. ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/9 "2007-11-16T05:57:20Z")
[QUOTE=Lynn Bodoni] Do you happen to know, off the top of your head, what the punishment for rapists is supposed to be? If rape VICTIMS get whipped, I’m thinking that rapists should be executed. After getting five times the lashes that the victim got. [/QUOTE] Punishment for rape is, indeed, execution. And yes, either four “just men” must be witnesses or two just women and three just men. Whatever just means under _sharia_. [QUOTE=danceswithcats] From what I have read, the crime must be witnessed by four males under Sharia law, otherwise it’s considered unprovable, and the complaining female is then charged with adultery, because she could not substantiate the rape charge, the punishment for that being stoning. [/QUOTE] The real kicker is that pregnancy out of marriage is often considered evidence of being unchaste rather than any indication of having been raped. With predictable outcome. ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/10 "2007-11-16T06:01:52Z")
[extreme sarcasm]Well, I think we should withhold judgment on this until all the facts are in.[/extreme sarcasm] :rolleyes: But seriously folks - just when I thought Islamic law couldn’t get any more abominable, a story such as this surfaces. The rape victim is going to get 200 lashes for reporting this to the media? (As opposed to the “fair” sentence of her receiving a mere 90 lashes for “being in the car of an unrelated male at the time of the rape”?) That is one fucked up country / culture / religion !! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/11 "2007-11-16T06:11:14Z")
[QUOTE=danceswithcats] From what I have read, the crime must be witnessed by four males under Sharia law, otherwise it’s considered unprovable, and the complaining female is then charged with adultery, because she could not substantiate the rape charge, the punishment for that being stoning. [/QUOTE] Looking for coherent logic here is a fool’s errand, but… if the female can be charged with adultery, then shouldn’t the male at least be chargeable with adultery as well? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/12 "2007-11-16T06:12:12Z")
I’m hoping from controlled fusion replacing oil in part so they can be as financially bankrupt as they are morally. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/13 "2007-11-16T06:35:32Z")
Hoping FOR it would be nice, too, along with a board not prone to timeouts, or with a longer edit window. And I’d like a pony. ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/14 "2007-11-16T06:40:16Z")
I’m afraid I have nothing of substance to add to the OP’s complaint. Hit the nail on the head. Am I correct to believe that more than about 100 lashes is usually a fatal punishment? So, a near death experience for being with a man she wasn’t related to, but a particularly gruesome death for contempt of court. Wheee… ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/15 "2007-11-16T06:42:51Z")
[QUOTE=George Kaplin] This travesty simply proves (if further proof be needed, which it really, genuinely isn’t) that Sharia law is a barbaric, backward, savage, gynophobic abomination; a sanctified hallmark of a stunted culture, and an abasement and perversion of human rights. Fuck anyone who even speculates about the possibility that this is in any way just. [/QUOTE] [Further proof](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=acc088f402) (NSF humanity). ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/16 "2007-11-16T06:53:24Z")
[QUOTE=Weirddave] [Further proof](http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=acc088f402) (NSF humanity). [/QUOTE] The real stuff is barbaric enough without [making up extra junk.](http://www.snopes.com/photos/gruesome/crushboy.asp) ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/17 "2007-11-16T06:59:29Z")
Those speculating about what, if any, punishment the rapists got, might want to read the linked article: > [@](#): > > The court last year sentenced the six heavily-armed men who carried out the attack against the Shiite woman to between one and five years for committing the crime. > > But the judges had decided to punish the woman further for “her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media,” a court source told the Arab News. > > The new verdict issued on Wednesday also toughened the sentences against the six men to between two and nine years in prison. I’m not sure how the woman speaking out and getting punished for it served to lengthen the sentences of the perpetrators, but that’s pretty much the least baffling thing about news stories like this. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/18 "2007-11-16T07:02:16Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] The real stuff is barbaric enough without [making up extra junk.](http://www.snopes.com/photos/gruesome/crushboy.asp) [/QUOTE] Nice catch, thanks for setting me straight. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/19 "2007-11-16T13:07:26Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Hoping FOR it would be nice, too, along with a board not prone to timeouts, or with a longer edit window. And I’d like a pony. [/QUOTE] Of your four hopes, the pony seems the likeliest. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2007, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641/20 "2007-11-16T13:22:15Z")
This isn’t recreational outrage, because unlike most instances reported here, there is something we can do about it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-gets-200-lashes-ro/426641.md?page=2)