# Rape victim jailed for contempt of court

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-jailed-for-contempt-of-court/588994>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 14, 2011, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-jailed-for-contempt-of-court/588994 "2011-07-14T09:28:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-jailed-for-contempt-of-court/588994/41 "2011-07-17T04:06:09Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> The lawyer asks her accusing questions and she breaks down like on a Perry Mason TV show and says, “Yes, I wanted him to fuck me! I wanted to be beaten with a 2 X 4!” ?

Can you not imagine a reasonable scenario in which the woman could have been beaten with a 2x4, but not raped?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-jailed-for-contempt-of-court/588994/42 "2011-07-17T04:11:37Z")

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Or raped by a 2x4, but not beaten with it.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-jailed-for-contempt-of-court/588994/43 "2011-07-17T04:20:34Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Then he would be found innocent, aside from the 2 X 4 thing. 🙂

Not if he’s denied the opportunity to argue that she wanted it.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-jailed-for-contempt-of-court/588994/44 "2011-07-17T08:06:21Z")

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What the victim said was “Get to the point bitch” which sounds to me like the defense council wasn’t even asking a question.

I would like to see a transcript that included the questioning not just the victims response.  
And if was getting bad, shouldn’t the prosecutor have objected at some point?

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-jailed-for-contempt-of-court/588994/45 "2011-07-17T08:07:56Z")

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What the victim said was “Get to the point bitch” which sounds to me like the defense council wasn’t even asking a question.

I would like to see a transcript that included the questioning not just the victims response.  
And if was getting bad, shouldn’t the prosecutor have objected at some point?  
I’m glad the victim returned to court and did not just dope the charges. I really don’t see her getting justice in that court room.

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**Author:** ![1010011010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ea666f/32.png) [@1010011010](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1010011010)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-jailed-for-contempt-of-court/588994/46 "2011-07-17T08:24:16Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> So you have to be intentionally trying to cause trauma to a rape victim for this crap to happen.

Your defense theory is that the person on the stand is a liar who would accuse your client of rape, a crime that can carry the death penalty, rather than face the minor embarrassment to admit that the sex was consensual. Treating them with a certain level of sneering disgust for the way in which they’re abusing the courts and trying to ruin the life of an innocent person fits the narrative.

Short version: What rape victim?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-jailed-for-contempt-of-court/588994/47 "2011-07-17T12:42:04Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Can you not imagine a reasonable scenario in which the woman could have been beaten with a 2x4, but not raped?

Are you saying it makes a woman sexually aroused to be beaten with a club?

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-jailed-for-contempt-of-court/588994/48 "2011-07-17T14:27:34Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Are you saying it makes a woman sexually aroused to be beaten with a club?

No.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-jailed-for-contempt-of-court/588994/49 "2011-07-17T15:02:14Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Are you saying it makes a woman sexually aroused to be beaten with a club?

It’s not clear that the defense theory was consensual sex. It probably wasn’t.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rape-victim-jailed-for-contempt-of-court/588994/50 "2011-07-17T18:33:17Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Can you not imagine a reasonable scenario in which the woman could have been beaten with a 2x4, but not raped?

Easy. The woman had consentual sex with a man or more than one man and then regrets it. There could be a lot of reasons ranging from cultural background to she’s mad the men considered the sex only sex and not the start of a relationship. She self-inflicts the beating or has a friend do it. Or perhaps the sex was consentual, but cheating and she was beaten up by the person who thought she cheated on them.

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