# Raped woman sentenced to 90 lashes. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 6, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837 "2007-03-06T18:54:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/1 "2007-03-06T18:54:37Z")
[Link](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,256980,00.html). So long as Islamic law says such things, consider me to be a sworn enemy of Islam. Words cannot describe the feelings such… **barbarism** engenders in me. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/2 "2007-03-06T18:59:04Z")
And it was _Iraq_ we kicked the shit out of? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/3 "2007-03-06T19:01:05Z")
Just curious, but if it came out that the Catholic Church was still covering for pedophiles in its ranks, would you become the sworn enemy of all Christiandom? ---
**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/4 "2007-03-06T19:06:49Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] Just curious, but if it came out that the Catholic Church was still covering for pedophiles in its ranks, would you become the sworn enemy of all Christiandom? [/QUOTE] Why yes, yes I am. ---
**Author:** ![lowbrass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dc4da7/32.png) [@lowbrass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lowbrass)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/5 "2007-03-06T19:08:18Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] Just curious, but if it came out that the Catholic Church was still covering for pedophiles in its ranks, would you become the sworn enemy of all Christiandom? [/QUOTE] What do you mean _if_ it came out? ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/6 "2007-03-06T19:13:52Z")
[QUOTE=lowbrass] What do you mean _if_ it came out? [/QUOTE] Ditto on that. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/7 "2007-03-06T19:14:49Z")
> [@](#): > > Lashes are usually spread over several days. About 50 lashes are given at a time. I’m no mathematician or anything, but how many days does it take to get to 90 at 50/day? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/8 "2007-03-06T19:19:46Z")
[QUOTE=brewha] I’m no mathematician or anything, but how many days does it take to get to 90 at 50/day? [/QUOTE] 1.8 days. I think that’s a comment on lashings in general and not on this specific case which is why the wording might sound a little strange. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/9 "2007-03-06T19:25:53Z")
_Still_ covering, people. _Still_ covering. It’s been a long time since I’ve heard any new stories about abuse being covered up, and I was trying to avoid anyone saying, “Well, they don’t do it any more, so that’s different.” ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/10 "2007-03-06T19:35:03Z")
Good to know that Saudi Arabia is one of our allies in the fight against extremism. ---
**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/11 "2007-03-06T19:44:55Z")
Honestly, when I hear stuff like this, I feel like those people over there aren’t even human. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/12 "2007-03-06T19:54:34Z")
Interesting that the story has been lifted practically verbatim from the original article in [The Scotsman](http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=348792007), except “Islamic law” or “Islamic-based law” has been added in a couple of places. Strange that Fox saw the need to emphasize the provenance of the outrageous verdict. I doubt any other legal systems in Saudi Arabia would have been as viciously unpleasant. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/13 "2007-03-06T19:59:24Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] _Still_ covering, people. _Still_ covering. It’s been a long time since I’ve heard any new stories about abuse being covered up, and I was trying to avoid anyone saying, “Well, they don’t do it any more, so that’s different.” [/QUOTE] Well, they wouldn’t be covering very well if you did, now would they? The difference, as far as I can see, is that the Catholic Church’s position on priests having sxe with altar boys is that it’s wrong, and a sin, and that helping them to do so is also a sin. So when the catholics do it, they are failing to live up to the requirements of their faith. The linked story has people who are doing as their faith directs. It is fortunate that most Muslims don’t agree with them. ---
**Author:** ![lowbrass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dc4da7/32.png) [@lowbrass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lowbrass)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/14 "2007-03-06T20:00:37Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] _Still_ covering, people. _Still_ covering. It’s been a long time since I’ve heard any new stories about abuse being covered up, and I was trying to avoid anyone saying, “Well, they don’t do it any more, so that’s different.” [/QUOTE] I hear stories all the time. I don’t know what you consider “a long time”. A week? ---
**Author:** ![lowbrass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dc4da7/32.png) [@lowbrass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lowbrass)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/15 "2007-03-06T20:13:31Z")
[QUOTE=saoirse] Well, they wouldn’t be covering very well if you did, now would they? The difference, as far as I can see, is that the Catholic Church’s position on priests having sxe with altar boys is that it’s wrong, and a sin, and that helping them to do so is also a sin. So when the catholics do it, they are failing to live up to the requirements of their faith. The linked story has people who are doing as their faith directs. It is fortunate that most Muslims don’t agree with them. [/QUOTE] That’s rather a meaningless distinction to make. Extremist nut-jobs can find _some_ tortured reasoning for whatever they do. If they’re being assholes, who cares whether they think their poor behavior is backed up by their holy book? If you need an analagous example that badly, how about Christian fundies who let their children die because they refuse to seek medical attention. They’re “doing as their faith directs”. So does _that_ make **silenus** a sworn enema of Christianity? ---
**Author:** ![lowbrass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dc4da7/32.png) [@lowbrass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lowbrass)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/16 "2007-03-06T20:15:47Z")
[QUOTE=VCO3] Honestly, when I hear stuff like this, I feel like those people over there aren’t even human. [/QUOTE] Yeah, it’s a good thing _our_ government has never treated people cruelly. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/17 "2007-03-06T20:19:54Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] Just curious, but if it came out that the Catholic Church was still covering for pedophiles in its ranks, would you become the sworn enemy of all Christiandom? [/QUOTE] This actually isn’t particularly relevant to the OP. The punishment of rape victims living under Islamic law is happening in accordance with that law, and by their philosophy, in accordance with the principles of that religion. However odious the situation in the Catholic Church, it is _not_ in accordance with any Church law or teaching. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/18 "2007-03-06T20:21:18Z")
Words fail me. The rape victim and the guy she was with both get whipped for being alone in a car together, and the rapists get 10 months to 5 years. It shocks me every time I realize that such barbarism exists in the 21st century, especially in a country like Saudi Arabia that has so many of the trappings of civilization. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/19 "2007-03-06T20:22:41Z")
[QUOTE=lowbrass] That’s rather a meaningless distinction to make. Extremist nut-jobs can find _some_ tortured reasoning for whatever they do. If they’re being assholes, who cares whether they think their poor behavior is backed up by their holy book? If you need an analagous example that badly, how about Christian fundies who let their children die because they refuse to seek medical attention. They’re “doing as their faith directs”. So does _that_ make **silenus** a sworn enema of Christianity? [/QUOTE] The Catholic Church is one faith. Christianity is dozens of faiths, one of which is Catholicism. So that would make him the sworn enemy of whatever faith it was that directed those people to do that. ---
**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837/20 "2007-03-06T20:22:52Z")
[QUOTE=lowbrass] Yeah, it’s a good thing _our_ government has never treated people cruelly. [/QUOTE] Man, but even when our guys do it there’s some sort of twisted monkey-logic at work. When I hear stuff like “11-year-old girl beheaded because her mother was raped by burglars” I just feel like I’m reading about life on mars or something. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/raped-woman-sentenced-to-90-lashes/394837.md?page=2)